Good Show by Imran Khan in Peshawar
 

PTI is holding a sit-in against drone attacks in Peshawar and as per TV reports it is a successful show so far. Leaders from other political parties are reaching there to show the soliderity with the victims of these attacks in FATA and KP areas. It seems that Khan has started his election campagine from Peshawar and is getting much popular support from the people there.
I think the PPP and ANP must be worried to see a new force in KP that can eat up their vote bank in next election. :pp

yup... a good and successful show. apart from politics, drones should be condemned, they kill innocent people and we keep silence on whatever US do. but my political insight says that it is not Imran Khan who is going to win in the upcoming elections. PTI is still one man party while PPP, ANP have sound bases in the country, so long way to go for Imran Khan. but i still wish luck to him If and only If He does what he says.....

1 - If you think he blocked the supplies, you are wrong; There are alternative routes which are not much far away from the road they blocked. I don't know why the media says that the supplies were blocked because of him, LOL.

2 - Access to some universities is also blocked by blocking the road they have blocked, students must be very happy (My friends were, at least)

3 - If you read the article regarding PTI sitting, it clearly says that the locals say that drones "SOMETIMES" kill innocent people, it means that most of the times it kills terrorists and target(s).

4 - USA might give some drones to Pakistan (Which can be useful for Pakistan)

5 - The tribal people are not really "INNOCENT". You have No Idea what happens in those areas. People are kidnapped and taken their and released after ransom money is paid, chars & heroin & Sharab (alcohol) are openly sold in tribal areas and all types of illegal things happen there

6 - The above (point 5) is not possible without local support, Also, If they allow terrorists and Tehrik-i-taliban and other groups to live in their areas, they should expect being hit as friend of an enemy is also an enemy

[B]A Question : Why did imran khan called everyone in a hot summer day and made them wait in that hot weather while he himself came at night ? [/B]

We should not get emotional and should know that drones have successfully eliminated targets which pak army could NEVER have eliminated. I know some innocent people die, but again I don't think they are really innocent as they support them and give them (terrorists) places to hide and stay. I only feel sorry for children and women that die in this (however, their women are completely involved in what they do)

@ mukt
well i totally diagree with ur ideas n condemn ur selection of words regarding tribal ppl...
first the main aim of sit-in by PTI like any othr protest is to convey the message at national and international level that Pakistani nation is against drone attacks..yes terrorists are eliminated in such attacks but as a result of colateral damage,,alot more are prepared to replace the eliminated ones.many US n Pak army reports confirmd dis fact time and again...
second who told u dat they r supportng terrorsts...i think u dnt even knw da abc of whts happening right thr.study da era of cold war bw russia n america n russian army incursion into afghanistan,u will come 2 knw who supported the today's terrorists n the so calld jehadis of dat era.the ppl of fata r sufferng both at the hands of terrorists as well as our army..dollars were recieved in the past and still are being recieved at the cost of tribal blood...tribals fought the war of Pak in kashmir in 1948 and frm 60 years that area remaind da most deprived one yet tribals never raise a voice against pak....
thirdly the illegal things whch accrdng to u (nt in reality) r found only thr?wht abt karachi whr killing,kidnapng n thngs like dat r a common phenomena.similarly wht abt lah whr prostitutn rings r quite common n every body knws abt it..wht abt the big hotels of every major city of pak teeming with alcoholic brands open fr every one...in da light of above facts should v give America free hand to bomb whole pak?
n as far as Imran khan is concernd, i salute him for his courageous n bold decision of sitting in a demonstration against the present slave govrmnt on a national issue with da public openly and in a terrorist hit province without thinkng of the risks to his life while all the othr party leaders n his contemporaries are hidding in their palaces like cowards...peace

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n as far as Imran khan is concernd, i salute him for his courageous n bold decision of sitting in a demonstration against the present slave govrmnt on a national issue with da public openly and in a terrorist hit province without thinkng of the risks to his life while all the othr party leaders n his contemporaries are hidding in their palaces like cowards...peace[/QUOTE]


bro i disagree wth u when u call ths joker a courageous (sorry to say to all the fans out there).. he was the first one to raise voice in support of musharaf when mushy tk over.. he's nothing bt puppet of ghosts (establishment), his voice is nothing bt the msg of ghosts, his courage is nothing bt the surety given by ghosts tht nothing will hppn to u while performing the drama so openly.. time n agn i kp telling u nice guys bt u forget vry soon:cry.. dearos he's nothing bt a puppet of establishment.. observe him for sometimes u guys wud realize.. now when he's puppet of establishment hw do u expect k anything can happen to him.. nah nvr.. actually this all sitting of khan saab is nothing bt its something tht ghosts cant do at their own so openly thts why khan saab is being used.. thts it!

