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Default 5 reasons why Afghanistan blames Pakistan.

5: There are elements within the Afghan security services like NDS who are more loyal to RAW than to the Afghan state. NDS is packed with Tajik and Uzbeks who are now living without the fat doll outs given to them by American taxpayers, that is where Indians come in to cop the bill. United States has refused to fund NDS after figuring out that it was nothing more than a nexus built to torture uncooperative Pukhtoon detainees who can be called Taliban without any evidence and tortured to an inch of their lives. India therefore has leverage on NDS which they utilize to blame Pakistan for the failures of Afghan state and to keep the pressure on Pakistan from two sides. People like Amarullah Saleh reflect that mindset.

4: Afghanistan's national unity govt in Kabul is built on a fragile ground. The cabinet and the houses of parliament are in the firm control of former northern alliance therefore it is challenging for a leader like Ashraf Ghani to balance the scales without being ousted by his own parliament. Blaming Pakistan keeps the 'house in order'.

3: Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) which were raised by the Americans, were basically a re branded force packed with anti Pukhtoon Northern Alliance forces who fought for the foreign invasion forces in 2001 and were retrained and equipped by NATO and later ISAF. Now they are losing battle to the Afghan Taliban insurgents in a number of areas. According the the US military command, the ANSF is now losing up to 4000 soldiers a month due to demoralization, drug addiction and going AWOL (Absent With Out Leave). Pointing fingers at Pakistan saves Kabul the trouble to actually scrutinize its own security services.

2: Blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan's troubles makes Afghanistan look like a united country and makes Afghan National Unity Govt much more stronger and united than it really is. This is only ONE issue where even Ghani, Abdullah and Karzai agree. So in other words one anti Pakistan statement is all that is needed to make the ANUG look united and give a false sense of political normality. It also helps curb dissent and pacify those ranks in the military who would forcefully remove a Pukhtoon president who takes a much more reasonable line towards relations with Pakistan.

1: Blaming Pakistan keeps Afghan public sentiment in order. Like it or not, the Afghans have hated Pakistan much more than India has ever hated Pakistan since 1947. Afghans refused to accept Pakistan as a sovereign state, voted against its UN membership in 1948, joined up with KGB to create a violent insurgency in Balochistan in 1970s, fired Scud missiles into Pakistan and tried to create another insurgency in Khyber Pukhtoonkhuwa.

Even today all of the top terrorists Pakistan wants from Mullah Fazlullah who ordered to assassinate Pakistan's nobel peace laureate Mallala Yousafzai and orchestrated the APS massacre of 139 Pakistani children in a Peshawar school to Dr. Allah Nazar, the chief of BLF which carried out the Turbat massacre of 25 Pakistani laborers among other top terrorists are all hiding in Afghanistan with full assistance of NDS and RAW. Balach Marri the head of BLA who ran to Afghanistan after assassinating Akbar Bugti was also killed in Gramshar area in Helmand Afghanistan.

The top financier of TTP Latif-ullah-Mehsood (now in ISI custody) who was snatched by US SEALs from NDS protection in Afghanistan and TTP's spokesperson Shahid ullah Shahid was also killed in a US drone strike in Afghanistan. Therefore it is much easier and quicker to issue anti Pakistani tirade on the media to let Afghans come on the streets, burn some Pakistani flags, chant death to Pakistan, blame all of their troubles on Pakistan and discuss plans on how to expand Afghan territory to the Indus river, than to actually admit the fact that the Afghan state due to its internal fragility and incompetence has failed to protect its own citizens and is instead busy blaming a foreign country which always comes to its aid in order to create a false sense of political unity and control over state affairs. This is an unfortunate juncture where two Muslim states bite up and become a laughing stock to Hindustan.

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Has anyone wondered the reason why Uzbeks and Tajiks are against Pakistan? Because Pakistan sees Afghanistan through a Pashtun len; Pakistan has supported Pashtuns in Afghanistan against their rival ethnic groups, which is a fatal mistake any country could make!
The state should be neutral in dealing with people of different ethnic makeup across the border, instead when they favored one group, others were estranged and India came in to fill the gap, right from supporting Ahmad Shah Massoud to this day!
At the end of the day Pashtuns like Hamid Karzai and Ashraf Ghani are too against PAkistan
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It z all about interest game... today afghans have more intetests in india due to their fragile economy and security issuea. While pakistan is suffering from the same issues itself. So afghanistan is looking towards alien countries for help...

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The NDS, RAW and CIA nexus made during 2004 for the separation of balochistan from pakistan added fuel to the fire.

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Has anyone wondered the reason why Uzbeks and Tajiks are against Pakistan? Because Pakistan sees Afghanistan through a Pashtun len; Pakistan has supported Pashtuns in Afghanistan against their rival ethnic groups, which is a fatal mistake any country could make!
The state should be neutral in dealing with people of different ethnic makeup across the border, instead when they favored one group, others were estranged and India came in to fill the gap, right from supporting Ahmad Shah Massoud to this day!
At the end of the day Pashtuns like Hamid Karzai and Ashraf Ghani are too against PAkistan
How you know that Pakistan is supporting Afghan Pashtun.?? 80% of afghan security personnel are pashtun. I know well about them. they all are against pakistan. these all afghanis are the children of Russian army. the uzbik tajik, and pashtun considered pakistan as their first enemy while they accepted india as their best friend. we should called them Namak haram.
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Afghanistan is very hostile towards Pakistan from very beginning, it didn't recognize Pakistan a sovereign country in 1947. In 1948 it had opposed and cast negative vote at UN membership. I think Pakhtuns have serious reservations over Durand line which they don't accept as an international border, they claim Tribal areas and KP to be the part of Afghanistan. This is the game of increasing territorial boundaries
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How you know that Pakistan is supporting Afghan Pashtun.?? 80% of afghan security personnel are pashtun. I know well about them. they all are against pakistan. these all afghanis are the children of Russian army. the uzbik tajik, and pashtun considered pakistan as their first enemy while they accepted india as their best friend. we should called them Namak haram.
Pakistan supported Gulbadin Hikmatyar, a Pashtun against Ahmad Shah Masoud, a Tajik. We didn't even support Burhanuddin Rabbani because he wasn't a Pashtun. We wanted to install a Pashtun friendly government in Kabul and when Hikmatyar proved uncapable, we started supporting the Pashtun Talibans. The rest we know is history.
And that was what I mentioned too, even Afghan Pashtun have unfavorable ideas toward Pakistan thanks to the doctrine of strategic depth that led to supporting the Taliban and subsequent disaster in Afghanistan. If we had dealt with all ethnic groups similarly, the case would have been different, and if we had pursued the policy of non-intervention it would have been much better.
I support the notion that refugees should go back to their country. If anyone has read about the current budget, he will know that 488 Million rupees have been earmarked for Afghan refugees which is a huge amount out of taxpayers' money!
Moreover, in 2014 the Afghan National Army was 43% Pashtun, 32% Tajik,12% Hazara and 10% Uzbek. Not 80%! Fact check.
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And Kindly tell me that who is hamid karzai, who is ashraf ghani, these two are pashtun, hazara, tajik, uzbik or persian, ?? i hope you know them, the federal government received a huge amount from the international donor UNHCR for the afghan refugees but they spent these money for the Metro and Orange train project. No one afghani is sincere toward pakistan, they always support india in every occasion, specially during cricket match between india and pakistan. i hope kpk government will kick them out from our land ( there is a big difference between afghan pashtun and Pakistani pashtun)
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Afghans have old romance with India. The foreign policy of Pakistan was also not comprehensive in terms of better relations with Afghan establishment specially those who are associated with Northern Alliance.
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