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Saleeqa Batool Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:04 PM

Khan Sb should learn Constitutional History of Pakistan
 
With due appology to the lovers of Imran Khan(and personally i have no doubt in his sinerecity), Imran Khan Sb has said that

[quote][B]The PTI wanted setting up of a neutral caretaker setup, according to the spirit of the orignal 1973 Constitution[/B][/quote]

I am utterly shocked to read this statement as there was no concept of care taker set up in 1973 constitution as first election under the constitution were held by Bhutto himself as Chief Executive(PM) of the country.The concept of care taker was introduced through a presdential ordinance after BB's government was dissolved. Later on Mushraf's LFO had a provision relating to care taker set up that was subsequently made part of constitution (Article 224-1A) and laterly amended vide 18th amendment.

In the same manner, Khan Sb's insistence for resignation of zardari may result in another PPP's stalwart coming to the Presidency as under article 41 of the constitution new president has to be elected with in 30 days of President's resignation. If Zardari resigns today, it will confirm a new PPP President for another 5 years , given PPP's strength in current electoral college of the President.

Jahangeer khan Sunday, January 27, 2013 04:08 PM

imran khan abhe tak koi waziya nahe bata saka hain ka woe system ko kis tarha chalaein ga.....:thinking

srk345 Sunday, January 27, 2013 04:56 PM

I believe he is much better than others. Introduced 4,5 policies. But ground realities are that he is a failed politician despite of being an inspirational person. He would end up winning 4,5 seats. Unfortunately he cant survive before zrdari and sharif.

desertrain Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:23 PM

With Great Respect Sister!

He might have said this. But , It would have been alot more better If you had posted the link instead of just 'Quoting' him.

And to all those who raise questions like 'How would he do all this and bla bla' .. Kindly tell me If they have some better option, i will definitely change my mind about voting for Khan then.
Because I recckon it more preferrable to rely on Inexperience but Honest person than getting bitten by the same snake over and over.

ibrarkhan Monday, January 28, 2013 12:47 AM

[QUOTE=Saleeqa Batool;547450]With due appology to the lovers of Imran Khan(and personally i have no doubt in his sinerecity), Imran Khan Sb has said that



I am utterly shocked to read this statement as there was no concept of care taker set up in 1973 constitution as first election under the constitution were held by Bhutto himself as Chief Executive(PM) of the country.The concept of care taker was introduced through a presdential ordinance after BB's government was dissolved. Later on Mushraf's LFO had a provision relating to care taker set up that was subsequently made part of constitution (Article 224-1A) and laterly amended vide 18th amendment.

In the same manner, Khan Sb's insistence for resignation of zardari may result in another PPP's stalwart coming to the Presidency as under article 41 of the constitution new president has to be elected with in 30 days of President's resignation. If Zardari resigns today, it will confirm a new PPP President for another 5 years , given PPP's strength in current electoral college of the President.[/QUOTE]

Would you mind explaining How should another PPP stalwart be elected in case Zardari resigns, provided the Assemblies remain dissolved?
I think you misquoted Khan as he was also asking for immediate dissolution of the Assemblies.

Saleeqa Batool Monday, January 28, 2013 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=desertrain;547719]With Great Respect Sister!

He might have said this. But , It would have been alot more better If you had posted the link instead of just 'Quoting' him.

And to all those who raise questions like 'How would he do all this and bla bla' .. Kindly tell me If they have some better option, i will definitely change my mind about voting for Khan then.
Because I recckon it more preferrable to rely on Inexperience but Honest person than getting bitten by the same snake over and over.[/QUOTE]

LAHORE – Warning the ruling coalition of another long march, PTI Chairman, Imran Khan on Tuesday demanded immediate resignation of President Asif Ali Zardari and formation of consensus-based caretaker setup. Imran, addressing a press conference, put forward a seven-point agenda to the government for steering the country out of the chaotic situation. He also asked his party workers to be ready for his call to launch a tsunami march if the ruling alliance failed to meet his demand of consensus-based interim setup. He said, “I don’t expect fair and free elections in the presence of P[B]resident Zardari, so he should resign for the sake of transparent and fair polls[/B].” The PTI chief also demanded immediate announcement of schedule for the next elections and reconstitution of the Election Commission. He said while forming an interim setup, the two parties, PPP and PML-N, should take all the political forces on board. He said all the accused should be arrested, implementing the Supreme Court decision. He also demanded arrest of the culprits involved in the Quetta carnage and award of exemplary punishment to them. Imran said though the PTI had trust in the chief election commissioner, the two ruling parties at Centre and in the Punjab used public funds for their campaign in the recently held by-polls. He added one party was distributing laptops, while the other was using Benazir Income Support Programme, at the cost of the public funds, to advance their pre-electoral drive. Imran alleged Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf had used Rs 35 billion in his constituency out of the public kitty, demanding a probe into it. He said t[B]he PTI wanted setting up of a neutral caretaker setup, according to the spirit of the 1973 Constitution[/B]. He said the ruling coalition should immediately announce schedule for the next polls in order to put an end to the ongoing uncertainty. The PTI chairman urged Zardari to resign as it was feared that he would attempt to steal the next polls by using huge funds. Responding to a query, Imran said had Dr Qadri consulted PTI, he would have joined the Minhaj chief for bringing a change in the country. He, however, said the PTI believed in change through vote and on-time holding of the next general elections. Imran maintained the PTI would not support any extra-constitutional act and believed in the implementation and supremacy of the Constitution. Responding to another question, Imran claimed Dr Qadri’s march had exposed all deals between PPP and PML-N. He warned the government of serious repercussions if it used force against the peaceful marchers. PTI Vice Chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi, President Javed Hashmi and other senior leaders were also present on this occasion.

