Any optimism about Govt-Taliban Dialogues?
 

So much for the kick start of the peace talks! Do you thing, any negotiations between government and the Taliban would bring desire results.? I know "Dialogues are the best way to solve any issue", but how can Taliban change their mindset after "peace talks"??...personally, I am in favor of operation against the Talibans. What Do you thing?:confused:
Regards

Because it appears that the majority of the people do not want operation against the Taliban. In the recent months, opinion has shifted to some extent, but the bulk of the population remains utterly confused. Our religious "scholars", who virtually have a monopoly over the religious views of the people of this unfortunate country, seem on the side of the TTP instead of Pakistan. For them, the demands of TTP are perfectly all right, it's just the mechanism which is wrong. These contractors of religion have done more damage than anyone else.

As for Pakistani military, it fathered Taliban during and after the glorious Afghan "jihad" (when the US and Saudi Arabia used us like you-know-what) and now it seems that the progeny has turned against the military. If military really wants a stable Pakistan, it will have to deal with the TTP, as well as their supporters, with a firm hand. Politicians traditionally have little say in Pakistan when it comes to policy matters but they need to show some spine too.

Additionally, the problem will not be solved even if TTP is eliminated yet outfits such as JuD, LeJ, ASWJ et al are given free hand to propagate their sectarian and violent ideologies in the society at large.

Talks are deemed to fail; it's just a matter of time. What's important is how we decide to deal with this menace after that time. It's absurd that we are going into talks without any kind of terms and conditions. What are going to talk about? No one has a clue. As a matter of fact, Taliban put forward their demands to be fulfilled before the talks. This is what the victors in WWII did with Germany before pinning the Versailles treaty on her. We are already acting like defeated nations.

[QUOTE=Sociologist PU;691794]Agree with Maha khan and Gypsified that talks will not bear any fruit. Then, why they are going into negotiation ?[/QUOTE]

I think "peace-talks" are just a drama, and government will soon start operation against these terrorists who are spoiling the image of Islam and Pakistan. :blink...what they want in this Islamic Republic??..their own version of Islam? according to which only they are "Muslim" and others are dubbed as'Kafir"..Nobody, can raise his voice against their intolerant behavior.: cow... The Taliban representative talking about the Express Tv channel said "Media should support us, otherwise we know how to teach a lesson to our opponents,".? There is a news that there are some anchors and journalists in Media who are the supporters of Taliban .So ,is it not proper to say Good Bye to Pakistan in order to live a peaceful life and to get a secure place for our families to live in.?
Regards

Dialogue is a farce and the Taliban know how to turn it to their advantage. All this confusion about dialogue, to whom did it help? Of course, the Taliban. Now when the PM gave a go-ahead to the military op and the PAF bombarded North Waziristan, Mullah Fazlullah who never wanted dialogue suddenly bowed down! Look who their Shura nominated to talk from their side? Imran Khan as one of the members of the five-members committee. All this seems like a joke. Now the media and politicos are going to get tired debating this step. All the Taliban are doing is buying time for survival!
I hope this farce ends soon enough and the Army starts operation, the chances of which don't seem to be in this year.

we should be optimistic.... let the govt talk to the talibans and let's see what do they demand. if they ask for shariah it's not a new or bad thing . sharia has been already practiced in several countries of the world and the most important example is of saudi arabia. other than that sharia is also the sole solution to all of our problems. so if we can gain the consent of talibans by experiencing shariah there is nothing bad in it. because we can gain the support of tallibans and we can use them to curb militancy in our country.

But on the other hand if the tallibans demand something impractical and if they show that they are playing on the foreign hands, they must be dealt with an iron hand and that is the only solution to this problem.

[QUOTE=amin aslam;691818]we should be optimistic.... let the govt talk to the talibans and let's see what do they demand. if they ask for shariah it's not a new or bad thing . sharia has been already practiced in several countries of the world and the most important example is of saudi arabia. other than that sharia is also the sole solution to all of our problems. so if we can gain the consent of talibans by experiencing shariah there is nothing bad in it. because we can gain the support of tallibans and we can use them to curb militancy in our country.

But on the other hand if the tallibans demand something impractical and if they show that they are playing on the foreign hands, they must be dealt with an iron hand and that is the only solution to this problem.[/QUOTE]

Sharia means??...their own school of thought? which certainly depicts the narrow picture of Islam??...:nono I am not against their religious beliefs but why to force others to opt the same creed?...once, Pakistan was the role model for the Muslims of the whole world. Now, every country considers Pakistan a terrorist state.

[QUOTE]sharia has been already practiced in several countries of the world and the most important example is of saudi arabia.[/QUOTE]

Which is why Saudi Arabia has one of the worse records of human rights violations.

[QUOTE] other than that sharia is also the sole solution to all of our problems. so if we can gain the consent of talibans by experiencing shariah there is nothing bad in it. because we can gain the support of tallibans and we can use them to curb militancy in our country.[/QUOTE]

Sharia is one of the vaguest terms prevalent among Muslims. Would you enlighten me, what exactly is this sharia? And how would it help us curb the militancy which, incidentally, lends its support in the name of Islam?

Quite ridiculous..
Dear brothers and sisters, please pray for the peace process, at least they are also Pakistanis. If tomorrow India, USA or Iran attacked us, these so called terrorists and Pakistan Armed Forces will be aside.

[QUOTE=Gypsified;691823]Which is why Saudi Arabia has one of the worse records of human rights violations.



Sharia is one of the vaguest terms prevalent among Muslims. Would you enlighten me, what exactly is this sharia? And how would it help us curb the militancy which, incidentally, lends its support in the name of Islam?[/QUOTE]

I second you. Saudi Arabia has become the worst example of human violation. There is "Dictatorship" not "Sharia".
Quran cleared this point," Deen mein Koi Jabr Nahi".:tata

[B][B]Hujjat tamam karne chahyeh. We wont lose anything if we give it a Last Chance. [/B][/B] :))