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View Poll Results: Honestly speaking, I want to join Civil Service because | |||
its a lucrative job. | 7 | 6.19% | |
it wields much needed power and authority. | 32 | 28.32% | |
it gives greater opportunites to serve the country | 43 | 38.05% | |
I love the way bureaucrats look. | 10 | 8.85% | |
I have no other choice. | 11 | 9.73% | |
its a respectable profession. | 25 | 22.12% | |
its a prestigious profession promising a bright future. | 38 | 33.63% | |
I am a talented person and my country needs my services in this field. | 38 | 33.63% | |
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@ Preshan Gul
An excellent analysis and well knitted passage I would take some excerpts from your initial post to discuss them by and by. Quote:
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The above mentioned factors made an enthusiastic and determined CSP a stiffed neck bureaucrat. I would continue with my discussion in the next sitting.............. Sorry for inconvenience.
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I am also doubtful about the catch-phrase of serving the nation . There is no problem if an engineer or a doctor is joining civil services but I am not convinced to the claim that doctors and engineer could serve better being in the civil services like DMG, PSP and customs as compared to those who did specializations in their respective fields. It is most likely that a doctor being PSP or DMG officer would have no participation while the health policies are designed federal level and so with other fields. The crux of the matter is we need competent and meticulous professionals in the civil services who has to develop policies of the country at their senior position and they should also have the talent to represent the country at any of the forum and we could proudly say that here we have our gems. Quote:
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I believe that claim of serving the nation and poor masses living miserable life fell short of practicality when a CSP joins the field after the completion of STP. If the intention is to serve the country then it could be in any of the field even railway is the most useful way to reduce the sufferings of common people as thousands of them travel through on daily basis… but how many of the aspirants want to join Railway….? Almost none. Even those who are selected in the services / groups other then PSP, DMG, Customs and Foreign Services make utmost to join the said groups even at a loss of their seniority of 2 to 3 years. Also your point regarding Doctors and Engineers joining the Civil Service with the so-called slogan of serving the nation is revealing and tells the real story. Though I agree with almost all of your points yet I couldn’t reconcile with your statement that “bureaucracy isn’t aloof from masses”. It is the pig-headed bureaucracy together with headless Military and brainless Politicians that jointly have lead our country to the present state of chaos and uncertainty. These three actors have always remained so remote from the common man that no cohesive nation spirit could be formed in our society. Of these three I blame bureaucracy the most because our Generals and Politicians, keeping in view their ‘qualities of head and heart’, aren’t of such a stature to even think of bringing some change. So the responsibility rests on Bureaucrats who you say are ‘the cream of our nation’. This ‘cream of our nation’ instead of awakening the masses to bring some betterment in their lot, connived with the Generals and Politicians for its personal gains and thus consistently played the role of an alien ruler mindless of the needs and aspirations of the common man. You may say that how bureaucracy could do anything with out the help of rulers. The point is valid but if bureaucracy couldn’t do something positive for the progress of this country it could at least have stopped our senseless rulers doing things that proved detrimental to the destiny of our nation. Instead of being an impediment in the way of wrong policies of our rulers our dear bureaucracy, most of the time, played a very happy role of a facilitator in dragging this country down to the path of regression. It is wrong to say that bureaucracy alone can not undo the follies committed by previous successive rulers. A single person, a single upright person, let alone the whole bureaucracy, can do the marvel with the indefatigable courage and relentless zeal if he is committed with his nation and his land. What did our bureaucracy have done in the past 62 years other than supporting the malpractices of our rulers and perpetuating the plight of the poor masses? Basking under the borrowed shine of fake superiority and contended with the position of being instruments of tyranny and misrule in the hands of successive despots our bureaucrats only increased their personal lots and sunk the fate of this hapless nation. . We need now a new breed of Bureaucrats: ascetic, energetic and ready to sacrifice every thing for uprightness and virtue. As early as we get rid of routinist officers it is better for our dear homeland. ------------------------------ Now after announcement of CSS 2009 Exams as a large number of candidates are preparing to join Civil Service it would be extremely useful for us to know with what aims and ambitions they intend to enter this service.
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فطرت کے مقاصد کی کرتا ہے نگہبانی یا بندہ صحراءی یا مرد کہستانی Last edited by Princess Royal; Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 08:21 PM. Reason: posts merged |
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@ above
im nt going 2 go in a lengthy debate. just few points
1) 2 ur query regarding who z better suited 2 opt 4 css among doc/ engr or simple BA or MA degree holders, i wont talk any philosophy over her neither i knw. Just Do a simple task it aint that tough. Just go 2 a medical college, a engg uni nd any other uni offering simple MA. pick out a person randomly from each place n give them any common prob of regarding day 2 day business of govt machinery n see out fr urself who z better. No need 2 ponder over it. ok 2) if an engr or doc leaves his profession nd opt 4 css tht means he z in dere fr any purpose. the thing tht purpose z gud or bad is something tht comes later. Now coming 2 80% applicant from MA bckground. vot purpose do they have rather then just coz they had nothing 2 do else. ur theory ov PPPzz somes later. they just dun have any purpose 2 go on wid. 3) just check 4 ppl around u. ask teenagerz of matriculation or inter abt what field they ll prefer fr themselves. Then come n tel me how many told u i want 2 b a CSP. 95% ll say either doc or engr or commerece man. So what happens out of these 95% only 10% have the talent 2 make it 2 thier dreams reast cant so they go 4 BA n MA. Tell me how many ppl voluntarily opt 4 simple BA?????????? so if doc or engr were able 2 be vot they wanted 2 b tht means they outclassed the rest. they had the talent 2 achieve thier aims so even after soming 2 CSS they can materialize thier gud intentions nd vot bout the reast even if they have gud intentions the experience tells u they were nt able 2 materialize them So plz be realistic. Nd 2 correct ur figures about we need more doc nd engr working i thier areas plz rest assure that there z already abundance of surplus doc n engr unless u build thousands of more hospitals nd industires nd it cant be done by aperson holding MBBS or Engg degree but rather by Govt n CSPz are tool of implementing govt will. @ all da bro holding Masterz in social sciences No offence meant. i just wanted 2 make my point clear 2 Gul. I rate social sciences even higher then technical ones provided one go fr them wid devotion nd nt just coz he cudnt make it otherwise
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CHILDISH Sidra,shah and otherzzz
Dear Pareshan Gul,
Excellent Fantastic Perfect Whatever u presented are the bitter pills to swalllow ....! ALL we are dying to take the 3 Ps shown by you. Indeed, i am going to take few excerpts from your first Writing and the way you mentioned the scenario is quite comprehesible and needs to be deliberated. I dont know why these people are not getting the crux of your discussion especially, i could not belive how people like Sidra , shah and drkhurram are taking the issue in wrong direction? the comments and arguments posted by sidra and shah4341 are insulting and pathetic and civil service is always almost defamed by such kind of expressions of people. Irresponsible senseless and above-all immature grow up miss sidra and mr shah now...! and try to present yourself as presented by mr.GUL you are alwayz welcomed for constuctive issues , mr Gul take care |
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