(the web masters, pls let it go published ths tym.. i dont knw why my posts gt vanished whenevr i type smthng for khan saab)

[QUOTE=polaris;293070]bro i disagree wth u when u call ths joker a courageous (sorry to say to all the fans out there).. he was the first one to raise voice in support of musharaf when mushy tk over.. he's nothing bt puppet of ghosts (establishment), his voice is nothing bt the msg of ghosts, his courage is nothing bt the surety given by ghosts tht nothing will hppn to u while performing the drama so openly.. time n agn i kp telling u nice guys bt u forget vry soon:cry.. dearos he's nothing bt a puppet of establishment.. observe him for sometimes u guys wud realize.. now when he's puppet of establishment hw do u expect k anything can happen to him.. nah nvr.. actually this all sitting of khan saab is nothing bt its something tht ghosts cant do at their own so openly thts why khan saab is being used.. thts it!
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No one is angel in Pakistani politics . we have to choose the best among them.
Regarding ur point that he is first supporter of P. Musharraf. i wanna informed that he had already oppologized to nation for this.He is the voice of new Pakistan.we should support his cause because its a national cause.

[QUOTE=hamarapakistan;293073]No one is angel in Pakistani politics . we have to choose the best among them.
Regarding ur point that he is first supporter of P. Musharraf. i wanna informed that he had already oppologized to nation for this.He is the voice of new Pakistan.we should support his cause because its a national cause.[/QUOTE]

[B][I]Well indeed he is better choice among what we have.
He needs to be supported and strengthened.
And more and more people are gathering round him especially the youth.[/I][/B]

Imran Khan is the best.He is a real crowd puller.Go man,we are with you.

@polaris
brotha politicians r also human beings..ven musharraf stepped in,imran khan indeed showed his likeness fr him n so as the majority of othr politicians n the nation too..this ws mainly due to the 8 or 7 point agenda musharaf placed infront of nation which included steps to curb corruption n other core issues...bt later when he deviated frm his proposed agenda n denied to step down which he had promised to the nation,Imran khan wz da one who criticizd him da most n he had to go behind the bars...furthr its also a fact that musharaf offered him premiership bt he refused.....

i m nt here to plead anyone's case bt the thing is v shld undrstnd who is doing right thng n who deserves our vote n praise....if sm 1 speaks right thng n 4 da bettrmnt of nation (even on establshmnts behalf) v shld praise it......javed hashmi is anothr leader who speaks 4 the nation n has been kept in dark by his party even he sacrificed the most....

[QUOTE][B]Originally Posted by polaris [/B]
he was the first one to raise voice in support of musharaf when mushy tk over.. [/QUOTE]

As far as his initial support for musharraf is concerned then let me tell you that we all were happy when Musharraf imposed martial law. But we did not know that he will do whatever he did during his regime. I do not want to mention all those things here.

We will also support ashfaq parvaiz kiyani if he imposes martial law and send these currupt politicians to prison.

We all were also happy when current govt took the charge. They use to say that they have been sent to parliament by us. But they do not ask that what our opinion is now for them. We elected them for betterment but they have ruined our country.

So we just need sincere leader and everytime we hope for the best but we have come accross only currupt leaders. We want to check Imran khan because we think that he is a sincere person or less currupt person.

