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Our country is facing worst energy crises in form of load shedding.

And total power shortage is becoming double of previous shortage.

According to a news paper, it will reach to 9000 Mega Watt during this year while last

Year this shortage was about 3300 Mega watt.

So some power plants construction is in progress at Chashma and some other places But

There precommissioning/ commissioning and start up is not possible before 2011 and

They will start production in 2011 mid and their capacity is only 300 to 400 Mega watts.

Government is also considering on Thar Coal Project But Chinese Company that taken that project has gone back to China due to some reason.

Capacity of our existing dams is reducing due to silting.

So I am dead sure that these shortages will go up and up.

Being a professional, I become surprised often when our Minister announce that “2009

Will be load shedding free Year” How is it possible?

These people have some magic stick to produce results.

I have limited knowledge so please if any one of you has some info that how 2009 will

Be load shedding free year, let me know, it will increase my knowledge.

Only Dams, Yes only Dams can produce thousands of Mega watts while nuclear power plants produce only 300-400 mega watts.

A single Kala bagh Dam can produce 4500 Mega watt.

If we start work on KBD today then it will complete in 2014 or 2015.

And we need to construct many dams for our increased power consumption.

But KBD project has been discarded.

Government is busy in Judges Issue, by election, talks with India, Dubai tour and many issues
Our economy is at stake. Government has no priority for energy crises.

What will happen?

I fear this load shedding will rise to 18 hours next summer.

Is this our fate to live in 16th Century when world is making air ports on Sea and developing so much,

Where I am doing job has no power crises because our company has its own power plant

So no concept of load shedding but when I go home and see load shedding and deaths due to summer condition, I realize that are we capable to call a NATION OR WE A CROWD OF People.
All members are requested to give suggestion to overcome this problem with minimum possible time.
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No doubt loadshedding is the biggest curse of our time.. which made our life vulnerable .

Today Pakistan is facing very difficult time because there are number of problems in which inflation, electricity political crisis are three major problems .

Pakistan is going through critical time and Pakistani nation is badly affected due to these problems. Every problem is linked with the other.

As we know that in these days we are suffering from a huge problem of electricity and we are facing load shedding which causes us loss in number of ways.
Due to load shedding domestic life as well as industrial life is affected badly.

All businesses are going down. Energy deficit/Load shedding as it is affecting the whole economy.
Unannounced load shedding is hitting the industrial production badly. There are many areas where over 7-9 hour long power shutdown.

Long hours of power breakdown bring miseries to already depressed nation.
Govt tall claims to make 2009 as a "loadshedding free year "is just a forlon hope ... we dont have enough resources and our govt dont even bother to plan for future energy resources.

Electricity use to cut off for almost the whole day here in Khi and other cities as well.

Due to prolonged load shedding adequate electricity was not available for tube wells, which had, adversely affected the wheat and fodder crops.

Because how they can do their work without electricity, and electricity shutdown often every 2 or 3 hours then how can they continue their work?

One of key difference between a developing country and a developed country is the power management.

Today France producing 78% of their electricity consumption from Nuclear power and U.S 20%.

Many Developing countries like Holland installed WindMills along their sea side to produce electricity. They are also facing population increase problem and they know very well how to meet this demand by energy production.

If our govt would have planned earlier than we might not facing such energy crisis.. Its the responsibility of govt who took heavy taxes from citizens and no relief in return.

If there are problems, they are the ones to resolve them, if they can’t do it, they have no right to remain in power.

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Frequent power shutdowns bringing grades down

Lahore, June 28, 2008: The hours-long load shedding in the city is giving a tough time to students, especially schoolchildren, during the ongoing examinations.

Students said that massive load shedding in the last few months had adversely affected their studies. They said that they could not study properly in the dim light and under hot and humid weather, as it gave them a headache and had affected their eyesight. Some students also said that their schools/colleges had power backup systems, but the systems were not being used. They said that they had been compelled to take classes and sit in examinations with no electricity in the rooms.

Students enrolled in semester system courses, especially those studying computers and other sciences, said that they had an extra burden of studies owing to the semester system. They said that they had to make presentations and submit term reports and assignments, which was impossible with no electricity in town. Teachers also said that they had problems giving lectures during load shedding.

The students of intermediate, preparing for their practicals, and others for the Pakistan Military Academy (PMA) and Central Superior Services (CSS) examinations have also denounced the Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) and the government for not complying with the students' demand of uninterrupted supply of electricity.

A number of institutions in the city did not give summer holidays to their students, as they had switched to the semester systems and were conducting examinations. Institutes like the Lahore College for Women University (LCWU), Government College University (GCU), Forman Christian College University (FCCU), and the Punjab University (PU) are still open and holding exams. Moreover, the students of Kinnaird College, Beaconhouse National University and FAST National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences are still due at the institutes for their assignments and research works.

