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Islamiyat is not a difficult paper if we deal it as a code of life, not for mere preperation of the exams.
all the questions in the 2010 paper can be taken as if it were asked by a non muslim to a muslim to justify his/her religion. and what is our attitude, we just take it as a course. we are unjust towards islam.we must know all these things to prove ourselves muslims.

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Then why it poved a nightmare for many?
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Then why it poved a nightmare for many?
3 things can be counted for:

A) The Luck Factor: Obviously counts in every paper and did count a lot in Islamiat.

B) Whenever, an ordinary Pakistani student is asked to write about something which will require a bit of diplomacy, imagination, creativity etc etc, we flunk major time. this is what happened in Islamiat. It was a very general paper (where except a few ayats and ahadis, i was not able to plug them anywhere) and we needed expressive powers and not ratta powers.

C) Islamiat was targeted by FPSC this year i believe
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3 things can be counted for:

A) The Luck Factor: Obviously counts in every paper and did count a lot in Islamiat.

B) Whenever, an ordinary Pakistani student is asked to write about something which will require a bit of diplomacy, imagination, creativity etc etc, we flunk major time. this is what happened in Islamiat. It was a very general paper (where except a few ayats and ahadis, i was not able to plug them anywhere) and we needed expressive powers and not ratta powers.

C) Islamiat was targeted by FPSC this year i believe
Thanks for consideration.
Definitely luck plays its role ,
and it goes without saying that many in paper beat about the bush ,
but you see the number of failed students in Islamyat is in thousands this year.
I have found many competent aspirants biten by this subject
who did extraordinariliy in other subjects.
Even they scored well in subjects in whics one has to attempt general questions ,
which does establishes their credibility as a competent aspirant.
Even then Why?
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Thanks for consideration.
Definitely luck plays its role ,
and it goes without saying that many in paper beat about the bush ,
but you see the number of failed students in Islamyat is in thousands this year.
I have found many competent aspirants biten by this subject
who did extraordinariliy in other subjects.
Even they scored well in subjects in whics one has to attempt general questions ,
which does establishes their credibility as a competent aspirant.
Even then Why?
that's why i added the 3 condition too ...perhaps FPSC had targeted this area. well to me there is no entity as a "competent aspirant". nobody could explain this term. credibility as a competent aspirant cannot be established by co-relating papers with different backgrounds and different fields. for example if student A scores 90 in Pushto and Student B scores 90 in Statistics, they cannot be equal. they were good in their respective subjects and all.

all those who did not do well in Islamiat should point out their mistakes. i mean every body has a gut feeling as to why they flunked a particular paper. the reasons i believe that i cleared the paper were:

1- Wrote concise and to the point.
2- Highlighted the very few ahadis and ayahs i used. Even if i knew they were correct in their wordings i did mention that i am referring not to an exact hadis but the closest meaning to that hadis.
3- in every question i just focused on a few points. perhaps 3 to 4 at maximum.
4- attempted the best question i knew first and so continued.
5- i was not un-nerved by the MCQs section of Islamiat. i knew only 5 and those are the only correct MCQs in the paper. This was what motivated me more for the subjective portion.
6- i went through the DAWN articles only.
7- Attempted in English and wrote in a good handwriting
8- and obviously there was this luck factor. and yeah i used to recite a dua after every paper on every single sheet of the paper. the dua was supposed to hide my shortcoming to everybody else. i had my faith in that prayer and mashallah that worked out i believe
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well to me there is no entity as a "competent aspirant". nobody could explain this term. credibility as a competent aspirant cannot be established by co-relating papers with different backgrounds and different fields. for example if student A scores 90 in Pushto and Student B scores 90 in Statistics, they cannot be equal. they were good in their respective subjects and all.
You are absolutely right.
I am indeed convinced and a little relaxed too.


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the reasons i believe that i cleared the paper were:

1- Wrote concise and to the point.
2- Highlighted the very few ahadis and ayahs i used. Even if i knew they were correct in their wordings i did mention that i am referring not to an exact hadis but the closest meaning to that hadis.
3- in every question i just focused on a few points. perhaps 3 to 4 at maximum.
4- attempted the best question i knew first and so continued.
This is indeed the key for success in this subjec.
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5- i was not un-nerved by the MCQs section of Islamiat. i knew only 5 and those are the only correct MCQs in the paper. This was what motivated me more for the subjective portion.
This literally brought sweat on many's forehead but its great to see thet you made it power for u.
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6- i went through the DAWN articles only.
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7- Attempted in English and wrote in a good handwriting
In your opinion , does English or Urdu creat any difference. I am much eager to know this as I personally feel its better to go for English.
Plz if possibe elaborate it.
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and yeah i used to recite a dua after every paper on every single sheet of the paper. the dua was supposed to hide my shortcoming to everybody else. i had my faith in that prayer and mashallah that worked out i believe
CSS I believe is appointment from God. Prayers definitely work wonders.
Prayers contribute beyond our expectations even.
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Plz if possibe elaborate it.


in my opinion it does. Urdu is a language, islamiat is well written about. I mean there are proper words and everything. it demands a typical writing style. Secondly, switching between Urdu and English can become a problem. Thirdly, as quoted to me by my friends and contacts, and it's my personal assumption too, the urdu checkers are typical. they want typical answers. throughout my university days and elsewhere, i have noticed that the people who would teach you islamiat in english are more refined and less, what one may call, typical. i mean they would not expect you to come up with sweeping statements etc. MODERATE one may say heheh
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In your opinion , does English or Urdu creat any difference. I am much eager to know this as I personally feel its better to go for English.
Plz if possibe elaborate it.


in my opinion it does. Urdu is a language, islamiat is well written about. I mean there are proper words and everything. it demands a typical writing style. Secondly, switching between Urdu and English can become a problem. Thirdly, as quoted to me by my friends and contacts, and it's my personal assumption too, the urdu checkers are typical. they want typical answers. throughout my university days and elsewhere, i have noticed that the people who would teach you islamiat in english are more refined and less, what one may call, typical. i mean they would not expect you to come up with sweeping statements etc. MODERATE one may say heheh
i feel that URDU is better medium. for many reasons.
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In your opinion , does English or Urdu creat any difference. I am much eager to know this as I personally feel its better to go for English.
Plz if possibe elaborate it.


in my opinion it does. Urdu is a language, islamiat is well written about. I mean there are proper words and everything. it demands a typical writing style. Secondly, switching between Urdu and English can become a problem. Thirdly, as quoted to me by my friends and contacts, and it's my personal assumption too, the urdu checkers are typical. they want typical answers. throughout my university days and elsewhere, i have noticed that the people who would teach you islamiat in english are more refined and less, what one may call, typical. i mean they would not expect you to come up with sweeping statements etc. MODERATE one may say heheh
Thanks a lot for your great consideration.
My thoughts and experiences are also inline with yours.
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i feel that URDU is better medium. for many reasons.

Mussaa would you plz explain it . Not only it would remove my confusion but also that of countless other aspirants.
Eagerly waiting for reply .
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