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All of us(common citizens) know this , do our leaders not?
the basic thing is USA is already changing her foriegn policy somewhat against saudia.
why general raheel , retired coas without any extension , is selected as leader of muslim force? in spite of fact that arabs could hire any greatest leader from world. china is stretching herself and engulfing whole asia , russia is also in lap of china. these all factor wary US think tanks to create such a force ,headed by pak, to create rift among middle east countries , iran, china , and obviously russia. china as well as russia want to improve ties with iran and india but also want peace in afghanistan. if it is so , it means they can not leave iran and saudia (sunni state) is rival of iran(shia state)........so on. long debate
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NOTE my words : whenever the US gives right hand to shake that means she must have a knife in her left hand to stab on back.


American friendship is more dangerous then her enmity.
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should better play a mediatory role between Iran and Saudi Arabia, instead of joining the Saudi-led Alliance of the Sunni countries.
its now too late to play any card.. 'The time is over ''




we have been trapped in a blind alley .

we are moving to isolation .
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We can still go off the alliance, but this will generate worse results especially in terms of KSA. Remember the time when Pak just announced that it is not going to be a part of the upcoming alliance, then KSA invited Modi and presented him with the highest civil award and creating rumors inside Pakistan to stop aid and the free of cost Oil that is used for nuclear purposes for the protection of the country. Now at this scenario Pak needs to be so much stable in order to annoy KSA, in other exceptions, we cannot afford such a thing. Perhaps, USA can be a major beneficiary behind this alliance as it can also cause a great damage to Russia because of its strong relations with Iran.
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We can still go off the alliance, but this will generate worse results especially in terms of KSA. Remember the time when Pak just announced that it is not going to be a part of the upcoming alliance, then KSA invited Modi and presented him with the highest civil award and creating rumors inside to stop aid and the free of cost Oil that is used for nuclear purposes for the protection of the country. Now at this scenario Pak needs to be so much stable in order to annoy KSA, in other exceptions, we cannot afford such a thing. Perhaps, USA can be a major beneficiary behind this alliance as it can also cause a great damage to Russia because of its strong relations with Iran.
My dear ,, KSA kings' are still unhappy with Pakistan .

Recently , our prime minister to defuse tension went to KSA to be NEGOTIATOR between Qatar and KSA


but !! KSA kings asked him to define your side and WHOM do you support ?!




its our biggest fault that we make foreign relations on the basis of AID ..... not TRADE.

we must leave them at their condition. YES ! we will face some financial crisis for few years. After it , we will find new trade paths.



I am sure , one day these arrogant kings will come to Pakistan to save their MONARCHY .
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My dear ,, KSA kings' are still unhappy with Pakistan .

Recently , our prime minister to defuse tension went to KSA to be NEGOTIATOR between Qatar and KSA


but !! KSA kings asked him to define your side and WHOM do you support ?!




its our biggest fault that we make foreign relations on the basis of AID ..... not TRADE.

we must leave them at their condition. YES ! we will face some financial crisis for few years. After it , we will find new trade paths.



I am sure , one day these arrogant kings will come to Pakistan to save their MONARCHY .
Exactly - this should be on the top priority of Government. Imagine how long we are going to survive on the so called AID by Arab Countries and sacrifice our national interest. I guess Pakistan must go for a neutral Foreign Policy and prior to that, it must plan to face crisis, but there comes again, the patriotism of politicians. Pakistani Politicians don't think that much far rather they keep the nation busy in foolish things. They must learn to play strong diplomatic roles and make defensive moves. Only this will ensure stability of the country and will prevent the nation from being dependent on the aid of KSA.
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Exactly - this should be on the top priority of Government. Imagine how long we are going to survive on the so called AID by Arab Countries and sacrifice our national interest. I guess Pakistan must go for a neutral Foreign Policy and prior to that, it must plan to face crisis, but there comes again, the patriotism of politicians. Pakistani Politicians don't think that much far rather they keep the nation busy in foolish things. They must learn to play strong diplomatic roles and make defensive moves. Only this will ensure stability of the country and will prevent the nation from being dependent on the aid of KSA.


