Wednesday, April 24, 2024
06:09 PM (GMT +5)

Go Back   CSS Forums > General > Discussion

Discussion Discuss current affairs and issues helpful in CSS only.

Reply Share Thread: Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook     Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter     Submit Thread to Google+ Google+    
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old Wednesday, September 15, 2021
Cotton candy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Karachi
Posts: 105
Thanks: 47
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Cotton candy is on a distinguished road
Default In a dilemma - Semi-government job or not? Please guide

Hello everyone.

I have been offered a job in a semi-government organization (Bahria University) as a Lecturer. I want to apply for other government permanent jobs and as I am about to reach the age limit (33), I would need age relaxation.

I am listing my concerns:

The job letter doesn't list that the job is permanent. Instead, it says 'contract' and no other details are mentioned in letter (such as duration of contract, when will it be renewed, leaves, notice period, etc).

The personal file thing is what is making me most worried because they make a personal file and if God forbid something happens and my personal file gets messed up, I am worried that any other govt. dept won't hire me.

I want to apply for government permanent jobs and as I am about to reach the age limit (33), I would need age relaxation for that. Since the university is semi-government, I wouldn't get age relaxation (or will I? Please let me know).

If I am over-worked here, I won't be able to study as much for other permanent govt jobs tests and will lose out on them, cross the age limit, and then my job here might also not last (as it says 'contract' on the letter).

Please guide me as to what I should do, thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old Wednesday, September 15, 2021
Dire Wolf's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Wilderness of North
Posts: 188
Thanks: 28
Thanked 47 Times in 39 Posts
Dire Wolf is on a distinguished road
Default

Depends upon your financial situation, you need a job right now or you can wait?

Secondly, merit is usually high in fpsc and provincial commission jobs. Are you confident that you can secure a job there if you leave this opportunity right now??? Everyone knows better about himself.

Your worries about contract and work load have weightage as per my knowledge, rest God knows better.

And there was a test for lecturers in fpsc on Monday. Did you take that, if yes you must have an idea about where you stand when it comes to getting a job in government sector.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old Wednesday, September 15, 2021
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 285
Thanks: 125
Thanked 71 Times in 58 Posts
Cheetaa is on a distinguished road
Default

First be clear what you want.

Secondly, it is better to have a job than no job (as you are planning for age relax for job that has not been adv so far).

Thirdly, you experience countes from now onwards so it means that ur time is not wasting as it would if u fail to join your current job.

Fourthly, believe me when u have job experience around 5 years than your will have more opportunities and new doors of applying for permanent jobs in gov sectors as you never had when u lack the required experince.

In short, i am telling you dont wastw this oppprtunity. Earn and enhance your experience. With that and with time you will be able to apply at many more positions and sectors including for permanent jobs.

Best of lk

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old Thursday, September 16, 2021
Cotton candy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Karachi
Posts: 105
Thanks: 47
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Cotton candy is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for your advices.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dire Wolf View Post
Depends upon your financial situation, you need a job right now or you can wait?

Secondly, merit is usually high in fpsc and provincial commission jobs. Are you confident that you can secure a job there if you leave this opportunity right now??? Everyone knows better about himself.

Your worries about contract and work load have weightage as per my knowledge, rest God knows better.

And there was a test for lecturers in fpsc on Monday. Did you take that, if yes you must have an idea about where you stand when it comes to getting a job in government sector.
I can manage finances for a while. But if I get over-worked now, then I will miss out on few last chances of securing well in jobs tests, as I am reaching the age limit.

Also, this job is written as a one-year contract (renewable) which is very less, it's not even permanent. It was advertised as permanent which made me apply for it.

I have already worked in govt, I had managed to secure a job but that was also contract and the experience was not so good so I'm concerned about this now that it's not even permanent.

I did not appear in the lecturer FPSC test (missed it due to some other reason). I'm interested in an office job, instead of a lecturer.

