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well this is not a thing to worry about...why? i have some good reasons...
1: Jews are powerful and wealthy, don't pay attention to that...i quote a following hadith...
once Hazrat Umar R.A went to the house of Prophet (PBUH), what he saw was astonishing, there was a matka(water pot), handful of barley and that's it...that was the whole things found there, he had his eyes full of tears...prophet (PBUH) asked him,Umar why are you weeping? he replied, ya Rasool Ullah, that non believers, kaisar and kasra enjoy the bounties and lead a splendid life while you being the Prophet of Allah (SWT) are in such a situation...
Prophet replied that don't you like that they get all these things in this world(which is temporary) and you get all these things in hereafter which is forever...
it is also said that this World is heaven for kafir and jail for Muslim...
so we must not worry about that thing atleast guys we have things more than Prophet and his companions did so just thank Allah for whatever we are blessed with...he increase that blessing for which you thank him...
2: Muslim are the pioneers of every science...
in his Book Age of Faith, Will Durant writes when Europe languished in dark, the Muslims were illuminating the light in every aspect of knowledge, Avicenna the greatest writer on medicine, Al Razi the greatest physician, Al Beruni the greatest Geographer, Al Haitham the greatest optician, Jabir the greatest chemist, Averroes(Ibn e Rushd) the greatest philosophers, Al Zuhrawi the greatest neurosurgeon, Al Tusi the greatest Mathematician and trigonometric expert and many more...
He further writes when Roger bacon proclaimed the Scientific method to Europe, five years after Jabir, he owed his illumination from Muslim spain..
when the Renaissance pushed forward the frontier of knowledge, they saw further because they stood on the shoulders of the giants of muslim world...
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A Muslim-majority state, as a sharp contrast, has an average literacy rate of around 40 per cent and there is no Muslim-majority state with a literacy rate of 100 per cent.
That is why Muslims are powerless. You may include other factors like sectarian rift, intra-sect conflicting ideologies, lack of unity, backwardness and technical and scientific fields, environment of mutual suspicion, preference of luxury over education, dependence on others for defence.

But the crux you have defined earlier, the muslims are miserably uneducated.
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Jews and Zionists are intertwined, however they are two different things. Not all Jews are Zionists and many Christians themselves are Zionists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism , even there are a few Zionists among muslims http://www.jpost.com/ChristianInIsra...aspx?ID=181905 http://english.alarabiya.net/article...04/218564.html http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/28043
hahaha and you are providing me wikipedia link to prove it lolz where even i can write that I am a Zionist Sir the thing is that you need an in-depth study of Zionism. Not all jews are zinosit this is so true like not all Christians are free masons and all scientists are illuminate. the basic purpose of Zionists is to make a powerful lobby who can safeguard the interests of jews and there isn't any doubt about it. yes they have links in Christian countries, they are controlling America via AIPAC, they are controlling Saudia via America etc.
regarding your point that Muslims and Christians are also Zionist i would say "meer jafir aur meer sadiq har qoum main howa krtay hain " .
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ZIONISTS DO NOT REPRESENT JEWS

JUDAISM is a religions and a tradition.

ZIONISM is a politicial ideology.

Judaism refers to the values, rites and beliefs of the Jewish people.

Zionism refers to the idea that the Jewish people must relocate from the diaspora to their ancestral homeland.

The problem with the Zionist idea is two fold:

Most Jewish people are throughly intermingled with other races and cultures. So much so, that Israel requires only proof of one Jewish grandparent.

