Afghanistan : Conflicted Land

assassin007 · #1 Friday, June 29, 2012

Afghanistan has long been used as a battleground for strategic wars by larger external powers. This is in part due to its geographic position between the Middle East, Central Asia and South Asia. In addition, the fragmented and polarised nature of Afghan society, which is made up of many different ethnic groups, has lead to its multiple internal struggles which have gained support from the different external powers. The almost continuous devastation caused to the country for over the past three decades is a testimony to the strength and endurance of its people and the groups who work towards rebuilding their country. Now the question arise that why these external powers have not been able to invade this land?? What's that super natural thing which is not allowing them to invade and rule Afghanistan?? Over to you fellows. .

Arthur · #2 Friday, June 29, 2012

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Afghanistan has long been used as a battleground for strategic wars by larger external powers. This is in part due to its geographic position between the Middle East, Central Asia and South Asia. In addition, the fragmented and polarised nature of Afghan society, which is made up of many different ethnic groups, has lead to its multiple internal struggles which have gained support from the different external powers. The almost continuous devastation caused to the country for over the past three decades is a testimony to the strength and endurance of its people and the groups who work towards rebuilding their country. Now the question arise that why these external powers have not been able to invade this land?? What's that super natural thing which is not allowing them to invade and rule Afghanistan?? Over to you fellows. .

Yes,I agree that Afghanistan has remain a land of warriors.The reason for this is that it a country having mountains and caves.So,no any single power has remained there as permanently dominant.

assassin007 · #3 Friday, June 29, 2012

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Yes,I agree that Afghanistan has remain a land of warriors.The reason for this is that it a country having mountains and caves.So,no any single power has remained there as permanently dominant.

Don't you think science and technology is advance enough to over come these sort of problems??? If an american satellite camera can take a picture of china's president while having tea, then i don't think it's a big deal to work out there?? Whose behind this, who is not letting any external power to capture Afghanistan??? ISI???

Hassan02 · #4 Friday, June 29, 2012

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What's that super natural thing which is not allowing them to invade and rule Afghanistan?? Over to you fellows. .

The extreme resilience of the people. Even Alexander the Great had trouble subduing the region because the natives just wouldn't surrender. They avoided meeting him in a pitched battle and carried on guerrilla campaign, much like the Afghans are doing today, against the Americans.

Its pretty hard to defeat an enemy who has such a high capacity for suffering; who takes whatever you can dish out and still come back and attack the next day.

assassin007 · #5 Friday, June 29, 2012

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The extreme resilience of the people. Even Alexander the Great had trouble subduing the region because the natives just wouldn't surrender. They avoided meeting him in a pitched battle and carried on guerrilla campaign, much like the Afghans are doing today, against the Americans.

Its pretty hard to defeat an enemy who has such a high capacity for suffering; who takes whatever you can dish out and still come back and attack the next day.

That time was different Hassan. . . World has changed now, swords have been replaced by latest weapons, we are having Apache's, f-16's, Drones, guns which can fire a bullet above the range of 2km. . Before people use to draw maps to make strategies but noow there are satellites, GPS and many more . . . even then Americans are failed out there even after waging war for more than 12 years. . why??? Is any body playing Mir Jaffar's role?? Mean to say is anybody deceiving them???

Hassan02 · #6 Friday, June 29, 2012

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That time was different Hassan. . . World has changed now, swords have been replaced by latest weapons, we are having Apache's, f-16's, Drones, guns which can fire a bullet above the range of 2km. . Before people use to draw maps to make strategies but noow there are satellites, GPS and many more . . . even then Americans are failed out there even after waging war for more than 12 years. . why??? Is any body playing Mir Jaffar's role?? Mean to say is anybody deceiving them???

The Afghans are still using more or less the same strategies. As soon as Americans go back from a region, the Taliban move back in. The Taliban are not a conventional army. They are a rebel force, using guerrilla tactics to strike whenever they get the chance. An the terrain doesn't make things any easier. I mean, its really hard to fight in the mountains.

assassin007 · #7 Friday, June 29, 2012

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The Afghans are still using more or less the same strategies. As soon as Americans go back from a region, the Taliban move back in. The Taliban are not a conventional army. They are a rebel force, using guerrilla tactics to strike whenever they get the chance. An the terrain doesn't make things any easier. I mean, its really hard to fight in the mountains.

I don't think americans will quit. . . They have further more reasons to stay over there though they are losing both soldiers and money in a huge amount but it's really not bothering them a bit. Why don't you say that these talibans were generated and were trained very well by americans back in 80-90's and now they are using same techniques against americans?? isn't it?? NO doubt terrain matters alot such as it happened in vietnam war. . both americans and australian soldiers beared more than a loss. . !! But question still remains un-answered. .

Sitaron k aage jahan aur bhi hain. .

Hassan02 · #8 Friday, June 29, 2012

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I don't think americans will quit. . . They have further more reasons to stay over there though they are losing both soldiers and money in a huge amount but it's really not bothering them a bit. Why don't you say that these talibans were generated and were trained very well by americans back in 80-90's and now they are using same techniques against americans?? isn't it?? NO doubt terrain matters alot such as it happened in vietnam war. . both americans and australian soldiers beared more than a loss. . !! But question still remains un-answered. .

Sitaron k aage jahan aur bhi hain. .

Brother another thing to remember is that the Americans want to minimize their causalities, only 1827 US soldiers have died in Afghanistan yet. And if you don't want to put yourself in harm's way you have to compromise on success in the war.

Ya, in Vietnam too the Americans were bogged down by guerrilla warfare.

peacepakistan · #9 Friday, June 29, 2012

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Afghanistan has long been used as a battleground for strategic wars by larger external powers. This is in part due to its geographic position between the Middle East, Central Asia and South Asia. In addition, the fragmented and polarised nature of Afghan society, which is made up of many different ethnic groups, has lead to its multiple internal struggles which have gained support from the different external powers. The almost continuous devastation caused to the country for over the past three decades is a testimony to the strength and endurance of its people and the groups who work towards rebuilding their country. Now the question arise that why these external powers have not been able to invade this land?? What's that super natural thing which is not allowing them to invade and rule Afghanistan?? Over to you fellows. .

The super Natural thing is "Conflicting Interest of Great powers"....Talibans are not fighting with swords or stone throwers, they are properly getting financial, arms, medical, Information and logistic supports. where are they getting this from???that the question thrown over to you fellows

saleem2000 · #10 Friday, June 29, 2012

why beating about the bush???? ISI is playing the double game in the region.