IRAN naked USA
 

[B]iran's stance after IAEA sanctions is highly commendable.iran always

discloses the true picture of usa.it also told that USA wants to sabotage

pakistans's nuclear weapons and that's true.ALHMDULILLAH we are

successful so far in protecting our nuclear weapons.

iran has right for nuclear and uranium proliferation.iran has given a very bold

laudable reply''there's no break or reverse gear in its uranium proliferation

programme''.yah hai momin ki awaaz.Quran also advises muslims to defend

themselves against foes(kuffars).when israiel can have ''defensible

borders'',''military assets'' why muslims cant have thier protection and

defence equipments?its all because they want muslims to be moth-eaten.

the UN sanctions conspicuously highlight thier true picture what ALLAH draws

several times in quran as(mehfoom)''vo(kuffar) chahtay hain k tum(muslims)

kufr kro.yah tumhe brabaad kr den [/B]

Yeah but our Foreign Office has given a reply that looks more like 'snubbing', saying, "Our nukes are safe". I dont want to trust Iran too much when it comes to Pakistan. Cuz we havent really cultivated a strong relation with it, and we've allowed Russia and India to get closer to it. *Sigh* one of those times I miss ZAB.

Pak-Iran relations were straightened I thought by Ayub khan(Was it Bhutto?), by giving them the area of land called Zahedan?
(in late fifties)

all of u r right in own places but infact iran took stand agaist israil and america. more ever if we look at stregic point of view the jewish lobby main target is PAKISTAN's neclr power to destroy.even we have abilty to launch a missile till israil so far due to this in jewish no body like this
Afghan war is a symbol butr infact it is a cause to sorround the pakistan .u can obser till2001 to till all main event and main hit of terrirsom in pakistan u will realize thsi its only to disstaibl the country and realize this " we have danger to TALBAN NOT TO INDIA
'and our brave and man of battle minsiter mr.REHMAN MALIK admit it
inside all of this america dosent want our relation IRAN >CHINA. these one are our initial nieghbour and frndz which help PAKISTAN in all time of need.

I was wondering,If Iran can take a stance against Amreeka,why can't Pakistan even raise her voice for hes rights?What is it,that makes Iranian society glued together and so unified in their stance, despite the fact that Iran is a disparate aggregate of 10 or more ethnic groups(Persian 51%, Azerbaijani 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%).

@aphrodite

Ok,I got you,you were referring to ZAB,Shah of Iran and Qaddafi's friendship.

Our Foreign office reacted ( :ninja: ) good not the best.
We need to look into it , Ask Iran to share Info , we will have an idea how much Iranian intelligence active.
As far as the NAs are concerned , bring China into the talks.
UN Security Council can't pass a resolution against our NAs, as long as China is with us.
But its first time that Head of a state , amazingly Iran's, pointed it out .
Serious :huh:

[QUOTE=candidguy;317641]Pak-Iran relations were straightened I thought by Ayub khan(Was it Bhutto?), by giving them the area of land called Zahedan?
(in late fifties)[/QUOTE]
Bhutto was the architect of Pakistan's policy based on regionalism.
- Gwadar project was the brainchild of Bhutto. He foresaw its importance that could catapult Pakistan's position in the region, as early as 1973. He asked Nixon, but of course he declined. Then he turned towards China, which agreed to help build it. And Gwadar is the gateway of China to the Indian Ocean, where all superpowers are present. Hence, ZAB knew that come what may, China will protect Pakistan at all costs :))
- Got Gilgit from the local prince. This directly linked Pakistan to China opening up direct access to its territory in case India decided to go rogue
- He also foresaw the upcoming Afghan-Soviet war. So contrary to common wisdom, [B]it was Bhutto not Zia [/B]who created what we now know as Afghan Mujahideen :) ISI was busy training the Mujahideen as early as 1976.
-Everyone's aware of his pro-China shift...(he admired Mao)...
-At the same time trying to turn the tide of Russo-Pak relations that needed work...
-And his anti-American pose. He detested USA and sadly his own daughter turned foul.

I am not aware of the Zahedan handover. Where did you read it?

[QUOTE=candidguy;317661]I was wondering,If Iran can take a stance against Amreeka,why can't Pakistan even raise her voice for hes rights?What is it,that makes Iranian society glued together and so unified in their stance, despite the fact that Iran is a disparate aggregate of 10 or more ethnic groups(Persian 51%, Azerbaijani 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%).[/QUOTE]

It was the same case with them during Shah's time. A strong leader like Khomeni united them. He got all dissenters or even those people killed who in the name of freedom of speech, were criticizing government's acts. Harsh isnt it? But look where Iran stands today. We too, are looking for that.

Great!Thanks for the information,I didn't know it.

Zahedan handover?
I had heard from a moron Lol.Time slot: 06--08 minutes
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Here is an article which affirms that there had been a border dispute b/w Pakistan and Iran.
[url=http://conflict-prevention.net/page.php?id=45&formid=72&action=show&articleid=77]ECCP[/url]
(It's a very informative article)

[B]hold it...iam not intended to say that iran is our well wisher in any sense.it may or may not be.i dun've much information on that.the thing that i appreciate is that IRAN is right and boldly disclose/naked the true face of usa.cuz this is the main aim of usa,india,israiel to sabotage our nuclear weapons.iam not talking about whether they are safe/not.they are safe as yet ALHMDULILLAH.
and we can't raise a single word against USA/ISRAEIL cuz we lack the true spirit of MOMINS(muslims).can we dare to march on USA soldier?iran did so.can we say that the allegations they raise on muslims must b dumped?iran did so by saying ''we(iran) dump the sanctions against our nuclear weapons in our waste basket''...etc. [/B]

Held!LoL,
Neither am I bent on proving that Iran is our enemy,I appreciated Iran for such a bold stance.Though some of my posts(where I tried to clarify my confusions) were tangentially related to the matter in hand,my second post is relevant enough.