[QUOTE=mukt;292922]1 - If you think he blocked the supplies, you are wrong; There are alternative routes which are not much far away from the road they blocked. I don't know why the media says that the supplies were blocked because of him, LOL.
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[SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]The purpose of blockage is to record protest not in actual block the supplies...[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mukt;292922]2 - Access to some universities is also blocked by blocking the road they have blocked, students must be very happy (My friends were, at least)[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]If there are alternative routes to nato supplies. Then these alternative routes can also be used to approach universities:thinking
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[QUOTE=mukt;292922]3 - If you read the article regarding PTI sitting, it clearly says that the locals say that drones "SOMETIMES" kill innocent people, it means that most of the times it kills terrorists and target(s).[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Pakistan has already recorded protest against drone attacks and demanded on international level to stop it. But America clearly refused to do so. drone attack is a direct attack on Pakistan's sovereignty, whether it is useful in killing terrorists or harmful.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mukt;292922]4 - USA might give some drones to Pakistan (Which can be useful for Pakistan)[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Pakistan should not sell its sovereignty just in return of some drones...
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[QUOTE=mukt;292922]5 - The tribal people are not really "INNOCENT". You have No Idea what happens in those areas. People are kidnapped and taken their and released after ransom money is paid, chars & heroin & Sharab (alcohol) are openly sold in tribal areas and all types of illegal things happen there[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]No one in Pakistan is innocent. chars & heroin & sharab are common in all major cities of Pakistan and every one knows about it.
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[QUOTE=mukt;292922]6 - The above (point 5) is not possible without local support, Also, If they allow terrorists and Tehrik-i-taliban and other groups to live in their areas, they should expect being hit as friend of an enemy is also an enemy[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]Please try to have a deep look in history of these tribal areas before making such statements.[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mukt;292922][B]A Question : Why did imran khan called everyone in a hot summer day and made them wait in that hot weather while he himself came at night ? [/B][/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]No one is perfect. Who in Pakistan is Punctual?[/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=mukt;292922]We should not get emotional and should know that drones have successfully eliminated targets which pak army could NEVER have eliminated. I know some innocent people die, but again I don't think they are really innocent as they support them and give them (terrorists) places to hide and stay. I only feel sorry for children and women that die in this (however, their women are completely involved in what they do)[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="2"]Thank God you at least feel sorry for some one. But drones are now a matter of Pakistan's sovereignty. Nations must take care of it. [/SIZE][/FONT][/I][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=polaris;293070]bro i disagree wth u when u call ths joker a courageous (sorry to say to all the fans out there).. he was the first one to raise voice in support of musharaf when mushy tk over.. he's nothing bt puppet of ghosts (establishment), his voice is nothing bt the msg of ghosts, his courage is nothing bt the surety given by ghosts tht nothing will hppn to u while performing the drama so openly.. time n agn i kp telling u nice guys bt u forget vry soon:cry.. dearos he's nothing bt a puppet of establishment.. observe him for sometimes u guys wud realize.. now when he's puppet of establishment hw do u expect k anything can happen to him.. nah nvr.. actually this all sitting of khan saab is nothing bt its something tht ghosts cant do at their own so openly thts why khan saab is being used.. thts it!

(the web masters, pls let it go published ths tym.. i dont knw why my posts gt vanished whenevr i type smthng for khan saab)[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]i would just say... web masters are right in deleting yours posts regarding Khan sahab[/FONT][/I][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Ultimate CSP;293108]i would just say... web masters are right in deleting yours posts regarding Khan sahab[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][/FONT][/I][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]


khan saaaaaaaab ap ko salam bhai.. kia jaadu kia hy ap ney logo py.. meine kia ap ke barey main thorey sey apney comments diye, yahan log tu baras he parey mujh pe.. wah khan jee wah.. u hv really won the votes, at least some of this forum's members..
so u want my posts to be deleted...!! is it fair..?? is it democracy? is it freedom of expression? ab sb jo favour kareingy... koi tu hona chahiye na khan saab ki opposition main...!!

[QUOTE=polaris;293190]khan saaaaaaaab ap ko salam bhai.. kia jaadu kia hy ap ney logo py.. meine kia ap ke barey main thorey sey apney comments diye, yahan log tu baras he parey mujh pe.. wah khan jee wah.. u hv really won the votes, at least some of this forum's members..
so u want my posts to be deleted...!! is it fair..?? is it democracy? is it freedom of expression? ab sb jo favour kareingy... koi tu hona chahiye na khan saab ki opposition main...!![/QUOTE]

you really have freedom of expression dear. but just try one thing that your words should not hurt the sentiments of fans of heroes.... in fact its our birth right to choose our own hero.. he may be a JOKER for you... but he is a hero for many of us. so always try to avoid GHAIR PARLIMANI guftagu.....

[QUOTE=jiashah;293193]you really have freedom of expression dear. but just try one thing that your words should not hurt the sentiments of fans of heroes.... in fact its our birth right to choose our own hero.. he may be a JOKER for you... but he is a hero for many of us. so always try to avoid GHAIR PARLIMANI guftagu.....[/QUOTE]


how nicely put..!! thanx..!! if it's hurting someone's sentiments i promise i wont repeat it agn..! tc:

[QUOTE=Ultimate CSP;293107][COLOR=purple][I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=2]But drones are now a matter of Pakistan's sovereignty. Nations must take care of it. [/SIZE][/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Yes, a nation must take care of its sovereignty, even if it needs "foreign assistance" to buildup "schools" :ninja:. Hum koi aise taise fakeer thori hain, buhut moaziz hain, dunya main hamari izzat hai :dd.

[QUOTE=jiashah;293193]you really have freedom of expression dear. but just try one thing that your words should not hurt the sentiments of fans of heroes.... in fact its our birth right to choose our own hero.. he may be a JOKER for you... but he is a hero for many of us. so always try to avoid GHAIR PARLIMANI guftagu.....[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="3"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]absolutely tight....[/FONT][/I][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;293199]Yes, a nation must take care of its sovereignty, even if it needs "foreign assistance" to buildup "schools" :ninja:. Hum koi aise taise fakeer thori hain, buhut moaziz hain, dunya main hamari izzat hai :dd.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="3"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Purple"][I]ab aise hi hae tou kya karian...:cry[/I][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

Good initiate by Imran khan against the drones and proved himself as a great and courageous leader by sitting in a demonstration in peshawar,the most targeted city...always with you.

