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no dear,urdu is not rich enough...what will you say "Ponstan"in urduhow we can translte a large number of medicine and Engineering books in Urdu?...yes,but we must not neglect urdu..our media should play its role in this regard..
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javed_iqbal7863 (Sunday, May 02, 2010) |
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In Urdu, Ponstan will be called Ponstan. Because, Urdu has ability to absorb the words from other languages, as many other words from the other languages are frequently used in Urdu.. not only our media, according to our circumstances, we all should play role in this regard.. |
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javed_iqbal7863 (Sunday, May 02, 2010) |
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I guess you have never been to the rural areas of Khyber Pakhtunkhaw and Balochistan. A very large number of people there cannot understand Urdu. So, correct yourself. Urdu is not a widely known language in pakistan. Last edited by Andrew Dufresne; Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 10:04 PM. Reason: BBC code |
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javed_iqbal7863 (Sunday, May 02, 2010) |
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Dear! are these words not from Urdu? which are absorbed by English. If there is no proper word in Urdu for a specific term or word from the other languages, then we can pronounce it, as it is. |
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Great discussion And good topic!
But I am really amazed to see people who are having objection on Urdu as our national language. 8% is just a statistical measurement it has nothing to do with understanding of a language. A national language is the one that acts as a means of communication between different provinces and states. If people in far flung areas or villages of Khyber Pakhtoonkhawa and Balochistan are unable to understand Urdu, so what? Urdu is spoken in schools, colleges, universities and mudrassas across the lenghts and breaths of Pakistan. Urdu continues to be the mother tongue of new generation in Urban Punjab. Parents like to speak Urdu rather than Punjabi to their children in cities of Punjab. Secondly, to the objection that Urdu is/was not a language of Muslims, I would like to comment that Urdu still haS much more knowledge of Islam, there are more writings and workings on Islam in URdu than English. Urdu has been the language used by radio Pakistan and PTV right from their inception and the language has been popular among people of the four provinces. Even today, Urdu is the most effective language for mass communication. Most of the TV Channels and News Dailies use Urdu. There are fewer TV Channels and dailies in regional languages than in Urdu that explains the popularity of Urdu among the masses. And if we take into account that statical paraMETER ALONE, Then Punjabi ( the language of 48% Pakistanis) should be the national language, but at the cost of federation of Pakistan. Urdu represents all the four provinces of Pakistan. So, it enjoys the status of national language rightly. |
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javed_iqbal7863 (Sunday, May 02, 2010) |
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Comments on your questions: 1 & 8- there is no such threat to the language because a language which is rich in history,expressions and litrature requires a pro-active compaign against its survival.and we dont see any such pointed conspiracies,or, or we? 2 & 4- we do have man of standind and wisdome who think as well as produce in urdu.but their dilemma lies in three facts: a- we have poor literacy rate b- and the few literate Pakistanies are not fond of reading c- those few who read,read out of fondness for fashion rather than for reading itself,are tending towards english literature. 3- we dont need outsiders for blaming them for spoiling us when we are careless ourselves 5- intentions cannot be known,but what bollywood is doing is rather promoting their own language more than it is having any effect on Urdu.we can see people using Hindi words in communication. 6- couldn't get this point 7- well your initiative in farm of this thread and others' concern is a strong signe that we respect our language 9- how we can promote is the most important issue.there is positive signe in this respect...our high birth rate is prooving as a blessing in disguise,more the speakers of a language,extended would be the life of their language anyhow the serious steps in this respect can be: a- giving attention to liberaries b- reproducing the work of urdu scholars in other languages c- encouraging youngesters by holding urdu essay,poetry,writing etc compititions d- exchanging the urdu books as gifts e- generation of competent teaching faculty for urdu f- our embassies should distribute urdu litrature books with translation to visiters these are few small but interest invoking steps in the desired direction. i ll try to add few more points some other time. regards
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javed_iqbal7863 (Monday, May 03, 2010) |
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Why are literate Pakistani not fond of reading and are fond of English literature? Is Urdu literature not good like as English Literature? Quote:
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would you like to suggest us, how to act upon your suggestions? who will take initiative? we are waiting for your precious suggestions. |
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I never said Punjabi should be the national language. We should follow the Indian example. We can have 7,8 or 10 national languages, thereby satisfying the speakers of all regional languages.
The debate is about what we should do to protect Urdu! And I again say we should not do anything. Language is an evolutionary process. Since Urdu can assimilate words of all languages, it shows that Urdu in itself is nothing but a mixture of other languages (and that exactly is what Urdu means). If it appeals to the masses, it will become lingua franca of the people in Pakistan. Else, it would assume a secondary role in our lives. The very topic of this discussion implies that Urdu is under threat. If Urdu actually had all the qualities mentioned in the paras here, there would have been no need for such topic. |
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javed_iqbal7863 (Monday, May 03, 2010) |
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Majority of the Pakistanis understand Urdu,thatwhy its our national language,,most of the people donot know how to speak or write English,but they are forced to do that even in Baluchistan &Kyber Pakhtoonkhwa..i have never visited these area,but i have met many students from Baluchistan,and khyber Pakhtoonkhwa...
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