Zionism inevitably means that the native peoples of the holy land, the Palestinians, are displaced even though they have more of a right to be there in the first place.
 Immediately at the founding of the Zionist movement, masses of Jews under the leadership of their Rabbis, launched a heavy battle against Zionism. Their attack was directed not only at the non-religious Zionist idea, but rather, primarily at its opposition to the Torah-ordained path that Jewry must follow while in exile. As such, the Zionists incited the nations of the world, demanding political sovereignty over the Holy Land while remaining oblivious to the resentment this would arouse In the Palestinian Arabs, the land's veteran inhabitants. As stated, the leaders of Orthodox Jewry vehemently opposed the movement with all force.
 The Zionists refused to heed the voice of the Rabbis and Torah authority. They persisted in their ways until they succeeded in influencing the British government to issue the Balfour Declaration concerning the "establishment of a national home for the Jews in the land of Israel." To our great sorrow, from that point on began the deterioration of the good relations between the Jews and the Arab inhabitants of the land. This occurred because the Arab people understood that the Zionists wished to seize ruler ship from them. In addition, the Arab people had suspicions as if the Jewish people wished to seize control of the Temple Mount and other similar sites. Matters worsened as a result.......
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please i am a new reader of such things can you people kindly explain me in easy words about zionism and how are they controlling america it is a superpower
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hahaha and you are providing me wikipedia link to prove it lolz where even i can write that I am a Zionist .
Fine, if you are a Zionist then do write it there , you seem to be fully aware how they control the world as well, like a WZO member .

How can AIPAC alone control entire USA government unless it doesn't have support from other circles Are you aware of William Hecchler (a christian)'s role in support of Theodore Herzl to found the WZO
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please i am a new reader of such things can you people kindly explain me in easy words about zionism and how are they controlling america it is a superpower
here you go

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=20877


@alihashmatkhoso if the jews have so much problem with Zionist why don't they leave Israel and most of the members of Knesset are pro-Zionism . can you explain why? secondly,Two nation theory was an ideology based on the religion of the Muslims and hindus of sub-continent and Zionism is an ideology based on the religious thoughts of jews. they just want to empower the jews and maintain their domination. read the above given link and you would known how they are manipulating the things in favour of Israel and who is living in Israel that i don't have to tell.

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Fine, if you are a Zionist then do write it there , you seem to be fully aware how they control the world as well, like a WZO member .

How can AIPAC alone control entire USA government unless it doesn't have support from other circles
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But the crux you have defined earlier, the muslims are miserably uneducated.
For a long time I also held these views that muslims are uneducated, only recently I began to think "what is this education and awareness after all that muslims are not getting" . Are Muslims not educated in Science , are Muslims not educated in Philosophy , do Muslims not know technology , are Muslims not skilled , aren't they aware what is happening in the world ;; I mean it is really baffling to discover what education Muslims don't have, they have it all, if one assumes every single of the 1.4 billion Muslim should be educated with all the knowledge of the universe then it is simply not possible, not even every single Jew of the world know it all. Its all about organization of the nation, Jewish societies are organic and disciplined, they know their objective, therefore they can take full advantage of their skills. The major problem with Muslims is they are unable to come out of their vested interests and prejudice towards fellow Muslims which is keeping them from determining their objective and organizing the ummah and planning as a unit or a body, thats all . Muslim religious and political leadership as well as the elites is to be blamed for all this, they are not opening up their minds to the world .

So the point is, education without objective and organized pursuit of the objective is no use
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So the point is, education without objective and organized pursuit of the objective is no use
Islam is a complete code of life. Muslims do get education. Do unite at Ka'aba. But they listen to the blind man who speaks to the top of his voice only to forget as soon as they leave. The only platform of the Muslims is weak.
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Why are Muslims so powerless?


There are an estimated 1,476,233,470 Muslims on the face of the planet: one billion in Asia, 400 million in Africa, 44 million in Europe and six million in the Americas . Every fifth human being is a Muslim; for every single Hindu there are two Muslims, for every Buddhist there are two Muslims and for every Jew there are one hundred Muslims.

A Muslim-majority state, as a sharp contrast, has an average literacy rate of around 40 per cent and there is no Muslim-majority state with a literacy rate of 100 per cent.


There are only 14 million Jews in the world; seven million in the Americas, five million in Asia, two million in Europe and 100,000 in Africa. For every single Jew in the world there are 100 Muslims.

Yet, Jews are more than a hundred times more powerful than all the Muslims put together.

Ever wondered why?

Over the past 105 years, 14 million Jews have won 15-dozen Nobel Prizes while only three Nobel Prizes have been won by 1.4 billion Muslims (other than Peace Prizes).
They(Jewish) are united and we(Muslims) are divided. . . Both are fighting for their cause but Jewish lobby has pretty good command over themselves and in our case we even don't agree on same day for eid to be celebrated than what we will fight for our cause. just take an example of 7 days war. . . it will show you a clear cut picture of our unity.
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