[QUOTE=Ultimate CSP;293107][SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]The purpose of blockage is to record protest not in actual block the supplies...[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

I never said and/or commented on that, you misquoted me. I said I don't know why is the media saying that it was because imran khan that the supplies were blocked.



[quote][COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]If there are alternative routes to nato supplies. Then these alternative routes can also be used to approach universities:thinking
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Of course, when did I disagreed? But why don't you explain that to university administration because I know some university that declared holiday on Saturday just because of this .. so the damage was done :)


[quote][SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Pakistan has already recorded protest against drone attacks and demanded on international level to stop it. But America clearly refused to do so. drone attack is a direct attack on Pakistan's sovereignty, whether it is useful in killing terrorists or harmful.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

haha you just proved yourself wrong and imran khan a hypocrite. Think about what you said again buddy ;) If Pakistan recorded its protest on international level and yet americans refused, what on earth makes you think that a few thousand people in peshawar shouting and chanting will make americans do what they don't want to do? hahahahah Imran khan was only trying to do all that for political gains, nothing else.

Also, it is not threatening pakistan sovereignty because it happens with the permission of pakistani gov and army, what they do in front of the media & public is only a drama (or so do I think, I can be wrong) :)



[quote][SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Pakistan should not sell its sovereignty just in return of some drones...
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where did I said it should?


[quote][COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]No one in Pakistan is innocent. chars & heroin & sharab are common in all major cities of Pakistan and every one knows about it.
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Please mention areas in lahore, karachi & Islamabad where chars/heroin is sold openly in market? If you fail to do so, then come to peshawar, give me a call and I will physically take you to places where guns, chars, heroin and all things (smuggled) are for sale openly and it starts right from the tribal areas where the border ends


[quote][SIZE="2"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]Please try to have a deep look in history of these tribal areas before making such statements.[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

I don't need to read history when everything is so open and clear



[quote][COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]No one is perfect. Who in Pakistan is Punctual?[/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/quote]

Exactly. No one is perfect, everyone is corrupt and those who have not done corruption is not because they are not corrupt but because they have not got a chance yet. Imran khan changed color like a girgit before coming into power, i wonder what he will do once he come into power lol



[quote][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="2"]Thank God you at least feel sorry for some one. But drones are now a matter of Pakistan's sovereignty. Nations must take care of it. [/SIZE][/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/quote]

If that makes you happy, so be it.



[quote][COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="2"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]i would just say... web masters are right in deleting yours posts regarding Khan sahab[/FONT][/I][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

When did they deleted it? I never noticed it. Khan sahab is not an angel from heaven, he is a human like you and me and no better than other politicians.

[QUOTE=R3b3l;293062]@ mukt
well i totally diagree with ur ideas n condemn ur selection of words regarding tribal ppl...[/quote]

You reserve complete right to agree and/or disagree with whatever I or anyone else on earth say/do.

[quote]first the main aim of sit-in by PTI like any othr protest is to convey the message at national and international level that Pakistani nation is against drone attacks..[/quote]

If that's the case, then the International community already knows this; Imran khan needed not to do it, the international community is not sleeping :)

[quote]yes terrorists are eliminated in such attacks but as a result of colateral damage,,alot more are prepared to replace the eliminated ones.many US n Pak army reports confirmd dis fact time and again...[/quote]

so what do you mean by this? People will come and hit you and rip you off and you won't do anything because you will fear of more and more people being prepared for attack(s)? Then why not wear bangles and sit in home?

[quote]second who told u dat they r supportng terrorsts...i think u dnt even knw da abc of whts happening right thr.study da era of cold war bw russia n america n russian army incursion into afghanistan,u will come 2 knw who supported the today's terrorists n the so calld jehadis of dat era.the ppl of fata r sufferng both at the hands of terrorists as well as our army..dollars were recieved in the past and still are being recieved at the cost of tribal blood...tribals fought the war of Pak in kashmir in 1948 and frm 60 years that area remaind da most deprived one yet tribals never raise a voice against pak....[/quote]

America has a habit of using people and then forgetting them. I know american CIA and ISI supported taliban and created them, so what? What is your point? and tribal areas are supporting terrorists, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[quote]I dongal things whch accrdng to u (nt in reality) r found only thr?wht abt karachi whr killing,kidnapng n thngs like dat r a common phenomena.similarly wht abt lah whr prostitutn rings r quite common n every body knws abt it..wht abt the big hotels of every major city of pak teeming with alcoholic brands open fr every one...in da light of above facts should v give America free hand to bomb whole pak?[/quote]

I never said the only wrong things happen in tribal areas, but most of them do. My own cousin was kidnapped and taken to tribal areas, he was released after a ransom of 4.5 million PKR was payed. In peshawar, 99.9% kidnappings are arranged by the people of tribal areas, It's a safe heaven for the kidnappers.

