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If the source of law is same, God is one and we believe in the finality of the prophet hood and the holy book Quran is same then why are there sects in the religion?

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as it comes in quran that we give birth all humans as a muslim, later on they are made jews, christians etc...
similarly: we all are muslims (LA ILAHA ILLULLAHO MUHAMMAD UR RASOOL ALLAH) but this differencing is because of non-muslim propagandas
if we look in history.. at time of hazrat usman's (R.A) martyr, he said. not to harm him else wise you wont be ever able to offer your prayer in same lines...
now comes logic: as he said it, we all know later on hazrat ali (R.A) faced same problems on matter of kasas, and so it went on... different groups started to develop... enemy of islam got chance to put people of their own who wanted worldly life rather than after death, for minor money they sold their faiths, helped enemy against islam. propagandas + internal power disputes + human selfishness etc.. created these sects.

now thing is which sect is right!!??

sunni! shia! barailwi! ehl-e-hadis! ahemdi!! etc????????????????

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prophet muhammad (S.A.W) clearly said there will be about 72 sects of islam before the day of judgement, but only one will go to heaven..

which sect is it??!!!

there is no GOD but ALLAH, and he is most benefecient and merciful and his qualified names are true
MUHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) is his man and his LAST prophet (the regime/authority of other prophets have been canceled)
there were holy books before holy quran as well
there are angels as well (a light made creatures)
day of resurrection is true
bad and good fate exist (but true dua can be helpful)
life after death is real

different imams used different ways to perform namaz. all are correct in nature when it is purely for ALLAH and not any humanly intrusion is made.
and is obligatory
zakat, hajj, fasting of ramadan is compulsory to those who have ability to perform
jehad is compulsory (as my personal research- it is compulsory when our leader/caliph orders it)

haqooq allah, haqoq ul abad, and haqooq ul makhloqat is necessary to understand for becoming better muslim..

now this is my standard/perception/research....

so what am i?? SUNNI/ SHIA / EHL_E_HADIS/ AHMEDI ????????

u say what am i???

i know only one thing.. i am alhumdolilah MUSLIM.. inshalah will die like one..

PEOPLE MAKE SECTS NOT GOD

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Our society is totally burried in the sectarianism. Ulema are terming each other infidels. Every sect's scholar says that they are right. Ahmedis say that they are following the real teachings of Islam. Furthermore, Shia are being termed Kafir. Pathetic situation (
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Anybody has the knowledge regarding the number of of sects in Islam and their names ?
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What are these 73 Sects?


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I want to share this beautifuly written piece of article on this topic. Which I happend to read today


The motive of this post is not to highlight a certain sect but to believe in Tauheed ‘oneness’ of Allah subhanawatallah and the significance on standing united in faith rather then divided in sects.

The Glorious Quran says in Surah Ash-Shura, Chapter #42, Verse #13

The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah – the which We have sent by inspiration to thee – and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).
So the verse says all prophets had the same religion from Noah to Muhammad and its common knowledge for a Muslim that even Adam (AS) was also Muslim. Never have I read anywhere any of the prophets saying we are sunni, we are shia, we are hanafi, we are maliki, we are ahlay hadees. But all the prophet were Muslim.
It is further said in Surah Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #64)

say:”O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.” If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will).

Here Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala tells you to say to come to common terms. Not saying that Maliki’s do this, so they are not Muslims and Sunni’s have done this and Shia’s do that. The concept of sect does not even exist in Islam.

If someone were to question our beloved Prophet (pbuh) that who are you.
What did he say ?
Did he say I am hanafi or a sunni or a shia or a maliki or a Ahlay Hadees.
No, He said I am a Muslim but Allah in his divine knowledge knew that people are going to make sects and divide the religion into parts making a mockery out of the religion so Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala says inSurah Al-Anaam Chapter 6 Verse Number 159

As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala says this 1400 years ago even before this concept of sect arrived that people who make sects Prophet Muhammad (Saaw) has nothing to do with them. The messenger that came with the message of Islam has been told not to do anything with people such as we see today that have divided the religion into sects.

