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Xeric Friday, October 01, 2010 01:21 PM

Why are we becoming violent nation?
 
Anchor persons of renowned TV channels who guise themselves as 'Ameeru-ul-Momineens' and angels are trying to collapse the current legitimate institutions of the country. What else is revolution, I think the biggest change was the expulsion of notorious dictator "General Musharaf" from the country and setting the democratic rule again on track.

Through the sensational news and discussions of media, masses are becoming violent and going for Civil Disobedience to boycott the electricity bills, Sialkot issues and similar other incidents are linked with this concept. An organized conspiracy is underway to undermine the democracy in the country and paving the way for undemocratic forces to capture the reins of power intentionally or unintentionally.
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Invincible Friday, October 01, 2010 01:36 PM

Entourage of our politicians
 
[B]Dear,watch this video, you will come to know causes of people frustration.[/B]

[B][U][SIZE="4"]KING ZARDARI ON HIS WAY[/SIZE][/U][/B]

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Xeric Friday, October 01, 2010 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=Invincible;216719][B]Dear,watch this video, you will come to know causes of people frustration.[/B]

[B][U][SIZE="4"]KING ZARDARI ON HIS WAY[/SIZE][/U][/B]
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Come on dude !! don't be so personal. Why the elected president is so hated by the undemocratic forces. Security of President is laid down in Blue Book and law enforcement agencies are bound to act upon Blue Book for the protection of President. It is not president to direct the administration that 80 vehicles should be there in his motorcade rather its written code to ensure security of VVIPS. You can't watch out videos of motorcades of Obama, Indian VVIPS and of other democratic countries which have similar arrangements.

Riazuddin Friday, October 01, 2010 03:31 PM

He could easily and safely travel with 1/4th of this security, this is absolutely a waste of public resources and offcourse causing a sheer inconvenience to others on the roads. I hope he will be spanked really hard one day for this "fironiat", whether or not in this world.

venom Friday, October 01, 2010 03:44 PM

Senior member crown prince
 
Senior member crown prince you are right that Normally we take things so much personnel . It is in general.
There isn't any thing wrong with president's protocol but we desire that he have to live an ordinary life like with so big responsibility, may be there are ethical objections that countries like us are not in position to afford such luxury,
but it is an old tradition which is developed because of those incidents which happened with the past premiers.
And it is not the only president who have so super protocol, then what are the reasons only to make objection's for him.??

sillent.killer Friday, October 01, 2010 05:15 PM

you all right on u are views but what think our leader's about us in my thought we are the masks of gold there is no price for it so how we belive that our leader's are right and they are doing some thing for us my foot it is my Pray to God make them as us then they know what are we,,,,,

rainy... Friday, October 01, 2010 11:37 PM

i don't think Musharraf was expelled from this country....Power has transferred from one intruder to another but i don't blame such people bcz we deserve them....

everyday there is a new explosion....a new insult is waiting for us each day...
each dawn brings another hardship....
and it will continue to be so till we decide to change ourselves....

[quote]hamari jaisi awaam ko zardari jaisay hukmaraan hi raas aatay hain....hum jaison ko Umer farooq(R.A) jaisay hukmraan nahi mil saktay....[/quote]

Invincible Saturday, October 02, 2010 01:57 PM

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[B]Well, I cant be fooled on the name of so-called democracy by those perverted politicians who are eating pakistan just like the white ants eat the wood. Just see his assets and taxes he pays to this country. I always go with facts not emotions :nono.

