Single Book for both Arabic papers - Page 2

usman khalid · #11 Friday, August 12, 2011

@saba mehmood

You may attempt paper in either Urdu or English (excluding the portion which is required to be attempted in Arabic). Sometimes it is explicitly mentioned on the paper to attempt the paper in Urdu or English. Even if it is not mentioned on the paper, you still have option of attempting the paper in either medium.

Chap X · #12 Friday, August 12, 2011

Thanks usman khalid and Tassawur for your guidance

But please tell me one thing whether Ahmad Hassan's book is in Urdu?

Tassawur · #13 Friday, August 12, 2011

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Originally Posted by usman khalid

@Tassawur

Brother, there are some typo errors in the notes, but it doesn't mean these are not authentic. The notes have been prepared by taking help from different sources and the information contained in the notes is most of the times authentic. If these had been unauthentic, there would have not been high scores in Arabic as you know almost all aspirants prepare arabic from these notes.

yes, I agree with you that these notes are not sufficient. The candidates relying on the notes may score high if paper is of traditional nature. But if paper comes out of pattern, they may suffer as I suffered in CSS 2008 scoring only 115. CSS 2008 was one of the toughest years for arabic and the highest score I found was 126. I changed my strategy for CSS 2010 and didn't rely on notes only but also complemented these notes with their urdu counterparts, the book by Ahmad Hassan Ziat and Internet. e.g. I used Internet for information about modern arabic critics/writers like Taufiqul Hakim, Taha Hussain etc. I scored 153 in CSS 2010 by using these resources.

For short questions, one needs to know a bit arabic grammar so that he/she may understand the question asked in arabic and solve the essay question which is also required to be attempted in arabic.

If one has studied Ahmad Hassan Ziat's book, he/she will face no difficulty in solving the out of trend paper. CSS 2011 paper subjective section may be solved easily if one has gone through this book. Also the book helps in objective portion as well.

For objective, one can never be sure what they are gonna ask. However, most of the times mcqs repeat from previous years paper for which solution has been provided by Hafiz Arshad sb. I have observed that every year 25+ objectives are from past arabic papers barring the year 2008.

The bottomline is that the notes may be trusted but should be accompanied by other resources (book, internet etc) for good score. Portion to be attempted in Arabic needs a bit knowldge of arabic grammar.

As you have scored exceptionally good then there remains no
point disagreeing with you.
My point was that those notes alone are not sufficient.
One needs to have some sort of know-how of Arabic language
and grammar too. Besides these notes need to be complemented
with material from internet and other sources .
but one very acute problem is that internet is not much helpful
in the preparation of period except then modern period.
you have very rightly said that material about modern writers
like Taufiq ul Hakeem , Taha Hussain etc is in detail on internet .
Ahmad Hasan Zyat's book I did not follow just read few
topics and then left that. I should have read that thoroughly.

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Originally Posted by saba mehmood

Thanka a lot .ap logo ki discussion se kafi points clear ho gaye hain. Me
Poetry urdu me prepare keron gi aor answer question wala portion to english me hota h ?,us ko urdu me ker skty hain I mean question paper pe option hoti h is portion ko urdu ya english me prepare kerny ki ya sirf english me.

We are here to help and get help.
Discussion with Usman has proved a egret help to me too.
The tradition which is being followed that is
one is free to attempt Question either of the two English or Urdu.
As nothing is mentioned in the paper that which medium be followed.
However, as English is the medium of css examination ,
it is better and secure to attempt the paper in English.
Last year a rumor was in air that FPSC has taken it into consideration
that students be restricted to attempt the paper in English.
Therefore in order to avoid any bad situation one ought to prepare
and attempt the paper in English barring the translation ,
short questions and the question of short essay.
one ought to be secure , when preparing it in Urdu or English is
almost all the same.

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Originally Posted by Chap X

Thanks usman khalid and Tassawur for your guidance

But please tell me one thing whether Ahmad Hassan's book is in Urdu?

Ahmad Hassan Zyat's book is available in Urdu.

salman habib · #14 Friday, August 12, 2011

Tassawur bro from where i ca get Ahmad hassan Zayt's book,,
one thig more to asked that once you have told us about notes of islamic university,,,,please tell me about that notes that up to what extent they can be helpful

Tassawur · #15 Friday, August 12, 2011

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Originally Posted by salman habib

Tassawur bro from where i ca get Ahmad hassan Zayt's book,,
one thig more to asked that once you have told us about notes of islamic university,,,,please tell me about that notes that up to what extent they can be helpful

Brother Ahmad Hasan Zyat's book is available from urdu Bazar Lahore.
Those notes are helpful . But Hafiz Arshad's notes should be used as primary source .
Because they have been made specifically for css aspirants.

usman khalid · #16 Friday, August 12, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tassawur

We are here to help and get help.
Discussion with Usman has proved a egret help to me too.
The tradition which is being followed that is
one is free to attempt Question either of the two English or Urdu.
As nothing is mentioned in the paper that which medium be followed.
However, as English is the medium of css examination ,
it is better and secure to attempt the paper in English.
Last year a rumor was in air that FPSC has taken it into consideration
that students be restricted to attempt the paper in English.
Therefore in order to avoid any bad situation one ought to prepare
and attempt the paper in English barring the translation ,
short questions and the question of short essay.
one ought to be secure , when preparing it in Urdu or English is
almost all the same.

Rightly said brother! I agree with you.

Silent.Volcano · #17 Saturday, August 13, 2011

@ Tassawur and Usman

Do you guys have any background in arabic?

Moreover, can we attempt the translation in urdu and rest of the paper in english?

Tassawur · #18 Saturday, August 13, 2011

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Originally Posted by Silent.Volcano

@ Tassawur and Usman

Do you guys have any background in arabic?

Moreover, can we attempt the translation in urdu and rest of the paper in english?

Brother ! I don't have any strong background of Arabic.
I did had Arabic in Graduation but that was very very basic and easy
and had nothing at all to do with Arabic language or grammar.

The second thing, yes we can attempt translation questions in Urdu
and the rest of theoretical questions in English.
This is the practice which is being followed by each and every
aspirants taking exam with Arabic as an optional subject.

usman khalid · #19 Saturday, August 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent.Volcano

@ Tassawur and Usman

Do you guys have any background in arabic?

Moreover, can we attempt the translation in urdu and rest of the paper in english?

Dear, I studied Arabic in B.A. It was my optional subject. Therefore, I knew some basic things of Arabic Grammar before opting it for CSS.
Tassawur has already answered the second part of the question!

Yousafzaii · #20 Saturday, August 13, 2011

hello brother ...very authentic discussuiona and very helpful thanks alot.....

my question is, as arabic is one of the difficult language to learn and i have zero background in the language....i need to know that in how much time one could learn understand and write arabic as per paper requirement????....plus those questions which are on arabic poetry and ghazals kya os may shair likhnay hongay ( as we do in pushto or punjabi ) for scoring good marks ya is ki zarorat nahi..????

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