[url]http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/editors-picks/16-Jan-2013/imran-khan-warns-of-another-tsunami-march[/url]

mechrose37 Monday, January 28, 2013 05:24 PM

One has no right to question the sincerity of Imran Khan but his grip on social,economic and political affairs is highly questionable.What Miss.Batool has shared is only one of the countless examples where Imran has raised apprehensions of people about his grasp on aforementioned affairs.

Saleeqa Batool Monday, January 28, 2013 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=mechrose37;547963]One has no right to question the sincerity of Imran Khan but his grip on social,economic and political affairs is highly questionable.What Miss.Batool has shared is only one of the countless examples where Imran has raised apprehensions of people about his grasp on aforementioned affairs.[/QUOTE]

This is the point. Imran Khan's service to to the nation is second to none , at least in the current political lot. His sincerity is byond shadow of doubt but his command over contemporary issues raise doubt over his ability to be an outstanding leader.Yesterday, in afternoon he announced to join PML(N) Sit in and latter on with drawn his decision.

Inspite of these flaws , i am sure he 'll prove much better, if voted to power, from the rest of politicions who have been tested already. However, he should realise that he needs to correct himself. One's learning process never ends , and Mr Khan is no exception to this rule.

aariz Tuesday, January 29, 2013 05:18 AM

@saleeqa Batool.
With due respect, IK is not a constitutional expert and can commit mistakes. Sometimes it happens with us that we want to say something another but we utter some different words to express the idea and in result the listener get another meaning.
Second, LHC has asked the President to quit either presidency or the party post. Head of the state must be neutral. More, it has been learnt that billions of rupees will be utilized by the President and his team to purchase votes. Pre poll rigging has started. In this case, the resignation is justified.
Apart from the raising points, IK is the only leader in Pakistan after BB who elaborates his point of view on every issue clearly. PTI is the only party is South Asia which is currently going through intra party elections from the district level to regional level. Happening first time in the political history of South Asia. Two days ago, same PPP stalwarts were selected for main party posts of the PPP. All ppp members were elected without any rival contest. Democracy within the party ensures the democratic decisions in the party and its impact is seen on national level if in power.
In addition, PTI is the only political party of Pakistan that presents shadow policies though PTI is not in the parliament. PML N JUIF PML F rattle opposition desks but havnt presented shadow policies against the govt.
I personally feel IK does not deserve Pakistanis. We the nation deserve monarchy oriented and dynastic leaders.

aukmarwat Tuesday, January 29, 2013 05:47 AM

[QUOTE=mechrose37;547963]One has no right to question the sincerity of Imran Khan but his grip on social,economic and political affairs is highly questionable.What Miss.Batool has shared is only one of the countless examples where Imran has raised apprehensions of people about his grasp on aforementioned affairs.[/QUOTE]
Countless? Would you mind quoting some others? And the people in the present setup, despite being well versed in the aforementioned affairs (as much as i can understand, that's what you statement implies), are better option as compared to imran?? Considering the time span, i think imran khan has evolved as a far better politician compared to others. A person with a vision and real homework (Not some pony BISP or Cab Program) to support his vision.

Cute Badshah Tuesday, January 29, 2013 07:34 AM

Its quiet interesting to note how badly people are obsessed from Imran Khan & PTI's increasing popularity, from the past year and a half. They never take notice of other party leaders U-turns and there face-saving deals, and false accusations on Imran K, which often back-fired. They never miss a chance on which IK can be hold, even for a slight mistake of his. All they know is that: IK should learn Constitutional History of Pakistan, Imran Khan should learn this, Imran Khan should learn that. No other Politician should learn anything, not even Surah-Ikhlas.