And today exactly the same thing has happened which Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala says in Surah Al-Mumenoon, Chapter 23 verse 53

But people have cut off their affair (of unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself.

This is what we see today, every Sunni saying he or she is on the right path and others are wrong. Every Shia saying he or she is on the right path and others are wrong and others doing the same. Where it is clearly said in the Glorious Quran not to make sects. We see the unity the muslims had in the time of our beloved Prophet is not here today. Muslims killing Muslims and the Sunni Shia warfare. Why ?

An answers that come to my mind is lack of knowledge. No Aalim or the biggest scholar in the world can argue with the teachings of the Glorious Quran because it is the word of Almighty God without a doubt. It says in Surah An-Nisa, Chapter 4 Verse 82
Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.
So being born in a Sunni family or a Shia family or any other sect does not mean you a sunni or a shia. You still make that choice and Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala has said this is lots of places not to make sects it says in Surah Ar-Room Chapter 60 Verse 31 and 32

Turn ye back in repentance to Him, and fear Him: establish regular dprayers, and be not ye among those who join gods with Allah,- Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!
You are told not to join partners with Allah Subhana Wa Ta Aala and not to make sects. This is how strictly it is forbidden and yet we see no less than 72 sects.

It says in Surah Hud Chapter 11 verse Number 17

Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!

The punishment for believing in sects is burning in hell.
It says in no less that 6 places, not to make sects and divide the religion
I question any Muslim out there, is there any Imaam any Shaikh or any Aalim who can disagree with this. Then why are they making sects in Islam.
Making sects in Islam is Haram and is biddat.

I question you, after reading this what do you call yourself. I am not of any sect and am proud to call myself a Muslim





Last island wrote: Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 171, Narrated by Abdullah ibn Amr

Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: There will befall my Ummah exactly (all those) evils which befell the people of Isra'il, so much so that if there was one amongst them who openly committed fornication with his mother there will be among my Ummah one who will do that, and if the people of Isra'il were fragmented into seventy-two sects my Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three sects. All of them will be in Hell Fire except one sect. They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, which is that? Whereupon he said: It is one to which I and my companions belong.

I couldnt understand it,I have 2 questions to ask.

If 73 sects are predestined then what is use of condemning them?

Can we undo this by making them united in one muslim community?

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Cool Dear Shameel! please correct this one

You said which sect is right, and you include ahmadi as sect, while ahmadi is not sect of Islam, this is totally diffrent religion,
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The 73 Sects I posed yesterday kept me confused the whole day for many reasons. Why only Hanafiyah was mentioned and other 3 school of thoughts were ignored when they too belong to Sunni sect? Ahl-e-hadith and Shites had no place in the list whereas non-Islamic Ahmediyah Sect was listed as 73rd sect. At the end of the day, I discovered that the list was infact a compilation of Qadiyanis and they so tactfully made it public on a number of Islamic sites that it is almost impossible for Muslims with limited knowledge to figure out. The list has been removed. I apologize for the post I made though ignorantly and unwittingly. I have found a real division of sects and groups that will be posted soon.
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The 73 Sects I posed yesterday kept me confused the whole day for many reasons. Why only Hanafiyah was mentioned and other 3 school of thoughts were ignored when they too belong to Sunni sect? Ahl-e-hadith and Shites had no place in the list whereas non-Islamic Ahmediyah Sect was listed as 73rd sect. At the end of the day, I discovered that the list was infact a compilation of Qadiyanis and they so tactfully made it public on a number of Islamic sites that it is almost impossible for Muslims with limited knowledge to figure out. The list has been removed. I apologize for the post I made though ignorantly and unwittingly. I have found a real division of sects and groups that will be posted soon.
Dear I have googled this following link. It may help all of us.

http://www.real-islam.org/73_8.htm
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This is the same list I posted yesterday. The list has 72 sects and Ahmedis are excluded.
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