Asif Zardari’s Assets in Pakistan & Abroad

ZARDARI’S LOCAL ASSETS ARE:

Plot no. 121, Phase VIII, DHA Karachi.
Agricultural land situated in Deh Dali Wadi, Taluka, Tando Allah Yar.
Agricultural property located in Deh Tahooki Taluka, District Hyderabad measuring 65.15 acres.
Agricultural land falling in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 827.14 acres
Agricultural land situated in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 293.18 acres
Residential plot No 3 (Now House) Block No B-I, City Survey No 2268 Ward-A Nawabshah
Huma Heights (Asif Apartments) 133, Depot Lines, Commissariat Road, Karachi
Trade Tower Building 3/CL/V Abdullah Haroon Road, Karachi
House No 8, St 9, F-8/2, Islamabad
Agricultural land in Deh 42 Dad Taluka/ District Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh 51 Dad Taluka Distt Nawabshah
Plot No 3 & 4 Sikni (residential) Near Housing Society Ltd. Nawabshah
CafT Sheraz (C.S No.. 2231/2 & 2231/3) Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh 23-Deh Taluka & District Nawabshah
Agricultural property in Deh 72-A, Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh 76-Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
Plot No. A/136 Survey No 2346 Ward A Government Employee’s Cooperative Housing Society Ltd, Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh Jaryoon Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Aroro Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Nondani Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Lotko Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Jhol Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Kandari Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Deghi Taluka Tando Mohammad Khan
Agricultural land in Deh Rahooki Taluka, Hyderabad
Property in Deh Charo Taluka, Badin
Agricultural property in Deh Dali Wadi Taluka, Hyderabad
Five acres prime land allotted by DG KDA in 1995/96
4,000 kanals on Simli Dam
80 acres of land at Hawkes Bay
13 acres of land at Maj Gulradi (KPT Land)
One acre plot, GCI, Clifton
One acre of land, State Life (International Center, Sadar)
FEBCs worth Rs. 4 million
SHARES IN SUGAR MILLS INCLUDE:

Sakrand Sugar Mills Nawabshah
Ansari Sugar
Mills Hyderabad
Mirza Sugar Mills Badin
Pangrio Sugar Mills Thatta
Bachani Sugar Mills Sanghar
FRONT COMPANIES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES:

Bomer Fiannce Inc, British Virgin Islands
Mariston Securities Inc, British Virgin Islands
Marleton Business S A, British Virgin Islands
Capricorn Trading S A, British Virgin Islands
Fagarita Consulting INc, British Virgin Islands
Marvil Associated Inc, British Virgin Islands
Pawnbury Finance Ltd, British Virgin Islands
Oxton Trading Limited, British Virgin Islands
Brinslen Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
Chimitex Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
Elkins Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
Minister Invest Ltd, British Virgin Islands
Silvernut Investment Inc, British Virgin Islands
Tacolen Investment Ltd, British Virgin Islands
Marlcrdon Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
Dustan Trading Inc, British Virgin Islands
Reconstruction and Development Finance Inc, British Virgin Islands
Nassam Alexander Inc.
Westminster Securities Inc.
Laptworth Investment Inc 202, Saint Martin Drive, West Jacksonville
Intra Foods Inc. 3376, Lomrel Grove, Jacksonville, Florida
Dynatel Trading Co, Florida
A..S Realty Inc. Palm Beach Gardens Florida
Bon Voyage Travel Consultancy Inc, Florida
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN UK ARE:

355 acre Rockwood Estate, Surrey (Now stands admitted)
Flat 6, 11 Queensgate Terrace, London SW7
26 Palace Mansions, Hammersmith Road, London W14
27 Pont Street, London, SW1
20 Wilton Crescent, London SW1
23 Lord Chancellor Walk, Coombe Hill, Kingston, Surrey
The Mansion, Warren Lane, West Hampstead, London
A flat at Queensgate Terrace, London
Houses at Hammersmith Road, Wilton Crescent, Kingston and in Hampstead.
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN BELGIUM ARE:

12-3 Boulevard De-Nieuport, 1000, Brussels, (Building containing 4 shops and 2 large apartments)
Chausee De-Mons, 1670, Brussels
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN FRANCE ARE:

La Manoir De La Reine Blanche and property in Cannes
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN USA — in the name of Asif Zardari and managed by Shimmy Qureshi are:

