#11
|
||||
|
||||
Hey i really appreciate ur concern about what kind of state we are living in... Pakistan meaning La ilaha illAllah or pakistan a secular state where everyone has the right of being a free countryman..? I think we are not living in any of such kind of state... pakistan is going through the crucial stage of survival and we pakistanis will see that there is always a candle of light burning for giving a sign of hope to convoy committed to long but destined purpose...
|
The Following User Says Thank You to wabarq For This Useful Post: | ||
waqas izhar (Tuesday, July 22, 2014) |
#12
|
||||
|
||||
hmm declare religion as a private and personal affair of individual.The whole problem starts from the Name Islamic republic of Pakistan it should be Just pakistan. By keeping and declaring a state Islamic you Cant implement and put islam in hearts of people,we love islam its our matter why we enforce at whole? second thing Quaid did not mean secular state he meant liberal state he was not a secular he was a liberal and free of old irrational practices ,but he was a good muslim though intellectually ...i can quote his many quotations about islam and concept os islamic state
__________________
who say 'impossible' they dont know me....... |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
i) http://www.dawn.com/news/1120284/pakistan-ka-matlab-kya ii) http://www.dawn.com/news/1121773/pak...-matlab-kya-ii |
#14
|
||||
|
||||
i don't see the rationale in making a majority Muslim country into a secular country.
|
#15
|
|||
|
|||
It's because you do not want to.
|
#17
|
||||
|
||||
I think this concept that Religion is a personal matter etc etc can be perfect and practical for other religions which give the people just few customs and traditions to follow to remain their disciples...Islam is not just a religion, it's a complete code of life.
As Far as the government matters are concerned if we see the history of Islam we will observe that Holy Prophet PBUH and the Caliphs were quite flexible in making policies. Sometimes we see the customs and way of governments were not disturbed or were not completely abolished...Only those things were addressed which had clear negative impacts or were based on injustice. We may conclude that whatsoever the way of running the government may be, it should not be against Islam just...Means it should not be "Haram" but it is not necessary that it will be "Halal"; it can be "Mubah"... In case of Pakistan...I will say what so ever the ideology is...It should be followed wholly not partially otherwise we will remain in constant chaos and confusion...As Allah says in Quran " Islam men purey dakhil hojao" Partial Entry in religion is also proven fatal sometimes. I think personally that Jinnah used the word "Theocracy" depicting a school of thought that Islam is not a flexible religion, it has fixed rules etc etc...But if we see all the sects which accept "Fiqah" as a valid way of Jurisprudence, especially Hanafis , they regard Islam as quite flexible religion and actually it is possible that we can change the certain laws and customs but in the light of Quran and Sunnah...The term "Laboratory of Islam" can be put in practice only when "Fiqah" will be used otherwise it will be impossible because only via Fiqah we can derive a wide range of ways the masses can be governed..
__________________
If I am what I have and if I lose what I have, who then am I? |
The Following User Says Thank You to RAO RAMEEZ For This Useful Post: | ||
Muhammad Asim Abbasi (Wednesday, July 30, 2014) |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Sure, I will.
Consider an example of a pre-engineering students who are hafiz-e-Quran. They get some additional marks in their entry test score that help them to get admission in institute while Hindus and Christian students who have memorized Gita and Bible are not given any additional marks in entry test score. This a RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION. (This still happens in NED engineering university Karachi) If Pakistan become secular country, person from any group whether religious or non-religious will be treated with uniform rules and chances of like above mentioned discrimination will be reduced. Everyone say's same about their religion. Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
|
The Following User Says Thank You to informer59 For This Useful Post: | ||
waqas izhar (Monday, July 28, 2014) |
#19
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
|
#20
|
||||
|
||||
I will not go in a full length debate, but I will say one thing that the biggest difference between a Secular state and Islamic state is the "Rule of Desire"...Secular state will always remain under the influence of "Lust and Desires" of masses as well as the rulers...In Islamic state there is no place of one's own desires...People must have to obey the Book of Allah and Deeds of Holy Prophet PBUH whether it fulfils their desire or not.
For example recently ban on Marijuana is lifted in some parts of the world and people are struggling even in USA to lift the ban...Sexual relationship is allowed in some countries without getting bound in marriage institution if both man and woman are happy...Islam,on contrary, the religion of Nature, comprising the way of life given by the Creator, who knows about us even more then we do,not allow us to buy ignorance and devastation wit h our own hands.
__________________
If I am what I have and if I lose what I have, who then am I? |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RAO RAMEEZ For This Useful Post: | ||
Muhammad Asim Abbasi (Friday, August 01, 2014), sohailkt (Monday, July 28, 2014) |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
pak affairs notes | uzma khan youzaf zai | Pakistan Affairs | 11 | Sunday, October 13, 2019 02:31 PM |
National Education Policy 2009 | Raja Bahar | Pakistan Affairs | 0 | Sunday, June 10, 2012 06:32 PM |
History of Pak-US Relations | Shooting Star | Current Affairs | 0 | Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:50 AM |
Pakistan Relations and forign policy | khuhro | Current Affairs Notes | 0 | Sunday, August 22, 2010 09:10 PM |