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Pakistan is going through following major social problems:
education ( which includes iletaracy and scattered syllabus)
unemployement
gender disparitiese
poor health facilities
study Pakistan economic review 2008-2009, Pakistan developemental review from website of PIDE ( Pakistan institute of developement economics), also study various reports on social issues from website of SPDI and State Bank also provides various usefull documents in this regard.
it is immportant that u should clear what sort of information u need and do u want to prepare. in this way we can help u in right path.
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If Sociologists are working in Pakistani Society then why the social problems and social crimes are increasing day by day?

Plz tell me your opinnion
Well i think there are several reasons behind this increasing number.
  1. lack of accountability
  2. lack of check and balance
  3. increasing inflation and poverty
  4. lack of education and awareness
  5. if schools are constructed then no proper education system is being folowed
  6. they are short-cuts and easy ways to get material benefits but in real are short term too.
  7. increasing population and increasing unemployment
  8. Financial crisis
  9. increasing moral deprivation
  10. lack of religious institutes and knowledge
  11. no proper punishment system
  12. no Govt initiative and support (policies or anything like in west criminals are given certain skills so that they can earn their living after getting free from the prisions)
  13. no Govt support or funds for the unemployed person like in western countries Govt bears the responsibility to some extenet.
    * health issues are also driving towards crimes

right now i have these in my mind...

suggessions corrections plz...

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not all the isues are social issues aome are political issues some are economic issues. u could not categorize all the issues under one heading of social issues. in the developement studies social isues measured by social indicators. u have to search out from google " social indicators to measure social developement of any country". then u could understand that all the isseus are not social issues
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Default i agree but...

but the question here is why these problems are still prevailing and increasing day by day...
n i think all these; either political or economic issues; contribute in making the rate higher...
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not all the isues are social issues aome are political issues some are economic issues. u could not categorize all the issues under one heading of social issues. in the developement studies social isues measured by social indicators. u have to search out from google " social indicators to measure social developement of any country". then u could understand that all the isseus are not social issues
yes dear.. i know the topic is about e-material... but i was answering to the post

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If Sociologists are working in Pakistani Society then why the social problems and social crimes are increasing day by day?

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Well Mr. Kayni, it is same like if i asked u that Doctors are working in Pakistan, then why peoples are falling ill ?
A Sociologist is a professional who study society systemitically without any bias.Now in a sense we all study society, then why we need sociologists ? Cuz Sociologists' approach is scientific and s/he is not making descions on general assumption but rather based on scientific inquary which we call Social Research.
The policy makers of a country can use the recommendations of the sociologists in making policies that can solve the social problems of a society. And there are several specialized branches of Sociology that deal in their specific area of interest.
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Well Mr. Kayni, it is same like if i asked u that Doctors are working in Pakistan, then why peoples are falling ill ?
A Sociologist is a professional who study society systemitically without any bias.Now in a sense we all study society, then why we need sociologists ? Cuz Sociologists' approach is scientific and s/he is not making descions on general assumption but rather based on scientific inquary which we call Social Research.
The policy makers of a country can use the recommendations of the sociologists in making policies that can solve the social problems of a society. And there are several specialized branches of Sociology that deal in their specific area of interest.
Well said. With all due respect Sir as we say that anything that deals with society is called sociology, it is the scientific study of society... the point arises
who builds the social structure.....
who is responsible for implementing social system in society.....
and who controls the strings of norms & traditions of our system.....
& again who is forcing the citizens to be a part of this puppet game.....?
Who is the one??
now question arises
if they are political leaders, then politics is a branch of sociology. Our political leaders belong to the same society in which we are living.
If policy makers, they are also the part of our society controlled by sociologists who are scientifically analyzing social problems.

If policy makers don't follow the recommendations of sociologists then who is at fault???

Bcoz sociology deals with each and every aspect of society!!!
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hahahah Kiyani relates social problems with socilogy excellently. now i have some questions from kiayani,
1. why we economists are there to make fiscal and monetary policies which deals with our social problems? where socialogists are not there?
2. why engineers make policies about energy crisis? why socialogist do not take responcibility to tackle the problem?
3. why educationaists selected to define syllabus for whole country? why socialogists neglected there?
4. why education policy developed by government policy makers? why not through socialogists?
5. why health issues tackled through doctors and demographers? why not through socialogists?
6. why agricultural issues solved through agricultural specialists????????
socialogy is totaly different field they could not tackle with crisis and isseus of the country which are basically political and economical.in Pakistan society is mostly build by our independent media and religious scholars who have large poor population in thier madrassas.
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Exclamation soceity duilds through education system

The madrassa issue in Pakistan
The madrassa issue
Nov 15: Many parents, if they felt that their children would get an education in public sector schools and be actually literate and numerate by the time they complete the primary cycle, would opt to send their children to these schools rather than the madrassas
A recent editorial in this paper has referred to the observation of a cleric, Mufti Sarfraz Naeemi, protesting against the unfairness of a situation in which the actions of a small minority give a bad name to Islam and the madrassa system of education that goes back centuries. ("A benign role for the madrassa?", November 11)

In the Mufti's view, it is a system that retains the capability of interfacing with the modern world. He makes the point that most madrassas, including the institution that he heads, are not training grounds for terrorists. And that if there are exceptions to the general rule, with some preaching violence or providing training in arms, it is the obligation of the government to find them and take appropriate action against the offenders.