The tribal people are involved in this, they keep the kidnapped victim for them and take some amount from the ransom money, if ransom is not paid, they just kill the victim and throw him away. Many influential people are involved in this.

In tribal areas (Just where khyber starts) from the border, Illegal arms, chars & heroin & alcohol are sold openly. Come to peshawar and I will personally show you around, you have no Idea the tribal people have made a mess. They take $$ for supporting terrorists, they take heavy amounts for this and the local Maliks and tribal leaders are involved in all this .. even when we were dealing to release our cousin, a local malik was responsible and the middle man, he received the money and took responsibility that the victim will be released within 24 hours of payment, he then forwarded payment to them. Now what can you do about this? all these are involved and making millions and billions

Some Tribal people might be patriotic or something, but I am sorry to say most of them are involved in illegal activities as they have no other way to earn a living.


[quote]n as far as Imran khan is concernd, i salute him for his courageous n bold decision of sitting in a demonstration against the present slave govrmnt on a national issue with da public openly and in a terrorist hit province without thinkng of the risks to his life while all the othr party leaders n his contemporaries are hidding in their palaces like cowards...peace[/QUOTE]

Yeah I also salute imran khan for lying so openly yet people love him and I love him for his double standards which people fail to see. When musharaf came, he quickly accepted him and glorified him, later on when he was about to leave, he turned up against him, then he said mqm is terrorists and i will send altaf to jail and i will launch case in london, then when mqm showed him their power and banned him from karachi every now and then he came down to earth and said "Mai MQM kay juratmandana aikdamat ke kadar karta hoon" lol first someone say mqm did 12th may killings etc then suddenly calls mqm iqdamad "JURATMANDANA" then mqm blamed him for having illegal children in capital talk and challenged him to do a medical test to prove other wise, imran khan refused and said "OH NOW U R GETTING PERSONAL" blah blah .. u salute a person who fails to give rights to his own daughter ? Or you salute to a person who fails to do medical test to prove he is right to the nation? lol :) I also salute Imran khan for calling everyone in a hot summer day and then coming himself in night when weather is cool and better comparatively .. he really deserves a salute, isnt it? I mean, come on!

[QUOTE=Sociologist PU;292846]PTI is holding a sit-in against drone attacks in Peshawar and as per TV reports it is a successful show so far. Leaders from other political parties are reaching there to show the soliderity with the victims of these attacks in FATA and KP areas. It seems that Khan has started his election campagine from Peshawar and is getting much popular support from the people there.
I think the PPP and ANP must be worried to see a new force in KP that can eat up their vote bank in next election. :pp[/QUOTE]


Most one and brilliant gathering and one aspct that Makhdom Javed Hashmi and Marvi Memon are too with him i.e. Imran Khan and i think Mr. Imran Khan can get a huge mendate in the next term elections. clues are clearly shows this i.e. phone of Imran Khan to Altaf Hussain. Shah Mehmood Qureshi can join PTI and i think the scnirio of the pakistani politics will change soon.

Imran khan full toss pe six maarta hai, is waqt bowler kaa coach se takrar chal raha hai is liye bowler slow full toss phenk raha hai aur kuch "naraz" fielders (jo keh rahe hain geo aur jeenay do) ko bhi batsman kaa saath dene kaa ishara de diya hai :dd. Imran khan kee dua hogi ke bowler kuch arsa aur coach se bigra rahe taake woh (imran khan) tez tareen century bana sake :dd.

[QUOTE=mukt;293370]I never said and/or commented on that, you misquoted me. I said I don't know why is the media saying that it was because imran khan that the supplies were blocked.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Media is saying this because In one sense supplies were being blocked. Nato had already declared that there will be no nato truck on Saturday and Sunday.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mukt;293370]Of course, when did I disagreed? But why don't you explain that to university administration because I know some university that declared holiday on Saturday just because of this .. so the damage was done :)[/QUOTE]

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I]
No one can explain this to authorities. If Sindh can observe a holiday just due to match then your universities has a genuine reason to have a holiday.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[QUOTE=mukt;293370]haha you just proved yourself wrong and imran khan a hypocrite. Think about what you said again buddy ;) If Pakistan recorded its protest on international level and yet americans refused, what on earth makes you think that a few thousand people in peshawar shouting and chanting will make americans do what they don't want to do? hahahahah Imran khan was only trying to do all that for political gains, nothing else.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]yarr Imran's aim was to record protest to Pakistani Governments and not to inrernational media. As he given one month time to government to make drones stop.[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mukt;293370]Also, it is not threatening pakistan sovereignty because it happens with the permission of pakistani gov and army, what they do in front of the media & public is only a drama (or so do I think, I can be wrong) :)[/QUOTE]


