It will lead to a conflict between us and Pakistani establishment as bill passed unaltered.

This bill was even misinterpreted previously.It was presented as an agreement between US and Pakistan.It is not the case .Infact It is advice to US executives from Legislation , the very purpose of which is to ensure that US taxpayers money is being spent on the right place.The expalnatry note states

But those who are criticizing for sake of criticism and political point scoring would fabricate new issues in this bill.I ofetn surprise that almost every one has criticised the bill but few have read it.A majority of peopel do not know its basic purpose.

Here i would like to share some facts regarding the bill.

1-Non military aid is totaly unconditional.

2-If pakistan seek military assistence from US, US Secrteary of State has to satisfy that this money is not being mis-spent.It is nothing to do with Pakistani Govt nor we are being tied in any agreement with US.

3-The both types of aids are mutuly exclusive and govt of pakistan is not binding itself thorugh entering in to agreement with US.For example before release of first tranche of Military aid,US Secretary of State put any condition on Pakistan,Our Govt would not bound to accept it.The maximum outcome may be non reciept of assistance. But that time Pakistan Govt would have negotiation power to reach at acceptable solution.

Keeping the emotional slogans aside, We should realise the ground realities.We are not getting loan but aid from US.Our economy desparatly needs foreign support.This money is not "repayble".So the oppeonents must come out of Political Point Scoring and project the reality before this nation.This money would be used for uplift of poors.(Again ,The money intended for social uplift is with out any condition). Even still thier self respect donot allow them ,then they may advise Govt to refuse Military Aid.But it will hurt their political standing.When national interest would prevail over vested interests?

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please read interview of Shah Mehmood Qureshi regarding this bill. Now the American also said they will not disturb Paki sovereignity.be optimist bro

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Although in all honesty, I have not read the entire document, I know of its basic nature, however, I dont trust US assurances to Pakis regarding the soverignty of Pak being untouched. My points are:

- It doesnt matter if President Obama has signed the bill, even if he didnt, it could still be passed by the legislatures later.

@ Saleeqa Batool

- The point where it delineates that the Secretary for State is supposed to provide an annual report to the Obama administration, ensuring the safety of Pak Nukes, is dangerous to say the least. In order to submit a report, one must first conduct an audit. In order to do that one must have a deep understanding of the Nuclear program, its where-abouts, its future planning etc. Why the hell should Pakistan's Nuclear program be open for foreign inspection? Its a matter of utmost national security. Its like Pakistan demanding to be let-on the Indian nuclear program as a potential victim of its best-known rival. The present government is not to be trusted here because they are playing stooges to US interests. PPP government came into being as a result of a US-PPP deal predating Zardaris arrival on the scene, but which nevetheless strengthened after he arrived. You need to realize the fact that the US would never get straight to the point by outlining their desired goals in the bill. It will have to be cloaked with other more desirable items like developmental programs for the masses.


- The establishment and the Pak Military I assume, will never allow this to happen. The Kerry-Luger bill is a stepping stone for the US to probe into Pakistani establishment sphere. They have much bigger and devastating plans for Pakistan in future but prior to that they need to build a preamble. There were strong rumours a few days back that the President was considering ousting Gen. Kiyani. On the wake of such nation-wide controversy, I assume it was probably relating to this issue only. The reason is simple- the objectives of Pak army and the present government clashing, and the army doesnt like it one bit. So my guess, either the president will be kicked in the rear, or the PPP government as a whole shall be dissolved. In either case, Zardari's days are numbered. No guesses for a coup anytime soon though.

- The time is ticking fast for a direct confrontation of Pak army with US. The establishment is trying to prolong the crisis for as long as it can. But if the Kerry-Luger bill is not implemented in actuality, the US will surely resort to more drastic measures in future, in its struggle to tame Pakistani establishment.

Long live Pakistan.
Death to all other scoundrels, physically and ideologically.

Regards,

Today I have receved an SMS stating that:

""Annual aid of Kerry Lougar Bill 1,500,000,000 $

Total population of Pakistan 160,000,000

Annual aid for each person = 9.38 $

Dollar rate Rs.83

Annual Aid for each person of Pakistan Rs.778.13

Monthly aid for each person of Pakistan Rs.64.84

Daily Aid for each person = Rs.2.09

I think we are able to generate this amount by ourselves... """

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I have read the entire bill and no where in the bill ,Pakistan is required to open its nuclear progremme for inspection.(and no govt can take the risk in presence of such strong media).Yes,it discourage nuclear proliferation ie transmitting nuclear technology to other countries or individuals.

