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according to official view,there are 3 portions of this exam:compulsory,optionals and interview.

Compulsory : majority are filtered and their basic knowledge is checked by unknown criteria. 3 or 4 out of 6 compulsory subjects are always low scoring and marked according to opinion oriented examiners.

optionals: based on pure luck and scoring trends make or break merit. remember hard work is a must to be in that scoring trend scenario.

Interview: based on psychological report,personality,IQ,attitudes,knowledge and those super/moderate or poor 30 minutes are final contributors towards one's merit.

in short this was a ridiculous reply from fpsc official

so many factors and one has to be at its toes to cover and fix these all factors.this is on aspirants' part. but on the other hand ,scoring which is solely in the hand of examiners, is the biggest factor of all to decide fate of aspirants.
aspirants with same knowledge,studying from same books/notes and having almost similar writing expression scored differently.
I can only say that one thing that is variable,unpredictable and determines one's fate, is EXAMINER (and his/her mood) on the other side. thats what makes this exam unpredictable to its maximum. what FPSC needs to do is make this factor less unpredictable by changing exam system.so that brilliant ones and those who deserve come to top.Then the merit made will have scores exactly according to aspirants preparation level.
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hmm.. i think candidates ,especially those who cant qualify (or those who dont get allocated) would never be in a position to convince FPSC to improve its system..their criticism, no matter how constructive, would always be labelled as "sour grapeism"by the detractors .Change would probably be more forthcoming if championed by those who successfully navigate these hurdles.their opinion would carry FAR more weightage (even if its exactly synonymous! )

but the catch is once people are through, they dont care anymore. : hence the status quo maintains itself
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Because the trend varies from year to year.No one exactly knows which subject will be high scoring/low scoring.



Just see Usman's DMC.

http://www.cssforum.com.pk/438373-post65.html

P.S My own brother who is masters in Mass communication got 33 in Journalism in C.E 2010(It is considered worst year for Journalism) and I who didn't prepare this subject,got 61 in 2011.Was he confused for his own subject?OR was I did more justice without preparation?



They are exceptional cases.If only one person gets 152 marks in Urdu,it doesn't mean all others were incompetent.Or If only a few cross 100 marks in Indopak then it doesn't mean all others had no grip over it.It means either their luck worked and examiner gave them marks in dizziness or they attempted extra ordinary papers.

So considering average scores,it's all about scoring trend.
Yes that's my point.
Luck gets you the allocation,luck gets you choose the scoring subjects according to the scoring trend of that year.
Hard work is nothing without luck.
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Yes that's my point.
Luck gets you the allocation,luck gets you choose the scoring subjects according to the scoring trend of that year.
Hard work is nothing without luck.
Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

And that there is not for man except that [good] for which he strives. (53:39).

Therefore, I beleive that your perception is wrong in this regard when you say that "Hard work is nothing without luck".

Khudi ko kar buland itna k har taqdeer say pehly,
Khuda banday say khud poochy bata teri raza kia hay. (Iqbal)


Aor aik Musalman ko yeh zaib nahi deta k woh luck wuck ki batain karain. Allah (S.W.T) Quran-e-Majeed main farmata hy k jo shukar karta hy main ussay mazeed deta hoon aor jo Sabar karta hy Main (Allah) usky sath hoon.

Hamain sirf Mehnat karna hay aor faisla Allah (S.W.T) pay chhor dena hy Woh behtar samjhta hy k hamaray Haq main kia behtar hy. Uski Raza pay Razi na hony wala besabra aor Nashukra hy. Aor aisy logon ko Allah (S.W.T) pasand nahi rakhta.

Allah (S.W.T) hum sab ko hidayat ata farmaye.

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In my humble opinion the score depends on examiner's whims,mood, temperament and the timing of marking the papers.....
Everything is decided by Allah Almighty my Dear Who says in His Holy Book.

آخرت اور دنیا تو الله ہی کے ہاتھ میں ہے
Rather, to Allah belongs the Hereafter and the first [life]
(53:25)

اور یہ کہ انسان کو وہی ملتا ہے جس کی وہ کوشش کرتا ہے
And that there is not for man except that [good] for which he strives.
(53:39)

اور یہ کہ اس کی کوشش دیکھی جائے گی
And that his effort is going to be seen -
(53:40)

پھر اس کو اس کا پورا پورا بدلا دیا جائے گا
Then he will be recompensed for it with the fullest recompense.
(53:41)


اور یہ کہ وہ ہنساتا اور رلاتا ہے
And that it is He who makes [one] laugh and weep. (53:43)

اور یہ کہ وہی دولت مند بناتا اور مفلس کرتا ہے
And that it is He who enriches and suffices (53:48)

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Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

And that there is not for man except that [good] for which he strives. (53:39).

Therefore, I beleive that your perception is wrong in this regard when you say that "Hard work is nothing without luck".

Khudi ko kar buland itna k har taqdeer say pehly,
Khuda banday say khud poochy bata teri raza kia hay. (Iqbal)


Aor aik Musalman ko yeh zaib nahi deta k woh luck wuck ki batain karain. Allah (S.W.T) Quran-e-Majeed main farmata hy k jo shukar karta hy main ussay mazeed deta hoon aor jo Sabar karta hy Main (Allah) usky sath hoon.

Hamain sirf Mehnat karna hay aor faisla Allah (S.W.T) pay chhor dena hy Woh behtar samjhta hy k hamaray Haq main kia behtar hy. Uski Raza pay Razi na hony wala besabra aor Nashukra hy. Aor aisy logon ko Allah (S.W.T) pasand nahi rakhta.

Allah (S.W.T) hum sab ko hidayat ata farmaye.



Everything is decided by Allah Almighty my Dear Who says in His Holy Book.

آخرت اور دنیا تو الله ہی کے ہاتھ میں ہے
Rather, to Allah belongs the Hereafter and the first [life]
(53:25)

اور یہ کہ انسان کو وہی ملتا ہے جس کی وہ کوشش کرتا ہے
And that there is not for man except that [good] for which he strives.
(53:39)

اور یہ کہ اس کی کوشش دیکھی جائے گی
And that his effort is going to be seen -
(53:40)

پھر اس کو اس کا پورا پورا بدلا دیا جائے گا
Then he will be recompensed for it with the fullest recompense.
(53:41)


اور یہ کہ وہ ہنساتا اور رلاتا ہے
And that it is He who makes [one] laugh and weep. (53:43)

اور یہ کہ وہی دولت مند بناتا اور مفلس کرتا ہے
And that it is He who enriches and suffices (53:48)
Luck "qismat" ko kehtay hain,qismat "taqdeer" hoti hai jo Allah likhta hai.Insan ko sirf koshish aur tadbeer ka hukam dia gaya hai lekin taqdeer Allah k hath mein hai.Jab insan ko koshish k bawajood bhi matlooba cheez na milay tou is ka matlab k wo us k haq mein behter nae.

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@farrah sis
aik cheez jo tumhe achi lagay aur tumharay haq mein behter na ho aur aik cheez jo tumhe buri lagay lekin tumharay haq mein behter ho,Allah behter janta hai tum nae jantay

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aik cheez jo tumhe achi lagay aur tumharay haq mein behter na ho aur aik cheez jo tumhe buri lagay lekin tumharay haq mein behter ho,Allah behter janta hai tum nae jantay

kindly quote the reference of above saying thnx
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it is quite discouraging... how come? a person with three years experience of appearance in xam could be taken so harshly? well on other hand people with just three months preparation get allocation?
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