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SADIA SHAFIQ Tuesday, March 05, 2013 08:00 AM

[SIZE="3"][B][I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Through Allama Iqbal’s writings and views of Quaid-i-Azam explain their conceptual understanding about the Islamic state. Do you agree that their vision found some place while explaining the constitutional developments throughout the case of Pakistan’s political history
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can any one tell the major headings or themes of answer .
[LIST][*]It is Islamic democracy ?[*]Ijtehad ?
[B]Two nation theory >[/B]

kindly please tell me , Their teaching revolves around these and two nation theory encompasses the two .

I have focused on two nation theory and it was ijtehad /Islamic democracy ; the collapse of pianism and nation-state .I WILL be given credit or zero would be awarded ? And my interpretations are wrong ,then kindly tell what you think or what is best . [/LIST]

mohsinali303 Tuesday, March 05, 2013 03:13 PM

3. Ahmad Shah Abdali launched his [B]early[/B] invasion against:

it was against sikhs

Dont think of marhatas only when a question about Abdali is asked.

I m wondering why last island has chosen marhatas:nono

mohsinali303 Tuesday, March 05, 2013 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=SADIA SHAFIQ;567264][SIZE="3"][B][I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Through Allama Iqbal’s writings and views of Quaid-i-Azam explain their conceptual understanding about the Islamic state. Do you agree that their vision found some place while explaining the constitutional developments throughout the case of Pakistan’s political history
[/COLOR][/I][/B]
[/SIZE]
can any one tell the major headings or themes of answer .
[LIST][*]It is Islamic democracy ?[*]Ijtehad ?
[B]Two nation theory >[/B]

kindly please tell me , Their teaching revolves around these and two nation theory encompasses the two .

I have focused on two nation theory and it was ijtehad /Islamic democracy ; the collapse of pianism and nation-state .I WILL be given credit or zero would be awarded ? And my interpretations are wrong ,then kindly tell what you think or what is best . [/LIST][/QUOTE]

I focused on islamic democratic state
then constitution Islamic clauses and there links with Iqbal and Quaid vision

Quaid and Iqbal thought for an Islamic state,which will be role model for all muslims states.

Stunner Tuesday, March 05, 2013 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=SADIA SHAFIQ;567264][SIZE="3"][B][I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Through Allama Iqbal’s writings and views of Quaid-i-Azam explain their conceptual understanding about the Islamic state. Do you agree that their vision found some place while explaining the constitutional developments throughout the case of Pakistan’s political history
[/COLOR][/I][/B]
[/SIZE]
can any one tell the major headings or themes of answer .
[LIST][*]It is Islamic democracy ?[*]Ijtehad ?
[B]Two nation theory >[/B]

kindly please tell me , Their teaching revolves around these and two nation theory encompasses the two .

I have focused on two nation theory and it was ijtehad /Islamic democracy ; the collapse of pianism and nation-state .I WILL be given credit or zero would be awarded ? And my interpretations are wrong ,then kindly tell what you think or what is best . [/LIST][/QUOTE]

I'm afraid you were on the wrong track in answering this question .. It was a simple question but put differently ..

Allama Iqbal's writings give us a view that his concept of democracy was a little different from the commonly prevalent one .. He was more in favour of a welfare Islamic state .. And remember the verse 'Sultani Jamhoor ka aaya hai zamana' for a different concept about democracy ..

Quaid e Azam on the other hand wanted Pakistan to be an ideal Islamic state which would be used to 'experiment Islam' .. Here his quotes regarding status of non-Muslims as equal Pakistani citizens and his address to American Nation about proposed structure of Pakistani state as an Islamic democratic state were to be mentioned ..

Now the later part of the question asked for an analysis of the constitutional history of Pakistan keeping in mind the concepts of Iqbal and Quaid .. And clearly one would suggest that our constitutional history has been different from the proposed vision Iqbal and Quaid had about Pakistan .. So, I would disagree that their vision found some place in constitutional history of Pakistan, except the name 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' .. In other words the implementation is weak .. This is how I would have answered this question .. Others may have different views ..

Regards ..

gorchani Tuesday, March 05, 2013 04:01 PM

well done stunner
 
Stunner has grasped the question.

we had to justify in that question whether today we fulfil the condition of quaid's vision about pakistan?? whether we can experiment on our religion freely? it was something based on this philosophy

SADIA SHAFIQ Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:35 AM

[QUOTE=Stunner;567474]I'm afraid you were on the wrong track in answering this question .. It was a simple question but put differently ..

Allama Iqbal's writings give us a view that his concept of democracy was a little different from the commonly prevalent one .. He was more in favour of a welfare Islamic state .. And remember the verse 'Sultani Jamhoor ka aaya hai zamana' for a different concept about democracy ..

Quaid e Azam on the other hand wanted Pakistan to be an ideal Islamic state which would be used to 'experiment Islam' .. Here his quotes regarding status of non-Muslims as equal Pakistani citizens and his address to American Nation about proposed structure of Pakistani state as an Islamic democratic state were to be mentioned ..

Now the later part of the question asked for an analysis of the constitutional history of Pakistan keeping in mind the concepts of Iqbal and Quaid .. And clearly one would suggest that our constitutional history has been different from the proposed vision Iqbal and Quaid had about Pakistan .. So, I would disagree that their vision found some place in constitutional history of Pakistan, except the name 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' .. In other words the implementation is weak .. This is how I would have answered this question .. Others may have different views ..