Zara, a student of BS (Honours) at the LCWU, said that semester examinations were ongoing at different departments of the university, and usually there was no electricity during the examination. "It becomes difficult to sit in the examination rooms due to the heat and poor light, but we cannot do anything about it," she said, adding that there were no power generators at the university to facilitate the student. She said that students were also having trouble preparing for the exams, as they could not frame a proper timetable for studies owing to unplanned and massive load shedding.

Water shortage: Jawaria Ahmed, a PU Hostels boarder, said that students had no choice but prepare for their exams in candlelight during load-shedding hours. "The situation gets worse when the hostels run out of water, as we are not allowed to go out in the nighttime," she said.

Adeel Anjum, a Ravian studying computer sciences, said that students in his department did most of their work on computers, but the administration of the GCU had issued orders to close the computer labs at the time of load shedding. "We have to prepare our assignments and need the Internet for that, but now the computer labs are often closed due to the load shedding and we have to suffer," he said, adding that late submission of assignments was also affecting their grades.

Tayyab Bhatti, preparing for his CSS exams, said that students taking the exams usually went to libraries for preparations, but now it had become difficult for them to focus on their studies due to frequent power failure as they could not sit in libraries for long hours without electricity and cooling system.

Facilitating students: BNU Communication Adviser Arfa Sarfraz said, "Although we have closed the university for summer holidays, students who have not submitted their research work are still coming," she said, adding that every second student had the excuse that he/she could not complete the research work due to load shedding. "I personally believe that students are suffering the most due to the energy crises."

Khansa Nazim, an LCWU faculty member, said, "The administration knows that students are disturbed due to load shedding. We have kept this thing in mind before setting up question papers," she said. She said that teachers had also been suffering for the last many months because they usually used projectors to deliver lectures, which they could not do properly at the time of load shedding.

Another teacher at the university said that the authorities there too had directed the computers and science departments to shut down computer labs and laboratories during load shedding out of fear of getting equipment damaged.

Expectations not high: Asim Khan, a GCU student, said that power failure had always been a problem for students, and that thousands of students in the city had taken their matriculation, intermediate, and bachelor examinations during load-shedding hours. He said that students could not prepare for their exams properly, due to which they were not expecting good results.

He said that the graph of quality education might fall due to energy crises. "Neither the students, nor the teachers are satisfied with their progress," he said.

An official of the Lahore College of Arts and Sciences (LACAS) said that students there had suffered a lot during examination days due to frequent power shutdowns. He said that parents were concerned about the progress of their children. "They have complained that students are unable to concentrate on their studies due to hot and humid weather conditions," he said. He said that the school administration was trying to remove the parents' concern by installing UPS systems and generators at various branches of LACAS.

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I remember once we were talking on same forum you were more of towards Judges and my point of view was very much same as u have today

That Load Shedding and innocent Pakistani people

Dear I have told here on forum there is multiple ways to generate energy

http://www.cssforum.com.pk/general/d...nergy-but.html

Do read sources of energy which are cheaper and will not take more than six months to take out the solution of all this


Now as u said we are 5500 MW according to (world days 60) Magazine and but our Dear Dear Raja pervez Ashraf was saying in his last speech it is only 3900

And yeah I really do agree it takes time its not Movie of Shahrukh khan who will come in country and generate the energy this is serious issue which must be seriously discuss brother on all the nation level forum

But our focus is still on president house, judges etc

We are not taking the notice of those issue which seriously benefit a ordinary person like me and you


As u said being a nation we are coward

I want to ask what make a nation good nation

After that we will continue our this debate
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In this year's current affairs paper, there was an MCQ about the larges power resource Pakistan had. Those who didnt actually look up the figures before hand, automatically answered "hydroelectric".
The answer was Thermal.
This government plans to meet the electricity shortage by installing power plants that generate electricity through thermal means. Means either these plants run on oil or gas. Oil? Does this make the remotest of the sense? Are we part of the middle east or the energy starved south asia?
It is known that it takes long to get a hydroelectric power plant up and running. It took Ghazi Barotha 16 years to be operational(it could've been achieved a lot earlier). But the present government wont be interested in it...or in any hydroelectric power generation project for the purpose. Are they around for another 16 years? NO.
They are here to make quick money. Thermal plants need a year to install, a lot of commision goes into the pockets of those who wield power, top most being Mr. Zardari and he will scoot off leaving Pakistan in the middle of the worse economic nightmare in its history.
Hydroelectric power is a cheap and clean source of power generation. But since when did our leaders thought of the common man? and Pakistan...
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Load sheddingg has effected not only the Bossiness and nation of Pakistan but also the machinery and electric Towers. The following is a snap of Electric Tower which some one caught while the were playing.




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I think Pakistan has enough electricity, these are only propaganda and when government are trying to solve his matter of interest then they announces that we have going on loss etc. We are trying to overcome on load shedding etc. Only they want to divert our attention to load shedding this is all. Hope you agree with me.

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