[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]May be you have forgotten Kiayni's statements regarding drones. May be government is doing drama to Pakistani media but it can not do so to international media.
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[QUOTE=mukt;293370]Please mention areas in lahore, karachi & Islamabad where chars/heroin is sold openly in market? If you fail to do so, then come to peshawar, give me a call and I will physically take you to places where guns, chars, heroin and all things (smuggled) are for sale openly and it starts right from the tribal areas where the border ends[/QUOTE]


[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Gym khana club, PC and who do not know about red light area. Here in Lahore even a child can locate it.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mukt;293370]I don't need to read history when everything is so open and clear[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=mukt;293370]Exactly. No one is perfect, everyone is corrupt and those who have not done corruption is not because they are not corrupt but because they have not got a chance yet. Imran khan changed color like a girgit before coming into power, i wonder what he will do once he come into power lol[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="3"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]May be Girgat's other name is Policics. Politics is all about this all. And we strive for the better. and Imran is relatively a better option.
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[QUOTE=mukt;293370]If that makes you happy, so be it.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]thank...:laugh:
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[QUOTE=mukt;293370]When did they deleted it? I never noticed it. Khan sahab is not an angel from heaven, he is a human like you and me and no better than other politicians.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]hahaha I have not quoted your post for this comment. It was not for you...:haha[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;293403]Imran khan full toss pe six maarta hai, is waqt bowler kaa coach se takrar chal raha hai is liye bowler slow full toss phenk raha hai aur kuch "naraz" fielders (jo keh rahe hain geo aur jeenay do) ko bhi batsman kaa saath dene kaa ishara de diya hai :dd. Imran khan kee dua hogi ke bowler kuch arsa aur coach se bigra rahe taake woh (imran khan) tez tareen century bana sake :dd.[/QUOTE]

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I]You stated your eye shots in quite tricky words... nice:clap [/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[QUOTE=polaris;293190]khan saaaaaaaab ap ko salam bhai.. kia jaadu kia hy ap ney logo py.. meine kia ap ke barey main thorey sey apney comments diye, yahan log tu baras he parey mujh pe.. wah khan jee wah.. u hv really won the votes, at least some of this forum's members..
so u want my posts to be deleted...!! is it fair..?? is it democracy? is it freedom of expression? ab sb jo favour kareingy... koi tu hona chahiye na khan saab ki opposition main...!![/QUOTE]

Aap per kis ney jadoo kia hai...unn bandron ney..roz niya bander tamasha..gazab khuda ka ? At least imran khan is better than sharif's,bhutto's n others...Our votes are for I.khan..you go n do what you like..i have read your posts in articles a lil while ago but i'm answering you here coz mods delete stuff over there..We respect imran khan n we consider him our hero.

We love him..I don't know aik sincere banday key barey mein aap kia kia bol rahey ho..HIS SINCERITY IS ABOVE DOUBT..Do you want to see these champions of aristocracy NOT DEMOCRACY ruling our country..Who consider it there birth right to rule us...We want to try a new man.n he is thousand times better than these jail birds n fake degree holders n feudal lords....

Imran Khan is the true leader of masses..

[QUOTE=Gulrukh;293471]Aap per kis ney jadoo kia hai...unn bandron ney..roz niya bander tamasha..gazab khuda ka ? At least imran khan is better than sharif's,bhutto's n others...Our votes are for I.khan..you go n do what you like..i have read your posts in articles a lil while ago but i'm answering you here coz mods delete stuff over there..We respect imran khan n we consider him our hero.

We love him..I don't know aik sincere banday key barey mein aap kia kia bol rahey ho..HIS SINCERITY IS ABOVE DOUBT..Do you want to see these champions of aristocracy NOT DEMOCRACY ruling our country..Who consider it there birth right to rule us...We want to try a new man.n he is thousand times better than these jail birds n fake degree holders n feudal lords....

