Yehi mein ne kaha, We should expect good and betterment at least, whatever reality shows us.


I say ditto to afrms when she says united we stand divided we fall.

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I don’t know why our people fail to realize what is being asked? The question was

What you people feel that what can we do to give our people hope; hope to stand against things and hope to make things turn around.

That clearly demands everyone of us knows problems and there are lot of solutions in minds and of course on paper but how to make them practical. What should be done to make our people sensible enough so that they can make the difference?

Zubair Awan, is the only person who got the question and gave a solution in last paragraph with the right conclusion that it is now the duty of civic society to turn things around. The practical side of solution needs to be discussed yet.

Surmount and gurmani are discussing what whole nation knows; but what they are avoiding is to discuss how to change things. Through evolution or revolution. BTW this country cant bear revolution and we are not ready to think about evolution.

To some extent afrms did some thing positive by mentioning positive attitude and now thing is how to diffuse this positive ness in common man?

C’mon guys discuss how to motivate common man. Don’t tell us that we are divided in Punjabi Sindhi instead tell us how we can be united. Don’t tell us this should be done and that should be avoided; please tell us how it should be done?

Why don’t you adopt this (only if you like)? Those who want to contribute may have different approach but main thing is use of action verbs.

1) Analyzing and identifying problem
2) Suggesting solutions
3) Implementing solutions
4) Measuring performance and modifying solution
5) Again move to step 1.


I am thankful to all of you to remind us what we already know but I shall be more thankful to you when you will answer what is being asked. And yes I shall come up what is in mind soon; I just want to listen first what other people say.

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Dear RED! Thanks for evaluating our posts. Now please come to yours and let us evaluate it.

First of all let me tell you that there are some contradictions between your Topic of the Thread and the Question. The Topic is:


and your question is


If you don't know that how can we give that hope then why are you suggesting that Lets Give nation a hope?????????. And if you know those acts which can be source of hope (as you said there are some ideas in our mind or on 'Papers') then why are you asking from us? Why don't you post and let us know those ideas so that we may start our work?



Bring out here those IDEAS and you would be provided the implementaion of those one, hopefully if able to be implied.


Do you call it a hope? I just want to say that hopelessness in mind never leads others to hope. Revolution means a new evolution. In a revolution, we never be remain the part of the old system brother. We walks apart from the old ones that is why we call it a revolution (rEvolution).

After reading this of your statement, I think its better to step out. I am not saying that you are hopeless but I am saying that perhaps, you are hopeful that nothing would change. But I still believe in HIM (SWT) that there would a new beginning and when I have trust in HIM (SWT) then surely there would be some practical ideas. But I request you to please disclose those first.


The meanings of Waseem gurmani's sayings were that if we change yourselves, everything would be changed, from the betterment till the perfection. And that the hope of changing ourselves is (and should be) the actual hope. (Waseem Brother, pardon me if I am wrong in getting your point.Please let me know.)

I,myself carried his words and said the same thing in some different way, by my point of view, which meant 'Rather than waiting for some godot, we should be godot ourselves.' Both of us answer to your question as well but the focus was on the same point.


The answer of your 'how' is included in my earlier posts in which I follow afrms who you say that she is right and to me.... Common sense ki baat hai jubb hum Panjabi, Sindhi etc baney huey hain to UNITE ho ker he kaam buney ga na. I think its impossible to tell somthing when some one don't have even common sense.


Did you adopt that 'pattern' yourself?



Please go and fetch/bring those ideas what are in your mind, we are anxious to listen those, what was in my mind, I told you but as you don't like that so please mention the way exactly you feel.

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You got my point.......
@REDROSE
I will not comment further as Surmount has effectively quashed your reservations regarding our viewpoints.You might be asking something else but we answered what we got from your post........If you want us comment your thread,elucidate what you want to ask. Dear,there is no need to be RED.

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Our Prophet( P.B.U.H) said
Jo koi Allah per tawakal rakhey ga Allah usss kay liyay kafi ho ga

"Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but the Muslim Ideology which has to be preserved, which has come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which, we hope other will share with us."."(Muhammad Ali Jinnah)

You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of Islamic democracy, Islamic social justice and the equality of manhood in your own native soil."(Muhammad Ali Jinnah)

@ redrose

i seems like your are the examiner here and feel like that we have not made a good attempt,well its a general discussion corner and posts are pretty general.like anybody can have their say the way they like.this kind of discussion opens up new direction and is helpful in interaction.

Hope is an abstract thing which has to be in you so that it comes out and others feel it.when its not in you,you cannot give hope.
hope to the nation is a pretty gigantic task and at times impossible but like i said earlier that we need motivation and inspiration all the time.
the protocol that you have mentioned about hope
analyzing the situation ,suggestion............
these are solid steps but who will do this ,we need to think a little further ahead than hope to passion and optimism which has some prcticality attached to it.
read the above saying ,we need to follow Isalm in its true spirit,
hopelessness is a sin in our deen.we have our own ideology why dont we follow it i mean in real sense not on Eid or Jumma prayers only.
come up with your strategy but first you have to make a ministry of hope only than your plan will work otherwise its just a mere talk.
well beauty of democracy hhhhhhhhhhh like you said
We can agree to disagree.
@surmount
totally agree there.
regards

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