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First you have to decide what you mean by being powerful?

I will define power as " ability to influence and control others".

I cant see any where that jews are influencing or controlling others ( specially muslims) by themselves.They dont have any special power or influence over other people or nations.

The notion that Israel is controlling USA is wrong.It is the other way round. Israel is supported and Backed by United states for its own Strategic advantages. Why we think Americans are fool? They dont know why their government is doling out funds to Israel? Why USA always veto any step taken by United Nations for establishing peace in the middle east?

As far as Research and inventions are concerned , we must accept that Jews are relatively better than Muslims in these fields.You forgot to mention that both muslim nobel laureates (excluding Mohammad Younas) who won nobel prizes (in natural sciences) worked in foreign non-muslim nations and of the many dozens of jews majority of them (except 3) worked in other nations than in Israel.

So i may accept the notion that muslims are powerless but i will disagree with the belief that Jews are Powerful.(because if they were powerful on their own, Israel would have been the most powerful country in terms of economy and defence)

Why muslims are so powerless can be attributed to many factors from lack of education to blaming external factors (Fate, destiny, Other nations) for their present dreadful circumstances.

In my opinion we do not need genius muslim scholars (as we have plenty of them among us) but a system which can help these geniuses to prove their talents.

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ZIONISTS DO NOT REPRESENT JEWS

JUDAISM is a religions and a tradition.

ZIONISM is a politicial ideology.

Judaism refers to the values, rites and beliefs of the Jewish people.

Zionism refers to the idea that the Jewish people must relocate from the diaspora to their ancestral homeland.

The problem with the Zionist idea is two fold:

Most Jewish people are throughly intermingled with other races and cultures. So much so, that Israel requires only proof of one Jewish grandparent.

Zionism inevitably means that the native peoples of the holy land, the Palestinians, are displaced even though they have more of a right to be there in the first place.
 Immediately at the founding of the Zionist movement, masses of Jews under the leadership of their Rabbis, launched a heavy battle against Zionism. Their attack was directed not only at the non-religious Zionist idea, but rather, primarily at its opposition to the Torah-ordained path that Jewry must follow while in exile. As such, the Zionists incited the nations of the world, demanding political sovereignty over the Holy Land while remaining oblivious to the resentment this would arouse In the Palestinian Arabs, the land's veteran inhabitants. As stated, the leaders of Orthodox Jewry vehemently opposed the movement with all force.
 The Zionists refused to heed the voice of the Rabbis and Torah authority. They persisted in their ways until they succeeded in influencing the British government to issue the Balfour Declaration concerning the "establishment of a national home for the Jews in the land of Israel." To our great sorrow, from that point on began the deterioration of the good relations between the Jews and the Arab inhabitants of the land. This occurred because the Arab people understood that the Zionists wished to seize ruler ship from them. In addition, the Arab people had suspicions as if the Jewish people wished to seize control of the Temple Mount and other similar sites. Matters worsened as a result.......
Aliyah (Jewish Nationalism aur Eretz Israel (Palestine) main Jewish state kee establishment) Jewish religion kaa hissa hai, to Zionism ko Jewish religion se alag nahin kia jaa sakta. Laikin Zionism kee approaches pe Jews main differences zaroor hain. For example World Zionist Organization 1897 main Theodore Herzl aur Max Nordau kee sarbarahi main wajood main aayi. Yeh aik political movement thi jis kaa objective yeh tha ke Palestine main legally aur publicly aik Jewish state ko wajood main laya jaaye. Inhi kee koshishon ke natije main 1917 main Balfour Declaration hui aur phir 1948 main Israel wajood main aaya. Israel ke wajood main aane ke baad WZO kee aik wing Jewish Agency for Israel active reh gayi hai aur is kaa kaam dunya bhar se Jews ko Israel main laana yaa phir un ko Israel se connected rakhna hai. AIPAC aur dusre mulkun main pro zionist lobbies ko coordinate yehi agency karti hai. is approach ko political zionism kehte hain aur filwaqt yehi sab se organized aur taqatwar hain. is se pehle jis approach pe ziada focus tha us ko practical zionism kehte the aur woh Odessa Committee ke tahat organized thi. is approach ke mutabiq pehle puri dunya se Jews Eretz Israel (promised land) main abad honge aur phir Jewish nation aur state wajood main aaye gee. yeh approach bunyadi tarah nakam ho gayi aur aahista aahista WZO main merge ho gayi. is ke allawa buhut saari dusri Zionist movements bhi hain e.g. Labor Zionism, Revisionist Zionism, Cultural Zionism, Revolutionary Zionism aur Religious Zionism.

Jews ke andar buhut saare anti-zionist aur non-zionist view points mojud hain. maslan kuch Jewish religious groups messiah ke aane se pehle Jewish state ke qayam ko sahi nahin samajhte. magar aise view point holders itne politically organized nahin hain so

Now coming back to the question why Jews are powerful, aisa sirif is liye hai ke Jews sadion (balke milleniums, way before dawn of Islam) se apne objective (Aliyah) ko haasil karne kee koshish karte rahe hain. woh apne bunyadi maqsad pe puri tarah se unanimous aur focused rahe hain. un kee modern world kee development main contribution buhut ziada hai. science aur technology kee advancement, buhut saare modern economic aur political systems aur ideologies Jews ke hee brainchild hain. modern financial system ko to puri tarah se Jews ne hee khara kia hai. zionism ke kuch views biblical prophecies se bhi mil jaate hain to in ko christians ke kuch segments se bhi support mil jaati hai. jab ke musalmano ko Allah pak ne apna paigham bhaija aur un ko taqat dee ke Allah kaa paigham puri dunya main phelao aur Jews aur Christians ko raaste pe laao, magar musalman dusrun tak to kia Allah kaa paigham puhunchate aapas main hee tafarqe main par gaye aur us iqtidar ke peeche bhaagne lage jo ke Allah kee amanat tha . aisa kare gaa to mare gaa
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A simple reply to this question.
LACK OF EDUCATION!!!
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Just wished to share a historic fact, millions of dollars collected by world Jewry in the past to build the world's largest synagogue, were as a substitute, spent on education. Consequently not a single Jew remains illiterate today.
On the other end of the spectrum, we muslims during the mughal era, spent millions on building monuments, buildings, enjoying the company of women etc paying little heed over importance of education., ignorant of the absolute truth 'knowledge is power'!
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