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Question Impact of new Province in Punjab on CSS aspirants!!

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As we all know that efforts are being made to divide the province of Punjab, though it is a game of point scoring but it is also the harbinger of a great disaster (I think) for CSS Aspirants from Punjab. If there is a new province then there will definitely be there quota in CSS. I think it is a nightmare, not for the inhabitants of these areas, but for the potential aspirants of competitive exams, my reasons are following.
  1. The new province will have its own quota.
  2. Majority of Aspirants (also potential ones) belong to either central or Northern Punjab, so the competition in Punjab is already tough and it will get tougher.
  3. The quota is given on the basis of population, majority of seats of United Punjab will go to newly formed province, these areas do not have majority of competent aspirants but majority of population so seats will go wasted as happens in Sindh.
  4. Aspirants from central and Northern Punjab will suffer as already scarce seats will further be reduced.

Now over to you guys, is this my apprehension or there is any chance that new province comes into existence but seats of United Punjab are intact?
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Question Impact of new Province in Punjab on CSS aspirants!!

AOA dear members!
I have some confusions regarding new province in Punjab. I am CSS aspirant and wanna know the advantages and disadvantages of new province and its overall impact on economy, infrastructure, employment, education and etc? And as a CSS aspirants what will be the benefits and disadvantages for me? I am from southern Punjab. Please clear all these questions. Seniors please respond. Thanks in advance.
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ok let me tell you....

1.the more there would be administrative units,the more the governance would become efficient and decidedly development oriented.

2.more provinces will lessen the prevailing acrinomy, mutual apprehensions and tensions between the four provices.

3.it would readily assuage the sense of deprivation and discrimination
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Dear you are right. But you didn't clear my point exactly for CSS aspirants. Any advantage specially for us? What will be the procedure?

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ok let me tell you....

1.the more there would be administrative units,the more the governance would become efficient and decidedly development oriented.

2.more provinces will lessen the prevailing acrinomy, mutual apprehensions and tensions between the four provices.

3.it would readily assuage the sense of deprivation and discrimination
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Dear you are right. But you didn't clear my point exactly for CSS aspirants. Any advantage specially for us? What will be the procedure?
as css aspirant the advantage for us hmmmm......oh yes more seats will be created for Future CSPs...more employment...abhi to mary mind ma ye hi kuch ha
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AOA dear members!
I have some confusions regarding new province in Punjab. I am CSS aspirant and wanna know the advantages and disadvantages of new province and its overall impact on economy, infrastructure, employment, education and etc? And as a CSS aspirants what will be the benefits and disadvantages for me? I am from southern Punjab. Please clear all these questions. Seniors please respond. Thanks in advance.
The 50% quota of Punjab province will be further bifurcated, it is unclear in what proportion. The population factor will be taken into consideration. But above all, it is uncertain as to whether one new province will be carved out from Punjab or more. To me, the situation would become more like Sindh (U) and Sindh (R), with the youth of Southern Punjab less priviliged and less educated in comparison to the Northern Punjab.

On a different note, despite being a supporter of new provinces for streamlined management and administration of the country, I personally think it is not the right time to take this decision. With the little time the assemblies have been left with, I am afraid, keeping in view their track record, they might take a decision that would do more harm and tarnish the practical and useful aspect of this plan. This whole episode by the ruling PPP is to gain political milage to exploit in the upcoming elections and might result in a sense of deprivation in the people of Punjab. New provinces are iminent, but not specifically in Punjab or on ethnic basis rather in entire country and on non-ethnic, purely administrative basis.

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Respectable Mr Bilal Hassn ,why u r so much insecure . I thnk one shd b very confident iv he/she realy hv some potential . Additionaly i would like to say that in pakistan only few cities( isalamabad , karachi , lahore )exist .I think u shd thnk across the board .

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The 50% quota of Punjab province will be further bifurcated, it is unclear in what proportion. The population factor will be taken into consideration. But above all, it is uncertain as to whether one new province will be carved out from Punjab or more. To me, the situation would become more like Sindh (U) and Sindh (R), with the youth of Southern Punjab less privileged and less educated in comparison to the Northern Punjab.
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According to me , what u said is called discrimination , am gonna give an example of injustice and discrimination ,that in Southern Punjab there are only two universities (islamia ,BZU) and in Northern Punjab.............. i hope u got my point .