Regards ..[/QUOTE]
First of all , I would say thanks for the answer . Your answer is very much explanatory and still part of my question is pending ..

1. Both have given the idea of two nations in Sub-continent . And Allama Iabal Like sir syed was mujtahid .His ideas resembles with Jamal -ud-din Afgani who had pannist Islamic approach . But 1930- address is an example of his Ijtehad . Quaid processed his idea in Lahore resolution .

2. Focusing on idea of two nation theory in such perspective would be wrong ? For example exemplifying new world political order demands territory ; that`s why Pakistan came into being ; citing the example of Burmese in Arakan areas where world and all Islamic states are less vocal because it is a hub of consumerism market of the world .

3. Keeping aside later part of question , I would be given credit ?

[B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#8b0000]Through Allama Iqbal’s writings and views of Quaid-i-Azam explain their conceptual understanding about the Islamic state.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Their conceptual understanding had shifted their thoughts from united India to separated land ? [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=black]I interpreted the question `s first part this way by giving the example of Burma ,Palestine etc . [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=black]4. Question have different themes and tell me I touched the theme of question or not .Frankly tell me ,I would be given 00/20 or would have some award too . I started the question with heading two nation theory is not failed ? It was the last question which I have attempted [/COLOR][/SIZE]

Stunner Wednesday, March 06, 2013 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=SADIA SHAFIQ;567892]First of all , I would say thanks for the answer . Your answer is very much explanatory and still part of my question is pending ..

1. Both have given the idea of two nations in Sub-continent . And Allama Iabal Like sir syed was mujtahid .His ideas resembles with Jamal -ud-din Afgani who had pannist Islamic approach . But 1930- address is an example of his Ijtehad . Quaid processed his idea in Lahore resolution .

2. Focusing on idea of two nation theory in such perspective would be wrong ? For example exemplifying new world political order demands territory ; that`s why Pakistan came into being ; citing the example of Burmese in Arakan areas where world and all Islamic states are less vocal because it is a hub of consumerism market of the world .

3. Keeping aside later part of question , I would be given credit ?

[B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#8b0000]Through Allama Iqbal’s writings and views of Quaid-i-Azam explain their conceptual understanding about the Islamic state.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Their conceptual understanding had shifted their thoughts from united India to separated land ? [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=black]I interpreted the question `s first part this way by giving the example of Burma ,Palestine etc . [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=black]4. Question have different themes and tell me I touched the theme of question or not .Frankly tell me ,I would be given 00/20 or would have some award too . I started the question with heading two nation theory is not failed ? It was the last question which I have attempted [/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Two nation theory is something different .. It was something that Muslims based their reason on for separating from India .. After the creation of Pakistan the purpose of two nation theory was achieved and it became sort of a historical thing .. This particular question however focused on the vision of Iqbal and Quaid to run an Islamic state after its creation and the later part of the question asked for your views if their vision has been applied in constitutional history of Pakistan after its independence of course .. So to me, you did not touch the theme of the question and two nation theory had no relevance in the answer ..

Regarding your projected score for this question, well, I cannot say much on this .. It is entirely up to the examiner whether he grants you some marks or nothing at all .. I wish and hope your remaining questions and MCQs went well .. Best of luck ..

Regards ..

Seemab Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=Stunner;567474]I'm afraid you were on the wrong track in answering this question .. It was a simple question but put differently ..

Allama Iqbal's writings give us a view that his concept of democracy was a little different from the commonly prevalent one .. He was more in favour of a welfare Islamic state .. And remember the verse 'Sultani Jamhoor ka aaya hai zamana' for a different concept about democracy ..

Quaid e Azam on the other hand wanted Pakistan to be an ideal Islamic state which would be used to 'experiment Islam' .. Here his quotes regarding status of non-Muslims as equal Pakistani citizens and his address to American Nation about proposed structure of Pakistani state as an Islamic democratic state were to be mentioned ..

Now the later part of the question asked for an analysis of the constitutional history of Pakistan keeping in mind the concepts of Iqbal and Quaid .. And clearly one would suggest that our constitutional history has been different from the proposed vision Iqbal and Quaid had about Pakistan .. So, I would disagree that their vision found some place in constitutional history of Pakistan, except the name 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' .. In other words the implementation is weak .. This is how I would have answered this question .. Others may have different views ..

Regards ..[/QUOTE]
I did the same, even translated "juda ho deen siysat se to reh jati he changezi"

[QUOTE=Seemab;568295]I did the same, even translated "juda ho deen siysat se to reh jati he changezi"[/QUOTE]
I also mentioned Quaid's concept of foreign relations, and the absolute denial of those principles by Liaquat Ali Khan's inclination towards one pole (USA).

I love Hussain Bin Ali Friday, March 08, 2013 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=Last Island;563765]
20.The author of “The Case of Pakistan” is
d. None[/QUOTE]

If we put a glance over the list of suggested readings prescribed by the FPSC in the syllabus of GK-III (P.A.), we find on number 7 that the book "THE CASE FOR PAKISTAN" is written by Rafiq Afzal. So, the answer should be (a) and not (d). But, the way the question is asked and the word "for" is replaced by the word "of", it gets doubtful and the answers seems to be (d).

AQ47 Sunday, March 10, 2013 02:09 AM

The paper was designed for indo-pak history candidates. I agree with someone who termed it history paper rather pak affairs paper in previous posts. The essence of css papers is their trend towards contemporary issues but the inclination of examiner towards history is out of this world really... :?


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