And your question that why can't we raise a single word against USA/Israel is the same as my query posted in my second post.And it has already been replied by Aphrodite.We need leader like Khomeini.

@ candidguy
 

Well, i checked and apparently this info is correct. Ayub Khan did it as a good will gesture.

[B]@candidguy:
i dint ask why we can't raise:blink:.i myself answered that in my post.:pp.thanx[/B]

dear Iran want to have some friends because USA is trying to isolate him. Iran was successful to some extent when she said America want to sabotage Pakistani nukes. She want allies against America.:thinking

[B]yeah iran wants allies against USA/israiel.but unfortunately its unlikely he would get:sad...[/B]

[QUOTE=rabia butt;318497][B]yeah iran wants allies against USA/israiel.but unfortunately its unlikely he would get:sad...[/B][/QUOTE]

yeah M.Ahmedinejad keenness to seek allies against America and strenghten Iran position in the region at a time when the crisis in Bahrain has put a further strain on tehran relations with the Arab states.

hey hey gus we just look at the front site of all aspect
if u remeber the iraq in 1991 the same atitude and behvior was by sadam hussuain what hapnd with hime u seen
if we obser in pakistan we r tolltly undergo of finencially i n the hands of america how can we take stand against him or say any word against america
if any one tried he will be killed or filld mouth withh dollers

I do'nt know why we all are so obsessed with Atomic bomb which could never be used or even If we want we could not, USA is constantly monitoring this region and it would be diffused before it is initiated.

We need to focus on economic Priorities which infact is more powerful than any atomic or hydrogen bomb.

[B]No one is going to attack pakistan. India is emerging a giant economic power and it has no plans to wag war to destroy its economy. and also Israel.[/B]

[I][B]
As Long as we obey our master (USA),which we are , trust me no one is going to attack us. Pakistan is indirectly controlled by USA and it can be inscribed as a colonial state of USA , so dont worry.[/B][/I]

[B][COLOR="Magenta"]All the exaggerated false Drama created by our Generals that hails India and Israel as our Enemy no 1 , for there own personal benefits so that they could enjoy luxurious lives, polo grounds, plots, Garrison clubs, housing schemes , billion of dollars aid, 80 percent GDP of this poor nation, commissions, BMW's and every kind of facility which is ceased for the poor civilians of this country. [/COLOR][/B]
[B]
I Just want to say , wake up Pakistan. [/B]

Pakistan and Iran Relations are strongest need of the time to make balance of the power in the region. When Pakistan suffered from any difficulty or war with India then Afghanistan Play against Pakistan but Iran helps Pakistan So now a days China and Iran are very important for Pakistan.:angle

Iran is a sovereign country. They do not beg USA or IMF to stable their economy. We are so called independent and sovereign country. I am amazed that why Iranian president revealed that thing? When we are happy ass slaves of USA so why anybody else have problems? Our democratic government have strong strategic relations with United States so why we blame our strategic partner or can say strategic godfather? We are happy to serve USA as USA is serving the muslims all around the globe, don't you see that how passionately USA is serving the muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now please all so called sovereign countries and their heads please do not disturb us because we are an "independent and sovereign country".

Iran is a united country.When the country is united no matter how big crisis comes it can easily manage it.The problem with our country is well known to every one

yup hamza u r right this is badluck for our country.our politicin and ulmaye kram not united as they be....:mellow:
same asour nation just emtionl pplz can b expolite at any talk any mattr and also run behind any gossipy person

We'll hit Nato's sheild in Turkey if threatend, wow!:p
Iran

you all r right and going in one direction. infact pakistan at that time doesnot go against the rules of UNO. because we know that pakistan is a member o UNO. it is due iran feels stragner itself level of UNO. if pakistan helps iran then it well fell in new problems. we know that our econome rate is 3.2 and we want to improve them. if we help iran UNO applies band on our trait. and we will become down and down.

yup sameer but when we walk in counties reltions we must keep it in mind that if any problum creatd for us we should meet it but our govt leaders and polciy maker didnt think abt it

[QUOTE=rabia butt;317925][B]hold it...iam not intended to say that iran is our well wisher in any sense.it may or may not be.i dun've much information on that.the thing that i appreciate is that IRAN is right and boldly disclose/naked the true face of usa.cuz this is the main aim of usa,india,israiel to sabotage our nuclear weapons.iam not talking about whether they are safe/not.they are safe as yet ALHMDULILLAH.
and we can't raise a single word against USA/ISRAEIL cuz we lack the true spirit of MOMINS(muslims).can we dare to march on USA soldier?iran did so.can we say that the allegations they raise on muslims must b dumped?iran did so by saying ''we(iran) dump the sanctions against our nuclear weapons in our waste basket''...etc. [/B][/QUOTE]




i dont understand why we are not doing any thing against U.S.A ,as we have nuclear energy ?and why we are dependent on usa what is the reason behind this ?

[QUOTE=faizasoomro;379487]i dont understand why we are not doing any thing against U.S.A ,as we have nuclear energy ?and why we are dependent on usa what is the reason behind this ?[/QUOTE]


Brother nuclear energy is not enough to run a country. there are many other things like oil,gas,food,money ,unity etc we lack most of the things.
As we have american bases in our country and same goes for most of the muslim countries we cant do anything against them

with crrunt senrio of Pakistan we saw U.S.A fullfill all wishes at thier own conditions and gave greed of Dollers to our leader whcih ran behind every time and in every movment to U.S.A in every problums even we havnt made our Budgets and ecnomics polieceies at our own..
Iran has loyl leader they fights for the rights of nation not like our which snatch all rights of nation.