Ghulami hai muqaddar mein abhi tak...??
 

[SIZE="3"][CENTER][B]ghulami hai muqaddar mein abhi tak
agerchay bairryaan tooti hui hain
gharon mein saanp ghuss aye hain lekin
hamari laathiyan tooti hui hain[/B]

[B][U]Dabang=oonchi peerhi wali sarkaar[/U][/B][/CENTER]

"My goal in coming here is [B]not to apologize[/B] for what I consider to be a triumph against terrorism of unprecedented consequence," said Kerry. "My goal in coming here has been to talk about how we manage this important relationship."[B]Kerry[/B]

Kerry also announced that [B]Pakistan had agreed to return the tail[/B] :pp of a stealth U.S. helicopter that American commandos had to destroy during the bin Laden raid because it malfunctioned.

[CENTER][B][U]Tch Tch=Khudi na baich ghareebi mein naam paida ker[/U][/B][/CENTER]

Pakistan's failing economy desperately needs American and other foreign aid. Since 2002, Pakistan has received more than $20 billion from the U.S., making the country one of the largest U.S. aid recipients, according to the Congressional Research Service. Nearly $9 billion of that has been reimbursements for Pakistan's costs to support the U.S.-led military campaign in Afghanistan.(Cbs news)

[CENTER][B][U]Hoslay apni jaga hain,be'basi apni jaga=[/U][/B][/CENTER]

“The U.S. should listen to the voice of the people of Pakistan and stop drone attacks,” [B]Malik said [/B]in Karachi

MIRANSHAH, Pakistan — [B]Two US drone strikes[/B] targeting a militant compound and a vehicle in Pakistan's lawless tribal district of North Waziristan killed at least seven militants on Monday, officials said.

[CENTER][B][U]Naqaar khanay mein tooti ki awaaz=[/U][/B][/CENTER]
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بول، کہ لب آزاد ہیں تیرے
بول، زباں اب تک تیری ہے
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LAHORE: Chief Minister Punjab Shahbaz Sharif said Monday that the Punjab cabinet has [B]decided to reject foreign aid[/B], DawnNews reported.


it is time for Pakistanis to "insist on dignified and honorable relations with the superpowers and [B]refuse to compromise our national interests[/B], freedom, and sovereignty," Sharif said in announcing the move.


[CENTER][B][U]itnay mehngay khawab na dekho,thak jao gay=[/U][/B][/CENTER]

In a parliamentary resolution Saturday, Pakistani lawmakers did not mention the fact that bin Laden was living in the army town or the suspicions of collusion, but instead warned of the consequences if any more American incursions were take place in the future.
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ہے لئے ہتھیار دشمن تاک میں بیٹھا ادھر
اور ہم تیار ھیں سینہ لئے اپنا ادھر
خون سے کھیلیں گے ہولی گر وطن مشکل میں ہے
سرفروشی کی تمنا اب ہمارے دل میں ہے
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They also threatened to stop NATO and U.S. trucks from using its land routes to ferry supplies across the border to troops in Afghanistan unless Washington does not stop missile attacks on its territory.(Cbs news)
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وہ جِسم بھی کیا جِسم ہے جس میں نہ ہو خونِ جنون
طوفانوں سے کیا لڑے جو کشتیِ ساحل میں ہے

سرفروشی کی تمنا اب ہمارے دل میں ہے
دیکھنا ہے زور کتنا بازوئے قاتل میں ہے
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[B]Do you see an independent Pakistan ahead?Or you think Pakistan can't survive by rejecting foriegn aid and by looking into eyes of America?Are you satisfied by this daring step or it is merely a threat for Pakistan's economy as well as for sovereignty;a choice of some fools?[/B][/SIZE]

Absolute sovereignty is an outdated concept in modern international affairs..We can't expect Pakistan to survive by cutting off from the outer world,especially USA on whom it is heavily dependent for financial and military aid.Often in the past few years,Pakistan has been able to avert bankruptcy because of aid 'injections' from US and IMF..It is not possible for Pakistan to wake up one fine morning and shun USA and everything it offers us.First,we will have to build capacity to survive without US financial aid and only then we can talk to them,well,not exactly on equal terms,but more equitable terms..for the time being,we are stuck with them.

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;302409][SIZE="3"][B]Do you see an independent Pakistan ahead?[/QUOTE][/B]

Yes, I see but leadership matters, we are on the way but it is a very long and evolving process it couldn't happen in days. We made a significant progress in recent months.

[QUOTE]Or you think Pakistan can't survive by rejecting foriegn aid and by looking into eyes of America?[/QUOTE]

No, I don't think so, we could survive better by rejecting foreign aid. Followong are some comparative facts of gains and losses of aid based relationships:

[B][U]Gains:[/U] [/B] [B][COLOR="darkred"]Around $20 billion has been given to Pakistan since Sept. 11, 2001.[/COLOR]

[B][U]Losses:[/U][/B][B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Pakistan has spent in excess of 43 billion dollars fighting terrorism since September 2001, severely slowing its economic growth in the process.[/COLOR][/B]

[B]Analyse yourself, what earned? and What lost?[/B]

[QUOTE]Are you satisfied by this daring step or it is merely a threat for Pakistan's economy as well as for sovereignty;a choice of some fools?[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

We need plenty of these steps, now its nation time to say leadership "Do more". These are dignified manners of nations. This doesn't mean to start a war against US but its a matter of saving national interests and sovereignty. Pakistan needs to prioritise her interests on the basis of equality equity.