Imran Khan, just like any other human, he too is liable to say something erratic, and whoelse doesn't? These things are ubiquitous in today's political arena. You can't follow up his every letter and word. I can count a few defects and mistakes of Imran Khan but this isn't really a time to hold your vote in your hand and start to think: Imran Khan doesn't know the Constitutional history of Pakistan, so better I should vote to some Mr. XYZ. Do critisize Imran K but on solid reason and for some purpose. Imran Khan, by virtue of his credibility and straight-forwardness, is the most trusted person to be voted against the double faced, corrupt lot out there.

P.S: @ Saleeqa Batool
My post isn't in direct response to your post, though your post hold water. I've posted in response what I perceived lobbying against Khan Sb for the last couple of months in news media and from some writers.

Regards,

Saleeqa Batool Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=Cute Badshah;548199]Its quiet interesting to note how badly people are obsessed from Imran Khan & PTI's increasing popularity, from the past year and a half. They never take notice of other party leaders U-turns and there face-saving deals, and false accusations on Imran K, which often back-fired. They never miss a chance on which IK can be hold, even for a slight mistake of his. All they know is that: IK should learn Constitutional History of Pakistan, Imran Khan should learn this, Imran Khan should learn that. No other Politician should learn anything, not even Surah-Ikhlas.

Imran Khan, just like any other human, he too is liable to say something erratic, and whoelse doesn't? These things are ubiquitous in today's political arena. You can't follow up his every letter and word. I can count a few defects and mistakes of Imran Khan but this isn't really a time to hold your vote in your hand and start to think: Imran Khan doesn't know the Constitutional history of Pakistan, so better I should vote to some Mr. XYZ. Do critisize Imran K but on solid reason and for some purpose. Imran Khan, by virtue of his credibility and straight-forwardness, is the most trusted person to be voted against the double faced, corrupt lot out there.

P.S: @ Saleeqa Batool
My post isn't in direct response to your post, though your post hold water. I've posted in response what I perceived lobbying against Khan Sb for the last couple of months in news media and from some writers.

Regards,[/QUOTE]

Well i have repeatedly said that i have no doubt in sincerity of Imran Khan.But no individual can claim infalibility and same holds true for IK. Healthy criticisam results in improvement.Look Imran Khan Sb's PTI has been loosing in electoral politics and there are his own mistakes behind it.If he is not going to learn from these mistakes then Pakistanis would lose a sincere leader.

Khan Sb is habitual in taking a stand and then goes on back foot. Few months before he thundered on PML N during a press conference by showing evidences of corruption against Sharifs. He also vowed to take this matter to the Court so as to bring the Sharifs to book. But latter on, he didnt proceed. I dont know the reasons behind it, but had he stood by his words, he would have earned more confidence of the public. This is one example ,though i can quote many.

I again repeat, he is sincere and in any case more trusted than other political lot. He should be preffered over the crimnials. But should people not expect from him to improve his standing. So far , he has not put forth any clear policy as to how he will confront the challenges that our country is facing? End of corruption in 90 days is nothing short of a jock.

Thats said, Mr Khan should respond the trust public has posed in him by bringing improvement in himself and it will be beneficial not only for himself but for the people of Pakistan.

Cute Badshah Thursday, January 31, 2013 01:10 AM

[QUOTE=Saleeqa Batool;549039]Well i have repeatedly said that i have no doubt in sincerity of Imran Khan.But no individual can claim infalibility and same holds true for IK. Healthy criticisam results in improvement.Look Imran Khan Sb's PTI has been loosing in electoral politics and there are his own mistakes behind it.If he is not going to learn from these mistakes then Pakistanis would lose a sincere leader.

Khan Sb is habitual in taking a stand and then goes on back foot. Few months before he thundered on PML N during a press conference by showing evidences of corruption against Sharifs. He also vowed to take this matter to the Court so as to bring the Sharifs to book. But latter on, he didnt proceed. I dont know the reasons behind it, but had he stood by his words, he would have earned more confidence of the public. This is one example ,though i can quote many.

I again repeat, he is sincere and in any case more trusted than other political lot. He should be preffered over the crimnials. But should people not expect from him to improve his standing. So far , he has not put forth any clear policy as to how he will confront the challenges that our country is facing? End of corruption in 90 days is nothing short of a jock.

Thats said, Mr Khan should respond the trust public has posed in him by bringing improvement in himself and it will be beneficial not only for himself but for the people of Pakistan.[/QUOTE]

Fully agree with your viewpoint. I also endorse healthy critcism for some substantial end. I believe in putting check on the person whom you are favoring in election, to bring about the desired results. People go the other way around by favoring a candidate blindly and then suffer its consequences. Though, there might be drawbacks in everyone, nonetheless, we are free to choose the best in the worst. :)

Neo[t] Monday, February 04, 2013 07:50 PM

I appreciate your concern but let me explain that we've seen everyone else that how they ran the system of the country and now our only hope left is Khan sb. Lets give him a try if he can get success by his own and run the system according to the requirements of the country and public.


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