Another main concern is that it is under Navy, and if my personal file gets messed up, no other govt job would take me (I am not saying I will mess it up, I am saying that God forbid if something bad happened, then this contract will also end after a year and I will also miss out on other opportunities).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetaa View Post
First be clear what you want.

Secondly, it is better to have a job than no job (as you are planning for age relax for job that has not been adv so far).

Thirdly, you experience countes from now onwards so it means that ur time is not wasting as it would if u fail to join your current job.

Fourthly, believe me when u have job experience around 5 years than your will have more opportunities and new doors of applying for permanent jobs in gov sectors as you never had when u lack the required experince.

In short, i am telling you dont wastw this oppprtunity. Earn and enhance your experience. With that and with time you will be able to apply at many more positions and sectors including for permanent jobs.

Best of lk

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
As for your first point, I know that I want a permanent govt job, doesn't matter if it is not in teaching. I won't be able to study for any jobs when I have this tension on my head that I am working on contract which will not be renewed after a year if I don't over-work myself.

I have above 5 years of experience already, which will help me in getting next job.

I will give it one more day to think. I do feel like I should let this go.

Please add any points you feel like. Thanks a lot.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old Thursday, September 16, 2021
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 285
Thanks: 125
Thanked 71 Times in 58 Posts
Cheetaa is on a distinguished road
Default

Believe me wherever you work as a job you cannot do things in mutiplicity.

Secondly from your above comments i understand that u want permanent job but u have concerns like over demand of work on contracture status of job.

On later i would say :

" treat ur contractual job as it is treating you "

Which means that dont over burden ur self under such condition. Set ur goals and pursue it. If any job comes at the cost of your nerves then i must say a person must start planning to leave it in gradual manner so that he can manage to join some other place. Any contractual job can be left with a prior notice of 15 to 30 days.

Thirdly, i donot know why u pointed multiple times about file or ACRs. If u did not do any wrong then no one spoiled it and it never matters under contractual job for some cases.

In contractual job u have leaverage to leave under ur own rules and circumstances rather than fired.

" So use such job in your way; not as if she uses u ".

In nutshell i suggest u to opt job till you get permanent. If it is becoming burden on u for any reason then measure the opportunitg in hand and what is comming afront so 'start vacating from ur job and many more' reason like to prepare for upcomming job. No one will stop u from vacation based on you guts to apply on genuine reasoms for vacation oftenly. When dust of your exams and preparation settle then become active on ur contractual job as u want it dearly.

All the best and also share whether u joined or not as final decision.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old Thursday, September 16, 2021
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 196
Thanks: 9
Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
vampz is on a distinguished road
Default

What about NOC? Later for applying more jobs you would be needing NOC which will totally reside in the hands of concerned authorities.

I am pointing to it because i was offered a 2 years contract in NAVTAC but they were reluctant to give NOCs later so i didn't join them. You must check if Bahria issues NOC easily.

Sent from my vivo 1920 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old Thursday, September 16, 2021
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 285
Thanks: 125
Thanked 71 Times in 58 Posts
Cheetaa is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vampz View Post
What about NOC? Later for applying more jobs you would be needing NOC which will totally reside in the hands of concerned authorities.

I am pointing to it because i was offered a 2 years contract in NAVTAC but they were reluctant to give NOCs later so i didn't join them. You must check if Bahria issues NOC easily.

Sent from my vivo 1920 using Tapatalk
Look for contractual job NOC does not matter as all.

If you are in service employee than it matters.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old Friday, September 17, 2021
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 196
Thanks: 9
Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
vampz is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetaa View Post
Look for contractual job NOC does not matter as all.

If you are in service employee than it matters.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Are you sure? I talked with Assistant Director and he said NOC won't ve given if you opt for 2 year contract.

If you are sure please let me know because i am offered contract jobs regularly.