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;302409][SIZE=3]

[B]Do you see an independent Pakistan ahead?Or you think Pakistan can't survive by rejecting foriegn aid and by looking into eyes of America?Are you satisfied by this daring step or it is merely a threat for Pakistan's economy as well as for sovereignty;a choice of some fools?[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]


decisions in right time and proper place sense as the good quality of leadership;to hear the unheard is necessary rule to be a good ruler.I do not think at this critical time it is a good decision;but to break the seasonal relations need strategic planning.Aid does`nt matter more as pak can earn from Forex reserves and exports.but matters more is two power ambition .pakistan always tilt toward one side .this is the age of multilateralism and we have example of India ;it have many cards as it keep its relations with superpowers on strategic bases and if one harm its ambition it throw a red card to show its power ....unfortunately pakistan has one card ,either of china or America ...so first pak has to develop its relations with muslim countries and regional states so it can drag the chains of slavery from is pride

@farah zafar.... very nice POETIC ANALYSIS:))
all what i want to say is that LEADERSHIP matters.... if in the coming future PAKISTAN would have good leader (not leaders: ek e mil jaye tou bht hai) we can face any power.... Allah bless Pakistan with a good MEER-e-KARVAN.

[QUOTE=hamza_salick86;302463]We can't expect Pakistan to survive by cutting off from the outer world,especially USA on whom it is heavily dependent for financial and military aid.[/QUOTE]
Hamza do you think we are "really" dependent on their aid or our dependence is result of corruption of black sheep?I mean If corruption is eradicated,would we be in position to survive without any aid?
Last night,In "Capital talk",I heard by some leading persons of "nation" that corruption made us crippled otherwise we didn't need to depend on "aids".Is it so?

[QUOTE]First,we will have [B]to build capacity[/B] to survive without US financial aid and only then we can talk to them,well,not exactly on equal terms,but more equitable terms.[B].for the time being,we are stuck with them[/B].[/QUOTE]
Don't you think we have capacity but lost self-respect?
We are stuck with them because we love begging,I believe.Otherwise we are not in such worst position that we may keep bowing.

[QUOTE=Ali Ahmad Syed;302497][/B]

Yes, I see but leadership matters, we are on the way but it is a very long and evolving process it couldn't happen in days. We made a significant progress in recent months.[/QUOTE]
For approval of resolution,we need parliament's support.If it gets approved,it would be a revolution.mager mamolay shehbaaz se takranay ki jurrat b tou rakhtay hon na..:mad:

[B]Resolution can be a revolution[/B]

[QUOTE]No, I don't think so, we could survive better by rejecting foreign aid.[/QUOTE]
Do you think Ali,we will really survive by rejecting foreign aid?Have we any resources for substitute?

[QUOTE][B]Analyse yourself, what earned? and What lost?[/B][/QUOTE]
Earned insult,disrespect,despondency,a frustrated youth etc etc:clap
Lost self respect,"khudi",andaz e musalmani..etc etc:mad:

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We need plenty of these steps, now its nation time to say leadership "Do more". These are dignified manners of nations. This doesn't mean to start a war against US but its a matter of saving national interests and sovereignty. Pakistan needs to prioritise her interests on the basis of equality equity.[/QUOTE]

Can youth play any role in it?If yes then what and how?

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;302409]

[CENTER][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3]بول، کہ لب آزاد ہیں تیرے[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3]بول، زباں اب تک تیری ہے[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/CENTER]


[CENTER][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=4]ہے لئے ہتھیار دشمن تاک میں بیٹھا ادھر[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3]
[B][SIZE=4]اور ہم تیار ھیں سینہ لئے اپنا ادھر[/SIZE][/B]
[B][SIZE=4]خون سے کھیلیں گے ہولی گر وطن مشکل میں ہے[/SIZE][/B]
[B][SIZE=4]سرفروشی کی تمنا اب ہمارے دل میں ہے[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER]




[CENTER][B][SIZE=4]وہ جِسم بھی کیا جِسم ہے جس میں نہ ہو خونِ جنون[/SIZE][/B]
[B][SIZE=4]طوفانوں سے کیا لڑے جو کشتیِ ساحل میں ہے[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER]

[CENTER][B][SIZE=4]سرفروشی کی تمنا اب ہمارے دل میں ہے[/SIZE][/B]
[B][SIZE=4]دیکھنا ہے زور کتنا بازوئے قاتل میں ہے[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER]



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oops, khali internet explorer main dabe dikha raha hai, baqi browsers main sahi urdu aa rahi hai :wacko::wacko::wacko:

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hahaha.Sorry I mistakenly expected a serious and thought provoking post by you after seeing your name:pp
Well...Kashif it was a copy paste,I'm bad at English typing so I can't even think about Urdu:(.Anyways thanx for your concern:)

[QUOTE]oops, khali internet explorer main dabe dikha raha hai, baqi browsers main sahi urdu aa rahi hai [/QUOTE]

kidher hai mera danda?:huh