Dear i wana ask few questions from you.

1-Where was Pakistan army when mushraf unconditionaly surrendered before a telephone call of "BUSH" .
2-Have we ever received unconditional aid?Even international lending institution put tough conditions while extending repayable financial facility.Your SBP has been subdued to IMF on the name of autonomy.Is it not a compromise on our sovergjhnty?
3-Being a pakistan, i respect our army as an institution but when it comes to Military Generals ,have they not played havoc with this country.They are solely responsible for our political insatiability. Who is responsible for what we are facing today?Who gifted us Terrorisam, Sectarinsam, Clashankoof Culture and Drug Abuses?
5-WE recived 70 pc of US military aid during military regimes since 1947, have generals not misaappropriated this amount.Why the offsprings of Military Dictators and thier cronies are amongst the most affluents? From where hamayoon Akhtar, Gohar Ayub,Aijaz ul Haq and now Purvez Mushraf collected the wealth?

5-Have we not committed the offence of Nuclear Proleferation before?
4-Can you advise the govt to accept only the Non Military aid that is unconditional?
6-India received US Security assistance in 2007 but with the condition of allowing US defence officials to allow the physical inspection of equipment on regular bases.Is this a compromise on sovereignty by the biggest deomcracy of the world?



Last but not least?Generals are not answerable to any one but politicians are?Democracy is the only way to survival for Pakista.No where in the world angels run the democracies.Deficiencies are found every where?Indian politicians enjoys the same repute as ours but you know where india has reached today? why? because they allowed their Political System to continue.Democracy is not strengthened in a day rather it took decades and even centuries.Thystem has a beauty of built in accountibility. Politicians have to presnt themselves before public on periodic basis. Ihe public some one do not perfor well he will face the public wrath.But only if this system is allowed to continue uninterptidly.

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Dear Miss Saleeqa Batool,

Well i will be commenting on your first point; 1-Where was Pakistan army when mushraf unconditionaly surrendered before a telephone call of "BUSH" .

Have you heard of names of General Mahmood, General Muzaffar and General Aziz?? These were very top generals at the time when musharaf plane was in air seeking mercy of airports to allow it safe landing.. they helped in saving army leadership in 1999 ( here i dont want to run on controversay whether October 1999 was right decision or else). you may try to see their biography in wikipedia, they were against to pakistan's u-turn policy in 2001 and when USA lead forces attacked in afghanistan to hunt down taliban thn these generals resisted and eventually they went home. their resistence made very harsh climate in g.h.q. with their general head musharraf... ........ . you may try to see some things on newspapers of those days. ... never think that army is against Pakistan.....

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@ tabassum : is it the accurate estimate or just a rough one ?

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@ happy ending; this is a fact..... general mahmood ahmed was most powerfull general because he hails from a strong family and very bold person, he took great stand, at that time he was heading i.si.. he and muzaffar went home in a couple of days after US attack to Afghanistan.

some of information can also be glanced from wikipedia;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_Ahmed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzaffar_Usmani

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aziz_Khan_(general)

just try to read last paragraphs, both mahmood and muzaffar went home in 2001 after USA invasion and aziz was made chairman of joint cheifs staff committee, which is a ceremonial position having no powers....

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@Brother TA Awan
Let me set the record straight

During Soveit invasion of Afghanstan a new alliance what is called MULLAH -MIlitary-Amerca alliance was formed.Military-Mullahs waged amercan sponsered JIHAD and earned dollers but at cost of what??? Poisning Pak socity with corruption,Religious extermism and narcotics.Afterwards military remained a dominant player in the political scene.Military Generals conpired to destabilse political set ups.IJI was formed with the ruthless use of Public Money(is it a mandate of BPS 22 Officer?).Political Govt was not allowed to play any rule in the matter relating to national security and foreign policy.

Coming to your point ,i dont know about the generals you have mentioned but they were not sent home rather they got retirment on due date.Yes they were not obliged after retirment( But you might know that close allies of former military dictators at the time of ruining the political system were dealt in the same way as the generals in question).Morever diffrence of three people may be individual differnce not from strong section of Military as institution.These types of diffrences may found in a department or institution.

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