Imran Khan is the true leader of masses..[/QUOTE]

hellooooooo jiyashah where are u.. now look at gul's language.. by calling bandars isn't she hurting sentiments of the fans of those who support them..?! pls jiyashah inko bhi takeed kardein jaisey mujhy ki when i called khan saab joker..
anyways gul ji i kno why ya supporting khan saab.. nt yur kasur as u belong to milatary, yur bros n all, so definitely u wud support evryone who's is by military, for military and about military..
evryone here wants to try new man, bt i wonder why ths new man has to be him..? who says he's new man...
today on tv, i heard nisar choudhry calling imran test tube politician.. haha vry funny (wow nisar jee hw genius..!).. in continuation to nisar bhai's talk, i wud like to add tht khan saab was brought forward into politics by hamid gul (military lord), khan supported mushy man (agn military lord) n now agn doin ths drama on lines of those lords.. i jus wana ask aren't these drones taking place wth permission of military.. if not, then why they're silent n are they really doing their duties?? n if yes, then hw an imran can go against military's permission??? well well its dramebazi well supported by those ghost lords.. gud game by those lords.. ek teer say do shikar.. a threat to the govt n a move to save sovereignty.. bt wait wait if sovereignty is to be saved in ths way then why on land we need forces, guns n nuclears.. where are those men at their best?? why sovereignty is being saved in such a hidden way.. cant we fight a war.. come on u lords fight a war if u r man enough.. i promise i shall be first to die for my country.. ~sigh~
gul u need to broaden the vision in order to understand wts best for yur country.. nothing more to say..
these r my personal views.. nothing offensive intended.. tc

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today on tv, i heard nisar choudhry calling imran test tube politician.. haha vry funny (wow nisar jee hw genius..!).. in continuation to nisar bhai's talk, i wud like to add tht khan saab was brought forward into politics by hamid gul (military lord), khan supported mushy man (agn military lord) n now agn doin ths drama on lines of those lords..
gul u need to broaden the vision in order to understand wts best for yur country.. nothing more to say..
these r my personal views.. nothing offensive intended.. tc[/QUOTE]

Nisar bhai nai uncle bolo..dad ki age ka hai in fact unn sey b bara.
don't they(N.League) feel any shame in calling imran khan a test tube politician.Zulfikar bhutto used to call Ayub khan '' daddy ''..n Nawaz Sharif's career was given a boost by Gen.Zia..khud hi test tube politician hain.n yes bara genius hai uncle Nisar..selected a meek n rootless n muhajir General son of an embassy clerk who back fired.all calculations gone wrong.n his leader exiled..What a genius.He was the front man of big bro sharif in advising him to appoint Gen.Mushy army chief..poor man.what he got at the end..dear all have shady past so don't accuse just one man..CJ our another hero is also in the list who welcomed mushy..any ways I respect your personal view n the fact that you know who I am even after I changed my username.tc.

[QUOTE=Ultimate CSP;293410][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Media is saying this because In one sense supplies were being blocked. Nato had already declared that there will be no nato truck on Saturday and Sunday.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

Then In the same sense, problem was caused for universities. Anyway, who cares :)



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No one can explain this to authorities. If Sindh can observe a holiday just due to match then your universities has a genuine reason to have a holiday.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/quote]

It's like saying "If x bangs his head against the wall, why shouldn't I?" lol .. If tomorrow i jump from the 10th floor of the building, you will follow me in doing so? I think you really love mathematics where 2 negatives make's 1 positive i.e - * - = + .. lol



[quote][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]yarr Imran's aim was to record protest to Pakistani Governments and not to inrernational media. As he given one month time to government to make drones stop.[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

lol how unrealistic is that .. so, Imran khan can make the Gov do things they don't want to do for x y z reasons? I didn't know that :P come on yar, he was only trying to play a game for more votes in future election .. he needs some issue to play politics


[quote][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]May be you have forgotten Kiayni's statements regarding drones. May be government is doing drama to Pakistani media but it can not do so to international media.
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Please remind me of kiyana statement, I shall be thankful. Also, What has the International media said which you are referring to?


[quote][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Gym khana club, PC and who do not know about red light area. Here in Lahore even a child can locate it.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

So people are scared from going to gym khana club, PC & Red light area? If yes, then ok .. I didn't know people were scared to go to PC, but then come to peshawar and go to tribal areas alone without a gun and I'll see how much you trust those tribal people :) You ignored beautifully their other "KARNAMAY" like kidnapping etc


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Actually, I might do it.



[quote][COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="3"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]May be Girgat's other name is Policics. Politics is all about this all. And we strive for the better. and Imran is relatively a better option.
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Thank God you agreed that politics is another name of girgit which mean(s) all politicians are hypocrites (saying one thing, doing otherwise) and hypocrites final destination is HELL FIRE :)

Imran khan is of course relatively better, he will be better in corruption, lying & playing with emotion(s) which he has already done .. Zardari waghaira ka to sab ko pata hai, but jab kesi par trust ho our woh he betray kar day na thats the most painful thing, I also liked imran khan but because of his recent events he proved himself a liar :P






[quote][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]hahaha I have not quoted your post for this comment. It was not for you...:haha[/FONT][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/quote]

Yeah I realized that immediately after I posted my reply to you but then I was too lazy to edit it ;)

