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Its Allah SWT who is going to decide it. Agar Qoum e loot pay azab aya tha tou hamari qoum pay bi a jay ga. issue jb tk highlight ni ho ga tou us ka solution kaise nikaly ga.
Konsa issue dear , Gays ke rights pe debate karne se konsa issue highlight hoga .
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ghalat baat, seedha seedha aik jumla keh den "Gays have no rights in Islam because in Quran Allah (SWT) has condemned similar conduct of Qom-e-Loot" therefore holding such a debate is unIslamic since it will not yield any results compensating with Islam. Itne ghusse kee koi zarurat nahin thi
Sorry bro :p she's my classfellow thats why i was talking to her like that, otherwise i dont talk to every tom dick and harry around, not calling that to you but some other Fixy boii .. u commented so politely that i couldnt resist answering, plus all those members around who dont agree with my view piont i appologize :-)
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Agar aap ko "tu tarakh" main he baat kerni hai to koi aur forum join ker lain.yahan aysa lehja bardasht nhi kia jaye ga.
Agar aap kisi point k khilaf hain to debate karain,fight mat karain.Personal honay ki koi zaroorat nhi.

It is a warning and if you still think you cannot abide by forum rules then stay away from this discussion and forum.
U kindly dont tell me to stay away from the forum, im observing my limits.. why dont u use this red warning and warn those who r directly abusing, doncha see what really wrong is goin on around? show this authority to somebody else! i am strictly abiding by the rules alright!!!!
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Its Allah SWT who is going to decide it. Agar Qoum e loot pay azab aya tha tou hamari qoum pay bi a jay ga. issue jb tk highlight ni ho ga tou us ka solution kaise nikaly ga.
If the debate is on the solution of the issue then there is no problem
but if the debate is on the rights of the gay then there is a problem
in this regards mhmmdkashif is right that "Gays have no rights in Islam"

the debate should be to create awareness and to stop the youth in indulging such disgusting crime and not to mention rights of the gays.
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Konsa issue dear , Gays ke rights pe debate karne se konsa issue highlight hoga .
bahi ap ko kia lgta hay k hamari society main gays nai rehtay. i studied in kinnaird and lahore college r jitnay lasbians ko main nay dekha r jitna un k life style ko dekha hay you don't know. i hate them too. but even my policy is wrong. ap jitna in logon say dour jain gay, in say nafrat krain gay itna ya hum logon say dour jain gay. itna ya problem r zaida brhay gi society main. lakin agar hum is issue pay bat krain gay logon ko educate krain gay , r jb tk ya problem hay society main tb tk is problem ki waja say ban nay wali nai problems ko tackle nai krain gay tb tk situation thek nai ho gi.

bcahon ki child abuse ki problem is liya society main zaida hoi thi k hum sochtay thay k bachon ko kia pata ? but kisi nay ghor hi nai kia k bachon k sath kia ho rha hay unless un main say kuch nay is issue ko btaya. r aj kal bachay sb kuch jantay hain .r this is the fact.
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bahi ap ko kia lgta hay k hamari society main gays nai rehtay. i studied in kinnaird and lahore college r jitnay lasbians ko main nay dekha r jitna un k life style ko dekha hay you don't know. i hate them too. but even my policy is wrong. ap jitna in logon say dour jain gay, in say nafrat krain gay itna ya hum logon say dour jain gay. itna ya problem r zaida brhay gi society main. lakin agar hum is issue pay bat krain gay logon ko educate krain gay , r jb tk ya problem hay society main tb tk is problem ki waja say ban nay wali nai problems ko tackle nai krain gay tb tk situation thek nai ho gi.

bcahon ki child abuse ki problem is liya society main zaida hoi thi k hum sochtay thay k bachon ko kia pata ? but kisi nay ghor hi nai kia k bachon k sath kia ho rha hay unless un main say kuch nay is issue ko btaya. r aj kal bachay sb kuch jantay hain .r this is the fact.
So are you of the view that LGBT people should be given right to marry and make families, is that so, because debating their rights would only go on these things
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bahi ap ko kia lgta hay k hamari society main gays nai rehtay. i studied in kinnaird and lahore college r jitnay lasbians ko main nay dekha r jitna un k life style ko dekha hay you don't know. i hate them too. but even my policy is wrong. ap jitna in logon say dour jain gay, in say nafrat krain gay itna ya hum logon say dour jain gay. itna ya problem r zaida brhay gi society main. lakin agar hum is issue pay bat krain gay logon ko educate krain gay , r jb tk ya problem hay society main tb tk is problem ki waja say ban nay wali nai problems ko tackle nai krain gay tb tk situation thek nai ho gi.

bcahon ki child abuse ki problem is liya society main zaida hoi thi k hum sochtay thay k bachon ko kia pata ? but kisi nay ghor hi nai kia k bachon k sath kia ho rha hay unless un main say kuch nay is issue ko btaya. r aj kal bachay sb kuch jantay hain .r this is the fact.
Dear i have told you that to make this debate productive there are some prerequisites that i have told you in page 2...read them at once...
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Sorry bro :p she's my classfellow thats why i was talking to her like that, otherwise i dont talk to every tom dick and harry around, not calling that to you but some other Fixy boii .. u commented so politely that i couldnt resist answering, plus all those members around who dont agree with my view piont i appologize :-)
agr wo apki classfellow hain to ap kisi aur platform per bhi unhe apne mafuq-uz-zamir bata sakte the. mods can be giving u another lesson on privacy.

Fixii boii? i dont know of any such person dropped in here. i still want to know his name and report to mods.

on politeness: so bazat-e-khud parle darje main jane ko kis ne advise kiya tha?

point of views are not to be apologized for. they are approved or disproved.

i can see mangat1 angling to retire. Hit your bed.
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bi studied in kinnaird and lahore college r jitnay lasbians ko main nay dekha r jitna un k life style ko dekha hay you don't know.
BTW I have studied in village's Government High School aur jitne gays maine dekhe hain you don't know as well
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So are you of the view that LGBT people should be given right to marry and make families, is that so, because debating their rights would only go on these things
you assumed it. debate main dono sides k suni jati hay. debate krnay say un k problems ka pta chlta r hum un problems ko solve kr sktay hain so further aisa na ho. ap ya fact realize ni kr rhay k ya chez hamri society ki roots main penetrate kr gai hay . please come out of this dream k aisa kuch ho nai rha. check your fashion industry 80-90 percent G/L.
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