Sent from my vivo 1920 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old Friday, September 17, 2021
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 285
Thanks: 125
Thanked 71 Times in 58 Posts
Cheetaa is on a distinguished road
Default

Noc might required during application process whereas it depends on organjzation whether they ask u to submit as formalety on joining new deptt or position - when u had contractual job - because basic theme of Noc is for regular job holders not for contractual job person.

But in Pak due to errand nature of officers they demand from every body though by all status it must be for regular job holders rsther than co tractual person.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old Saturday, September 25, 2021
Cotton candy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Karachi
Posts: 105
Thanks: 47
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Cotton candy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetaa View Post
Believe me wherever you work as a job you cannot do things in mutiplicity.

Secondly from your above comments i understand that u want permanent job but u have concerns like over demand of work on contracture status of job.

On later i would say :

" treat ur contractual job as it is treating you "

Which means that dont over burden ur self under such condition. Set ur goals and pursue it. If any job comes at the cost of your nerves then i must say a person must start planning to leave it in gradual manner so that he can manage to join some other place. Any contractual job can be left with a prior notice of 15 to 30 days.

Thirdly, i donot know why u pointed multiple times about file or ACRs. If u did not do any wrong then no one spoiled it and it never matters under contractual job for some cases.

In contractual job u have leaverage to leave under ur own rules and circumstances rather than fired.

" So use such job in your way; not as if she uses u ".

In nutshell i suggest u to opt job till you get permanent. If it is becoming burden on u for any reason then measure the opportunitg in hand and what is comming afront so 'start vacating from ur job and many more' reason like to prepare for upcomming job. No one will stop u from vacation based on you guts to apply on genuine reasoms for vacation oftenly. When dust of your exams and preparation settle then become active on ur contractual job as u want it dearly.

All the best and also share whether u joined or not as final decision.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Thanks for your advice. I decided to not go for it. I forgot to mention that they had not mentioned anything in the letter. No mention of days of work, timings, duration of contract, will contract be renewed? If yes then on what conditions?, benefits, leaves, and so on. I had no idea what I was getting into. Moreover, it was advertised as a permanent job and later changed to contract. Final nail in the coffin was the NOC. I didn't want to risk any other permanent jobs with a job which wouldn't give me NOC and itself wasn't permanent even.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vampz View Post
What about NOC? Later for applying more jobs you would be needing NOC which will totally reside in the hands of concerned authorities.

I am pointing to it because i was offered a 2 years contract in NAVTAC but they were reluctant to give NOCs later so i didn't join them. You must check if Bahria issues NOC easily.

Sent from my vivo 1920 using Tapatalk
Thanks for reminding me about NOC. It was the final nail in the coffin. I didn't join because NOCs are not issued easily, and in case you need an NOC and it is not issued, then it becomes a problem.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pak affairs notes uzma khan youzaf zai Pakistan Affairs 11 Sunday, October 13, 2019 02:31 PM
Essays - Officer Academy LHR uzma khan youzaf zai Essays 24 Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:59 AM
Forms of government Shahbaz Asghar Pakistan Affairs 0 Thursday, October 02, 2014 06:22 PM
Ecnomic progress Vs Political situation very special 1 Discussion 48 Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:27 PM
PAKISTAN Press, Media, TV, Radio, Newspapers MUKHTIAR ALI Journalism & Mass Communication 1 Friday, May 04, 2007 02:48 AM


CSS Forum on Facebook Follow CSS Forum on Twitter

Disclaimer: All messages made available as part of this discussion group (including any bulletin boards and chat rooms) and any opinions, advice, statements or other information contained in any messages posted or transmitted by any third party are the responsibility of the author of that message and not of CSSForum.com.pk (unless CSSForum.com.pk is specifically identified as the author of the message). The fact that a particular message is posted on or transmitted using this web site does not mean that CSSForum has endorsed that message in any way or verified the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message. We encourage visitors to the forum to report any objectionable message in site feedback. This forum is not monitored 24/7.

Sponsors: ArgusVision   vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.