@mukt
[QUOTE]I never said the only wrong things happen in tribal areas, but most of them do. My own cousin was kidnapped and taken to tribal areas, he was released after a ransom of 4.5 million PKR was payed. In peshawar, 99.9% kidnappings are arranged by the people of tribal areas, It's a safe heaven for the kidnappers.

a local malik was responsible and the middle man, he received the money and took responsibility that the victim will be released within 24 hours of payment, he then forwarded payment to them. Now what can you do about this? all these are involved and making millions and billions [/QUOTE]

lolzz.nw i realized why r u so mch against tibals...my sympathies r with u n ur cousine.....well the thing is if sm1 robs u in karachi then u cann't say dat the ppl of karachi are robbers.gd n bad thngs n ppl r found every whr...2nd u talkd abt local maliks...do u know ven taliban enterd fata,hw mch maliks they hv slaughtrd?perhaps u dnt. they almost killd every prominent malik/elder...the malik u encntrd is no 1 bt thr dealer... n can u tell me the rate of kidnapng in tribal belt before 2002 n after 2002?...bro taliban r carryng out these crimes to raise funds 4 their militant activities n tribals also come undr fire most of the times.

nw as far as patriotism is concernd,it is tested in crucial times like war etc.it cant b provd wid words..n tribals always responded to it...our national army is also full of tribals.hope u wl undrstnd my point. The negative mindset abt any community is nt only bad 4 u bt 4 the country too.. so try 2 b positive.

1 thing i would like to mention that leader of a nation is always from the nation. How can we expect best leader out of culprit nation. Plz tell me who is most sincere with his nation as a whole? Who is taking pain instead of focusing on personal interest than giving piroirty to Pakistan? Sorry to say we all are sleeping:sleeping and if we are looking for Muhammad Ali JInnah:waiting than keep one thing in mind we all have to be like muslims as pre partition period. We have to give sacrifices but we are not ready for that............. Then how can we expect one exceptional leader for us........ Plz now all have to select one good among availales:roll becoz i think so we are not deserving 4 Quiad e Azam.

Imran Khan's Strengths vs weaknesses
 

[FONT="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="3"]Imran Khan is a born leader, no doubt, but politics is a team-game. He accomplished some gigantic tasks which a person, specifically politicians, could imagine only. He brought proud to the nation by winning cricket WC-1992 due to his marvelous leadership. He is also a great philanthropist who founded Pakistan’s first cancer hospital, the Shaukat Khanum Memorial Trust Hospital – as good an example of sustainable, rooted and inclusive philanthropy as you’ll ever learn about. He has laid the groundwork for Namal College, in Mianwali, which is already rumoured to be on the fast track to being a nationally competitive centre for higher education.

There are two lessons that Imran Khan could have learnt from his cricketing and philanthropic adventures. The first is that people matter, and therefore, change can only come about when the people stand up and make it happen. The second is that no matter how good a leader, a winning team is made up of multiple points of talent and skill. Only teams can win team sports.

On most days, it is obvious that Imran Khan learnt the first lesson well, but did not learn the second, at all. The PTI is a collection of nice young people, from mostly good families, who are almost exclusively from the cities. That is a demographic that has had almost zero electoral success. The reason is quite simple. They don’t vote. But even if they were to start voting, what are the chances that Imran Khan’s peripheral populism would catch fire and become a national juggernaut? Pretty low.

Imran needs to build PTI as a team; teamwork must be shown, one man show couldn’t work longer. Without first- and second-tier political talent the PTI has no hope of being a legitimate and meaningful political force. Down tiers of the party serve as a moderator and regulator of party’s strength on the one hand, and an amplifier and projector of its strength on the other hand, In short, the short-term prospects of the PTI challenging the established political order should be about slim to zero. [/SIZE][/FONT]

There are many people in FATA, especially North Waziristan and Parachinaar, who support the drone attacks because they target the state-guests (Al-Qaeda, Uzbeks, Tajiks and Arabs) that have been given sanctuary by the Pakistani agencies. Those 'state-guests' have made life hell for the local tribesmen, especially the mixed Sunni-Shia Parachinaar tribes. Imran Khan didn't speak for them.

Furthermore, why didn't Imran Khan speak about the countless number of people who have died due to Pakistani bombing and artillery shelling?

Why didn't Imran Khan speak out against the military agencies that are murdering Baloch activists, mutilating their corpses and then dumping them in random places?

Why didn't Imran Khan speak out about the wide range of human rights abuses that are being carried out from Swat to South Waziristan and the unlawful detention and torture of countless hundreds of tribesmen without any charge, evidence or trial?

As a Pashtun, I don't feel as though Imran Khan speaks for the Pashtun masses. He is against the drone attacks but he doesn't even say a word against the Pakistani campaigns that kill even greater numbers of civilians (and which the ISPR doesn't report and with a ban on media access to the war-torn areas, no one knows the full extent of the damage).