Our politicians are the western puppets . Whose family ,business everything thing is settled in the west . our 80% parliamentarians are well settled in the western states.

How can fake degree holders , extortionists , money launderers ,murderers , and illiterate feudal lords resolve our issues ?!

such puppets are sent to the third world countries to make people debt slave.


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Default Why Pakistan should be a part of IMA?

Pakistan has been already facing consequences of US- led war against Taliban in Afghanistan. We dont have a dog in the fight, this alliance is not a simple and clear cut alliance , it is a power tussal game between KSA and Iran. Iran is a common enemy for Israil and KSA, KSA has secret ties with Israil, Both have same goal : to over throw regime of Iran from the Region. Qatar deserted this alliance because Qatar supporting Palstin cause and by supporting Hizbullah and Hammas too. This Alliance had already killed thousands citizens of Yemmen , supported by US and UK led Air attacks.

Second , Iran wants to overthrow monarchies form Arab peninsula, while Arab monarchies are against Iran's stance. KSA has gravitated all muslim sunni states under umbrella of Wahabizm.

Third ,KSA wants obedient puppets like ,Maldieves and Mauritania. To put pressure on Pakistan :UAE a close ally of KSA , turned toward India for economic relations. Such steps reveals political edges of KSA and it's allies.

Fourth, KSA and whole Arab world considers superior themselves, while Pakistanis declared them their brothers. Pakistanis in Arabian states known as Miskeens. Deportation of 243000 pakistanis from KSA and UAE, points our importance for them.

Fifth , in presence of USA and UK with dominated roles, IMA will be unsuccessful. It could not become "Muslim Nato". Trump's announcement of 110 US droller sale of weaponry to KSA. And after that provision of Air Jets to Qatar , while both KSA and Qatar in state of war , revealing true intentions of USA.

Sixth, regional Islamic military powers are, Iran , Turkey and Pakistan. Turkey and Iran supporting Qatar's stance. without these power how could be IMA successful.
One can easily judge the situation , IMA is supported by USA and Uk, then how it could be in favor for Muslim ummah.

So Pakistan should be neutral to join IMA. because It is against the Foreign Policy of Pakistan and also threat for Pakistan's stability.
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Looking at the meaningful silence of America and nato , I will call this alliance a plan against Russia and the unity of Muslim umaah.
It will not only create sectarianism in Muslim world but also affect Pakistan foreign relations .

For peace restoration in Syria and Iraq , this alliance will have to confront with Basher-ul- Assad ,Russia ,Iran and Hezbolla group .39 states relation can be deteriorated with Russia and America needs customers of her weapons .
what i analyzed few months ago is going to be reality soon
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Pakistan was actually trying to leave a land of drought and go across the fierce river to the other end which looks pleasant to pakistanis. Once we reach at either of the ends, we ll have to stay there.

First of all we need to be clear about one thing that so called 'islamic allience' has nothing to do with Islam. Its purely an allience of specific countries of MENA or to be explicit, group of sunni countries who are forming this blockade with U.S. approval and support against Iran who is backed by Russia and to some extent China. We are in stuck between choosing to join the allience which is comprised on the country we have always had strong ties with, or to not join it anr focus on a block that is giving potential investments in our country and looks like a far more practical option than staying in an inequality based relation with U.S. But doing so will make Pakistan face the consequences of absence of many MENA countries at our back who have saved us from falling apart many times.

As a friend mentioned above, we need a cunning foreign policy in order to handle this sensitive situation. At present, our foreign policy should not be like a Japnese woman whose loyalty stays with one and only man but we should become more like a French girl who can successfully make each of his numerous lovers believe that her true love is only him. A foreign policy that can defend the reason for not joining the Islamic allience while giving it full support is most suitable for pakistan now. Whereas the same policy should make maximum out of the relations that are being offered by the anti-U.S lobby.

Its a tough call as it can be seen and a one time choice which is going to have long consequences for Pakistan and the entire world.
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