There is much that is valid in what Mufti Naeemi has to say. The law of the land should be applied to any individual or institution that through what it propagates makes other citizens objects of hatred or encourages militancy and violence against them. The madrassa in this sense obviously cannot be an exception to the rule. As for the perception that, generally speaking, most of the madrassas are producing militants, more than one research study has established that facts do not support this contention, including the one carried out by Christine Fair in 2006, focusing on madrassas in Pakistan.

That having been said, it would be fair to point out that exceptions do exist and the fact that political support and international linkages have meant that many madrassas have had a measure of immunity from government action even when they may have been clearly contravening the law. In part, the government looked the other way in the past because 'motivated' young men willing to fight deniable and low-cost wars were in a sense a policy requirement.

Meanwhile, there were badly thought out reforms undertaken with respect to the madrassas. An aid-funded programme supposed to run from 2002-2003 for five years provided for the madrassas being given assistance to modernise their curriculum if they were willing to register themselves with the government. They were to be given assistance, for instance, with computers, the teaching of English, etc.

If the idea was to change the mindset, it was strange one at best. If the assumption that the use of computers and knowledge of English would change the worldview of the madrassa students were valid, we would not have the UK, for instance, having to deal with militancy issues among its Muslim youth. Most of them have had access to both.

Even when violence per se was not an issue in madrassa education, the orientation was by definition sectarian. Education, generally, should have served as a key site for diffusing the problem of sectarianism that had been aggravated during the Zia years. Yet there was no effective mechanism in the years that followed to roll back the damage of those years on the education system particularly by way of strengthening the madrassas and their increasingly strident campaign against those belonging to other sects.

The problem, therefore, with the madrassas is not that they are the perpetrators of violence. In most cases they are not. The problem lies in their sectarian bent and narrowly focused education that instead of taking forward Islam's universalist message promotes an attitude of exclusivism and intolerance. It deepens the schisms within society and creates in some ways a sympathetic environment for extremism.

Clearly, what is taught in the madrassas needs to be much more carefully regulated. Beyond that it is the parents right to send their child to a madrassa to get a religious education. And this is the motivation for many in the given circumstances. But few send their child to such an institution to learn hate and violence. In any case for most families poverty is a driving factor. A large number of madrassas actually provide free education to children of very poor families in the sense that they also take care of board and lodging. In a situation where the state provides very little by way of social safety nets, this is sometimes the only alternative available particularly where family size is relatively large.

One obvious way then for dealing with the issue is to ensure that public sector education delivers. Many parents, if they felt that their children would get an education in public sector schools and be actually literate and numerate by the time they complete the primary cycle, would opt to send their children to these schools rather than the madrassas.

As matters stand, that is not quite the case. The high dropout rate even at the primary level is at least in part due to the fact that there is little teaching or learning taking place in a large number of public sector schools. And without getting into a discussion over how much better the private sector schools are, the point is that the very poor cannot afford to pay even the low fees charged by many of these schools.

There is another dimension to the problem. Public sector schools may not be promoting sectarianism but they certainly appear to be doing very little to counter this menace. There is very little in the direction set by the curriculum, the textbooks provided to the schools (free but with the quality of the content leaving much to be desired) or the orientation and training of teachers that is geared to countering the message of hate and intolerance. This has to change even as a serious effort is instituted for madrassa reform.

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Abbas Rashid lives in Lahore and can be contacted at abbasrh@gmail.com (Daily Times)

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@ kiyani
Plz try to clear your concepts. Sociology has its main focus on group life/social Interaction. When people interact in groups, a social process takes place that results in the emergence of social institutions that fulfil the needs of the members of the society. These institutions are Family, Education, Economic, Political, Recreation to name a few of them. Sociology is the study of these institution. A sociologist does not put label of GOOD or BAD on social norms and cultural traits as s/he is social scientist and not a reformer while studying society. However, as a human being s/he may have his or her own views about something in society.
The sociologists are not Administrators who can bring change in society by issuing an exective order, however, they can advise policy makers for bringing change in society.
Hope it will help you.
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