Stud farm in Texas
Wellington Club East, West Palm Beach
12165 West Forest Hills, Florida
Escue Farm 13,524 India Mound, West Palm Beach
3,220 Santa Barbara Drive, Wellington Florida
13,254 Polo Club Road, West Palm Beach Florida
3,000 North Ocean Drive, Singer Islands, Florida
525 South Flager Driver, West Palm Beach, Florida
Holiday Inn Houston Owned by Asif Ali Zardari, Iqbal Memon and Sadar-ud-Din Hashwani
ZARDARI’S BANK ACCOUNTS IN FOREGN COMPANIES ARE:

Union Bank of Switzerland (Account No. 552.343, 257.556.60Q, 433.142.60V, 216.393.60T)
Citibank Private Limited (SWZ) (Account No. 342034)
Citibank N A Dubai (Account No. 818097)
Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62290209)
Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62274400)
Banque Centrade Ormard Burrus S A
Banque Pache S A
Banque Pictet & Cie
Banque La Henin, Paris (Account No. 00101953552)
Bank Natinede Paris in Geneva (Account NO.. 563.726.9)
Swiss Bank Corporation
Chase Manhattan Bank Switzerland
American Express Bank Switzerland
Societe De Banque Swissee
Barclays Bank (Knightsbridge Branch) (Account No. 90991473)
Barclays Bank, Kingston and Chelsea Branch, (Sort Code 20-47-34135)
National Westminster Bank, Alwych Branch (Account No. 9683230)
Habib Bank (Pall Mall Branch).
National Westminster Bank, Barking Branch, (Account No. 28558999).
Habib Bank AG, Moorgate, London EC2
National Westminster Bank, Edgware Road, London
Banque Financiei E Dela Citee, Credit Suisse
Habib Bank AG Zurich, Switzerland
Pictet Et Cie, Geneva
Credit Agricole, Paris
Credit Agridolf, Branch 11, Place Brevier, 76440, Forges Les Faux
Credit Agricole, Branch Haute – Normandie, 76230, Boise Chillaum

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umarabbas Saturday, October 02, 2010 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=Crown Prince;216731]Come on dude !! don't be so personal. Why the elected president is so hated by the undemocratic forces. Security of President is laid down in Blue Book and law enforcement agencies are bound to act upon Blue Book for the protection of President. It is not president to direct the administration that 80 vehicles should be there in his motorcade rather its written code to ensure security of VVIPS. You can't watch out videos of motorcades of Obama, Indian VVIPS and of other democratic countries which have similar arrangements.[/QUOTE]

Sounds funny seriously...you comparing Zardari with Obama and Indian VVIPs. they all may be able to afford all this pomp and show but we can't. Remember Obama gives us a [B]Pocket Money to Run our Country[/B]. So we can't show extravagance like him. in fact we can but we shouldn't!!

Xeric Saturday, October 02, 2010 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=umarabbas;216992]Sounds funny seriously...you comparing Zardari with Obama and Indian VVIPs. they all may be able to afford all this pomp and show but we can't. Remember Obama gives us a [B]Pocket Money to Run our Country[/B]. So we can't show extravagance like him. in fact we can but we shouldn't!![/QUOTE]

I am comparing them as heads of states and governments of democratic countries. Pervez Musharaf was not a legitimate head of state but he had three motorcades. What you then if our country is poor then President should ride on motorcycle or in auto rickshaw ?

It is a fact that we are not able to utilize our natural resource and rely on foreign add but do remember Pakistan is an influential country in the world and nuclear state as well. It is a fact that beggars are not choosers but it is not a 'Kherat' at all instead it is the price paid to us for our sacrifices and involvement in their war which is nothing as compared to losses.

@Invincible,

These all charges are not proved in the courts and President spent many precious years of his life in prison due to political victimization. These things are used as political victimization and blackmailing. This thread was about increasing violence in the country not to discuss the character of President. :nono


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