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civilengineer92 Sunday, April 03, 2016 05:03 AM

I have a lot of interest in this field and want to opt this subject. I have 2 books with me: Sohail Bhatti's & Imtiaz Shahid's but they are too bad to rely upon. Could anyone mention a good book for this subject. I prefer to read 1 book and revise it for 5 times rather than reading 6 books for a single time so i would request to please mention 1 or at max 2 books ☺

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ursula Sunday, April 03, 2016 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=civilengineer92;925160]I have a lot of interest in this field and want to opt this subject. I have 2 books with me: Sohail Bhatti's & Imtiaz Shahid's but they are too bad to rely upon. Could anyone mention a good book for this subject. I prefer to read 1 book and revise it for 5 times rather than reading 6 books for a single time so i would request to please mention 1 or at max 2 books ☺

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with just one book covering the whole syllabus is [U]almost impossible[/U], as far as my experience is concerned.
Refer to books, me and zainy has already mentioned couple of good sources,you have just needed to explore these pages again.
i hope it will work.

civilengineer92 Sunday, April 03, 2016 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;925232]with just one book covering the whole syllabus is [U]almost impossible[/U], as far as my experience is concerned.
Refer to books, me and zainy has already mentioned couple of good sources,you have just needed to explore these pages again.
i hope it will work.[/QUOTE]
Can't study that much a material for a 100 marks subject because i need to revise at least 3 times before appearing in exams to do justice with my preparation.. can you please mention the best 2 books you found? I would happily take that 😊

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ursula Monday, April 04, 2016 05:51 AM

[QUOTE=civilengineer92;925330]Can't study that much a material for a 100 marks subject because i need to revise at least 3 times before appearing in exams to do justice with my preparation.. can you please mention the best 2 books you found? I would happily take that 😊

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Its been difficult to me, why not ask for others assistance, since there is already a clear cut 4 sectioned demarcation.I am afraid I can't.
Sorry bro!

qublai khan Monday, April 04, 2016 11:34 AM

[QUOTE=civilengineer92;925330]Can't study that much a material for a 100 marks subject because i need to revise at least 3 times before appearing in exams to do justice with my preparation.. can you please mention the best 2 books you found? I would happily take that 😊

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crime theories and typologies by Larry. j siegel.

cover investigation and interrogation part and few topics of fourth part are available on net.

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civilengineer92 Monday, April 04, 2016 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;925352]Its been difficult to me, why not ask for others assistance, since there is already a clear cut 4 sectioned demarcation.I am afraid I can't.
Sorry bro![/QUOTE]
Its all right.. thanks for attempt of assistance anyway.. most of the aspirants don't even reply to a quarry.. :)

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civilengineer92 Monday, April 04, 2016 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=qublai khan;925365]crime theories and typologies by Larry. j siegel.

cover investigation and interrogation part and few topics of fourth part are available on net.

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Thanks bro.. :)

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ursula Monday, April 04, 2016 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=civilengineer92;925434]Its all right.. thanks for attempt of assistance anyway.. most of the aspirants don't even reply to a quarry.. :)

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Well, buddy, in case of assistance or help, feel free to ask me: since I believe that learning is a two way process.:)
Again my goood suggestion to you is read out couple of books and make your own notes, in case of one book one note formula, I am afraid you will have some problems in your paper.

civilengineer92 Monday, April 04, 2016 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;925468]Well, buddy, in case of assistance or help, feel free to ask me: since I believe that learning is a two way process.:)
Again my goood suggestion to you is read out couple of books and make your own notes, in case of one book one note formula, I am afraid you will have some problems in your paper.[/QUOTE]
I am not making any notes.. instead i highlight the main points on books.. making notes is a hectic work and i would prefer to revise one more time rather than making notes.. everyone has his own method :)
May be you are right.. i have read max 2 books for the subjects that i have prepared, mostly 1 book per subject but a quality one. This strategy will be tested in test sessions at the end of this year.. right now i just hope it doesn't backfire..

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Zainab S Tuesday, April 05, 2016 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;924702]I'm on twitter, but unable to exchange because of ma personal matters, and I hope you won't fuss over the issue, dude!:wub:
Conflict perspective basically tilted on the same notion, that otherwise differentiated on the basis of outcome, as radical ideology challenges the bureaucratic and world system of governance as exploitative, conflict don't.
Conflict theory talks about the reformative principles while Marxist is radicalist.I mean system of governance as" dictatorship of working class".
Sorry buddy , this time my wifi connection is getting whimiscal,its my third reply (since first two has been lost foreverly)and I hope it can be uploaded.:evil[/QUOTE]

Oh ok. Twitter just seems more accessible. Sometimes a thought occurs to you or something, easier to rant there than here. Also, this site never loads on mobile network internet so in cases where my DSL is acting up, I can say, hold on, I am alive just net is messed up.

So the whole reason why marxism is not part of conflict theories is that a: it is not reformative and radical in nature and b: it challenges whoever is exploiting the system for their own gains. Right, I guess it makes sense. :) Thanks.

I moved on to the criminal justice system.
I read 4 types of systems: Crime Control model, Due Process model, Just desert and Administrative model.
I also checked police and its role. But I am little confused here. Do I need to make notes on Police history in UK,USA and Pak? Do I need to memorise police ranks and their domains? Right now I studied very short history of police and then I studied it w.r.t criminal procedure. Like how FIR gets registered and how they move from there and all but as I said I am running in all directions and I guess I wasted few days over it.
Could you help bringing any sense to it?

What did you do regarding Islamic perspective of deviance and crime? I got my hand on a book called Islamic perspective on criminology by professor Aulakh. I found it rather sub-standard. It didn't give any new information.

@civilengineer92 I understand your point, I am like you too in studying but it is such a vast field that I am afraid only multiple books will help and this is so time consuming. So I'd suggest stop looking for that one book and get ready to spend hours reading chapters after chapters from different books. It get frustrating real fast.


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