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Completely agree with you bro. Sorry samina but your comments, in my opinion, fail to qualify as valid arguments, or arguments of any type. "in my opinion" it was more on the lines of you 'venting'. In conclusion, they were devoid of any facts or ground realities.
No offence intended.

As for the topic...following is everything i have to say bout it:

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My question..Is imran khan the right choice?How?Let's say better than others..but are you always looking for better?Why not best?Because best is so far away or best is yet to come!!
Let me tell you one thing,in our country there are so many scholars,educationists,highly educated youngsters,scientists who have no sources or to be more precise who have no money to spend in these so called rallies.Many of them have strong visions but how can they participate?In every election there is no place for such intellectuals who can deliver something fruitful.
You talk about change by the hands of imran khan,Why don't you bring the change yourself?Why you are always looking for a corrupt leader?There are so many people saying that we are going for IK because we are sick of nawaz and ppp corruption!Comeon why in the name of GOD you people want to experiment again?Why don't you stand up and opt someone better,an ordinary man like us,who is honest...who can't compete in the presence of these big fishes.
My vision is that there should be a party of our very own intellectuals,scientists,youngsters,economists, socialists etc and they must be appointed in every sector of country according to their field.This will bring the real change.Merely looking for a corrupt imran khan again will not do much good to us.Just stop looking for dishonest leaders beacuse Allah will never change your condition until and unless you really want it.If 50% is in favor of IK then 50% don't even want these fraudulent elections and the reason is obvious..they don't want to conduct experiment!

And imran khan is not some saint.I mean i can say whatever i feel about him.These are my very own thoughts so stop commenting on me as this is also useless and by the way who cares?Be a man and criticize only.There was no real need of words like ''no offence intended'' after agreeing to a single post of which you made a reply.

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My question..Is imran khan the right choice?How?Let's say better than others..but are you always looking for better?Why not best?Because best is so far away or best is yet to come!!
Let me tell you one thing,in our country there are so many scholars,educationists,highly educated youngsters,scientists who have no sources or to be more precise who have no money to spend in these so called rallies.Many of them have strong visions but how can they participate?In every election there is no place for such intellectuals who can deliver something fruitful.
You talk about change by the hands of imran khan,Why don't you bring the change yourself?Why you are always looking for a corrupt leader?There are so many people saying that we are going for IK because we are sick of nawaz and ppp corruption!Comeon why in the name of GOD you people want to experiment again?Why don't you stand up and opt someone better,an ordinary man like us,who is honest...who can't compete in the presence of these big fishes.
My vision is that there should be a party of our very own intellectuals,scientists,youngsters,economists, socialists etc and they must be appointed in every sector of country according to their field.This will bring the real change.Merely looking for a corrupt imran khan again will not do much good to us.Just stop looking for dishonest leaders beacuse Allah will never change your condition until and unless you really want it.If 50% is in favor of IK then 50% don't even want these fraudulent elections and the reason is obvious..they don't want to conduct experiment!

And imran khan is not some saint.I mean i can say whatever i feel about him.These are my very own thoughts so stop commenting on me as this is also useless and by the way who cares?Be a man and criticize only.There was no real need of words like ''no offence intended'' after agreeing to a single post of which you made a reply.

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Ofcourse u have every right to say whatever you want about IK or his dog shero or Maryam Nawaz and her social gathering. But the problem is it would border on irrelevance. This is a forum and this category is 'Discussion'. In a discussion, you give arguments which are based on some facts, which you analysed and then formed an opinion. Then you shared it with us hence it becoming an argument. Re-read your posts and ul know what im talking about.

Secondly, idealism is good but idealism based on fantasies and desires-get out of this disillusioned state of mind. How many world countries can you name that are formed of scientists etc. Go deep in history and do enlighten me if you find any.

50% who dont want election are hopeless and disillusioned people waiting for miracles. You no nothing of IK and ur already judging him to be corrupt and complaining about how nothing good will come out of it.
Completely useless arguing with you.
And yea, the young keaders conference contingent from Pak is a complete farce. No wild guesses on the judging criteria they use to take people. And trust me, no sour grapes.

Ya il take back my words 'no offence intended'. Thats the best criticism ur posts can get from me. More than they were worth.
"be a man and criticise"
Ha! nice ideals you have there.

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Ofcourse u have every right to say whatever you want about IK or his dog shero or Maryam Nawaz and her social gathering. But the problem is it would border on irrelevance. This is a forum and this category is 'Discussion'. In a discussion, you give arguments which are based on some facts, which you analysed and then formed an opinion. Then you shared it with us hence it becoming an argument. Re-read your posts and ul know what im talking about.

Secondly, idealism is good but idealism based on fantasies and desires-get out of this disillusioned state of mind. How many world countries can you name that are formed of scientists etc. Go deep in history and do enlighten me if you find any.

50% who dont want election are hopeless and disillusioned people waiting for miracles. You no nothing of IK and ur already judging him to be corrupt and complaining about how nothing good will come out of it.
Completely useless arguing with you.
And yea, the young keaders conference contingent from Pak is a complete farce. No wild guesses on the judging criteria they use to take people. And trust me, no sour grapes.

Ya il take back my words 'no offence intended'. Thats the best criticism ur posts can get from me. More than they were worth.
"be a man and criticise"
Ha! nice ideals you have there.