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Respectable Mr Bilal Hassn ,why u r so much insecure . I thnk one shd b very confident iv he/she realy hv some potential . Additionaly i would like to say that in pakistan only few cities( isalamabad , karachi , lahore )exist .I think u shd thnk across the board .

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According to me , what u said is called discrimination , am gonna give an example of injustice and discrimination ,that in Southern Punjab there are only two universities (islamia ,BZU) and in Northern Punjab.............. i hope u got my point .
I would dare disagree here. First, kindly revisit my post. For a ready reference here is what I said:

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[...] To me, the situation would become more like Sindh (U) and Sindh (R), with the youth of Southern Punjab less priviliged and less educated in comparison to the Northern Punjab.
Obviously, the youth, in specific, and the peaple, in general, are deprived of their basic rights. If taken in its true sense, this statement supports the idea of new provinces and indeed, I agree that new provinces should be made, as already mentioned in my previous post.

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On a different note, despite being a supporter of new provinces for streamlined management and administration of the country, I personally think it is not the right time to take this decision. With the little time the assemblies have been left with, I am afraid, keeping in view their track record, they might take a decision that would do more harm and tarnish the practical and useful aspect of this plan. This whole episode by the ruling PPP is to gain political milage to exploit in the upcoming elections and might result in a sense of deprivation in the people of Punjab. New provinces are iminent, but not specifically in Punjab or on ethnic basis rather in entire country and on non-ethnic, purely administrative basis.
Now, I reiterate that new provinces should be made but not on ethnic basis but on administrative basis. Making of Saraiki Province, Hazara Province, Muhajir Province etc would merely increase the differences between the peoples. Apart from making two or three provinces, I think all the divisions of the country should be made provinces or 3-4 divisions should be united as a province. Rest asure, assemblies left with only days of their tenure should not take such an important decision. The new assemblies should take the matter up in their initial gatherings.

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Dear all,
As we all know that efforts are being made to divide the province of Punjab, though it is a game of point scoring but it is also the harbinger of a great disaster (I think) for CSS Aspirants from Punjab. If there is a new province then there will definitely be there quota in CSS. I think it is a nightmare, not for the inhabitants of these areas, but for the potential aspirants of competitive exams, my reasons are following.
  1. The new province will have its own quota.
  2. Majority of Aspirants (also potential ones) belong to either central or Northern Punjab, so the competition in Punjab is already tough and it will get tougher.
  3. The quota is given on the basis of population, majority of seats of United Punjab will go to newly formed province, these areas do not have majority of competent aspirants but majority of population so seats will go wasted as happens in Sindh.
  4. Aspirants from central and Northern Punjab will suffer as already scarce seats will further be reduced.

Now over to you guys, is this my apprehension or there is any chance that new province comes into existence but seats of United Punjab are intact?
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Your cry mirrors your incompetence. If you had gutts/competence/capabilities,you would have not cried in such a way.
You called division of Punjab a game and covered it with your hollow istances like wastage of Sindh quota ets.which is baseless and doesn't make any sense.
You have enjoyed more than 50% share in every domain. Be it CSS,be it Budget,be it NFC and even more than 60% CNG stations are in Punjab and they demand the smae proportion of gas despite the fact that Punjab doesn't have any contribution in gas discovery. If you see Punjab from the angle of revenue generation, that is alson not worthy of being awarded such chunk from every cake which has caused crunch in every sector.

Dear Bilal, the most important thing that you must keep in mind is that Pakistan is not the name of Punjab alone, there are other provinces too which are also as significant as Punjab.

We have not cried for your 50% quota enjoyment since the inception of Pakistan under one and only umbrella of Population Factor, now why should you.

Now such enjoyments will be dream for you or you have aptly said it as a nightmare. Dear don't worry you will get used to such nightmares.

Time is not to raise your hollow hue and cry as you did but it is time that you must get yourself used to your being away from such enjoyments.

Because the game of absurd musical chair in which there used to be only one
chair and one runner around the chair will no longer be farced.

The bunk of game is over ......... Because every rise has a fall!!!!!
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