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I know nothing of IK lolz and you know much of him because you are having dinner with him daily or let me make a wild guess..are you his best buddy?
Pathetic!
It seems you consider yourself some real genius who can shower IK with his beautiful visionSS so please save your pathetic words for him,i can't tolerate such kind of arrogance.
People like you are much hopeless who talk about revolution bla bla but don't know its real meaning.You can just create mess by enchanting slogans IK is best,for me he is just a man who can utter baseless words with no proper vision.Wait and see...if he is elected how much our people(not your people) get from him...there will be same corruption,same inflation and same terrorism!

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My question..Is imran khan the right choice?How?Let's say better than others..but are you always looking for better?Why not best?Because best is so far away or best is yet to come!!
Let me tell you one thing,in our country there are so many scholars,educationists,highly educated youngsters,scientists who have no sources or to be more precise who have no money to spend in these so called rallies.Many of them have strong visions but how can they participate?In every election there is no place for such intellectuals who can deliver something fruitful.
You talk about change by the hands of imran khan,Why don't you bring the change yourself?Why you are always looking for a corrupt leader?There are so many people saying that we are going for IK because we are sick of nawaz and ppp corruption!Comeon why in the name of GOD you people want to experiment again?Why don't you stand up and opt someone better,an ordinary man like us,who is honest...who can't compete in the presence of these big fishes.
My vision is that there should be a party of our very own intellectuals,scientists,youngsters,economists, socialists etc and they must be appointed in every sector of country according to their field.This will bring the real change.Merely looking for a corrupt imran khan again will not do much good to us.Just stop looking for dishonest leaders beacuse Allah will never change your condition until and unless you really want it.If 50% is in favor of IK then 50% don't even want these fraudulent elections and the reason is obvious..they don't want to conduct experiment!

And imran khan is not some saint.I mean i can say whatever i feel about him.These are my very own thoughts so stop commenting on me as this is also useless and by the way who cares?Be a man and criticize only.There was no real need of words like ''no offence intended'' after agreeing to a single post of which you made a reply.

Cheers!
Samina, Please prove to me with FACTS that Imran Khan is corrupt.
Please prove to me that he is just another politician who is with an ulterior motive of being just another corrupt politician after he gets into power.
Give me reasons and facts that why should I not believe him when he says that Pakistan is not a poor country but a poorly managed country.
One more thing, you have written in your previous post that(let me copy paste that phrase),"if he is elected how much our people(not your people) get from him", could not get it please elaborate.

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Ok, we just assume that he is a politician like others and nothing is going to change if he acquires the power, then, In your opinion miss samina what other way has left for putting the already doldrums country on solid footing. should we again elect ppp which has yield nothing good in its two rules except of chaos and rift? should we be the aspirant of PML-N success in impending elections which in past actively embezzle the public interests? Or do you just think that dictatorship is a well option which in its four time rule has just weaken the democracy and did never prove itself as nationally-agreed-upon governmental body?

You are not wrong in saying that all politicians hoodwink the masses while canvassing and soon after the winning they turned their blind eyes from the hollow-slogans and empty-promises which they made during their rhetoric speeches to bring round the people on their line of thoughts. But it is equally true that we do have no way to get rid of this conventional politics. Now, it is the utmost need of the time that we should enact some new laws which genuinely ensure accountability of politicians, and provision of fundamentals to nation.
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Samina, Please prove to me with FACTS that Imran Khan is corrupt.
Please prove to me that he is just another politician who is with an ulterior motive of being just another corrupt politician after he gets into power.
Give me reasons and facts that why should I not believe him when he says that Pakistan is not a poor country but a poorly managed country.
One more thing, you have written in your previous post that(let me copy paste that phrase),"if he is elected how much our people(not your people) get from him", could not get it please elaborate.

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We need system not imran khan,we are being fooled by a slogan of ‘change’.Every corrupt man is joining PTI,what is this?Why IK is joining hands with crooks?Why he is not calling the intellectuals of our country,can you explain it?Now you will surely say that if he rejects every corrupt leader of different categories,he will be totally alone…how he will win? how he will bring back these old fishes in government ah!
Ik and his supporters were creating chaos for more than two years on the ''fake degree holders'' issue then why they are having such members (read culprits).The list is too long and I don't want to burn myself by thinking about it.Trust me,if he had just called up the real talent of our country,i must have been the first one to support him.He just wants a seat and mark my words you will see it from your own eyes.He is using youth in a worst way.I wish IK had really called us!

As far as my previous post is concerned,i had wanted to make something very clear..The person who thinks we can't make leaders from different fields of sciences or lets say from our education department doesn't deserve to claim patriotism.If a simple cricketer has guts to make himself a politician then why not us(by us i mean ''our OWN talent'')
Prove it if you can...IK is not corrupt,IK has a vision and IK will not be a looter when his party is becoming the party of looters(sigh) without using inappropriate words for me. After all,now you should behave like a g e n t l e m a n and the reason is obvious.
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We need system not imran khan,we are being fooled by a slogan of ‘change’.Every corrupt man is joining PTI,

The writing is relevant to the fears over the participation of old faces in PTI, however IK made it clear several times that no one would be allowed to hijack the party's policy.

..IK is not corrupt,IK has a vision and IK will not be a looter when his party is becoming the party of looters(sigh) without using inappropriate words for me. After all,now you should behave like a g e n t l e m a n and the reason is obvious.
Yes we need a leader who is not a corrupt man, and we find IK the same. IK is good person but the people sitting in central secretariat Islamabad or the others who managed to make a place in high cadre in Party are not cooperative and as a light purse is a heavy curse they dont pay any attention to common man. One is rightly think that whether PTI is the party of elite only as did other parties????
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