A superhero is a character who is noted for feats of courage and nobility and who usually has a colorful name and costume and abilities beyond those of normal human beings.

First of all I would advise you that prior to putting up words on such Proper Place as cssforum, learn how to express your emotions in soft manure. Doling out Life, Taking it Back, giving either honor or disgust, Decide Right and Wrong have been the prime responsibility of owner of Universe (ALLAH). You had better stay as a small piece of his Universe, Do not try to be GOD, as you stated that Bughti was rightly killed, who has empowered you such powers to exercise and declare some ones death Right?

Even if, we talk about all Religions so none of them would favor your comments, but you might also be compelled to write so. I am not a Baloch, Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtoon but a Human Being answerable to Lord (ALLAH). I certainly but at all of sudden recall a Ghazal by Jagjeith as:-

“Tanha Kerdiya Muj Ko Meray Munfurhid Honey K Khiyal Nay”
Samjay tho Ammar Na Samjay tho Panni.

Regards.


Abdul Salam Khan.

The above post by me should be reviewed by Roshi.

A.S.Khan

Thinking together on Balochistan

Aileen Qaiser


THE death of veteran Baloch politician Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti in a military operation in Kohlu area of Balochistan is the latest example of our penchant for the use of force rather than dialogue to settle political differences.

The art of dialogue, which is a two-way street, has never been our forte. We have never been able to make effective positive communication a part of our culture. We do not possess the skill to dialogue, nor do we have the will to dialogue.

If we had, we would have been spared the military rules in this country, the assassination of Liaquat Ali Khan, the 1971 war, the execution of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, and now the killing of Nawab Bugti, with all the attendant consequences.

If Nawab Bugti has been killed for the sake of development in Balochistan and for the sake of prosperity of its people, the irony is that development and prosperity in shell-shock Balochistan is now more uncertain than ever before.

Development cannot be attained through the barrel of gun. It cannot be attained if the Baloch leaders and people feel that it is being imposed upon them by force.

Development, including reforming the age old “sardari” system in the province, can only take place if the Balochis — both leaders and the led — are given a sense of participation in the process, including decision-making in their province’s vast reservoirs of natural resources and a fair share in these resources.

Making the Balochis feel part and parcel of development in their own province can only be achieved through a dialogue which is based on mutual respect, a process which one western author on the art of dialogue calls “thinking together”.

We did try thinking together on Balochistan, initially at least. The revived parliamentary committee on Balochistan that began in 2004 appeared to have made headway in talks between Nawab Bugti and the government in 2005. But suddenly this deteriorated into sabotages of gas pipelines and power lines in Balochistan, bomb blasts in Quetta, and eventually, military action in the province leading to Nawab Bugti’s death.

Could the dialogue on the Balochistan issue have proceeded differently in the past two years rather than in the way that it has happened? Did the dialogue manage to transcend beyond the non-productive win or lose argument/debate phase towards the higher stage where different ideas and possibilities of resolutions could be heard and considered?

As outlined in many western books on the art of dialogue (Dialogue: the Art of Thinking Together by William Isaacs; From Debate to Dialogue: Using the Understanding Process to Transform Our Conversation by Deborah Flick, etc.), one major reason for the failure of dialogues is when the conversation takes the form of a polarised “for and against” argument or debate with two potential win/lose outcomes.

This inevitably happens when both sides regard the dialogue as an opportunity to have their say in a serial monologue fashion, heatedly and passionately expressing their opinions about whether they should have this or that. Very often in such cases, attempt is made to solve a problem without even having agreement of what the problem is!

This manner of dialoguing is usually brought on when one side has an attitude problem and when no attempt is first made to address issues of equity in the dialogue. Flaunting power and attitude, and making the other side succumb through force and/or blackmail, as has happened in the Balochistan issue, cannot bring about any lasting agreement.

As many authors on the art of dialogue have pointed out, a dialogue will not succeed if the goals do not include increasing understanding and respect, and addressing the root causes of the differences. Showing respect for others by listening carefully to what they say as well as showing openness to modify deeply held convictions are important themes of successful dialogues.

In this respect, creating an emotional linkage that allows one side to feel empathetic towards the other is crucial in any dialogue, according to Daniel Yankelovich in his book, The Magic of Dialogue: Transforming Conflict into Cooperation. This linkage is said to occur when each side senses that the other is willing to look at things from their perspective and that the other side shares common ideas or values that they can respect.

Once this linkage is established, Yankelovich believes, more information can then be shared, understood and incorporated in the group thinking. More empathy builds more sharing which in turn leads to more understanding and so forth. This process enables the creation of win-win alternatives and agreements rather than the divisive win-lose structures.

Just as such effective communication can enable businesses to make more reasoned decisions and deals, and thus earn more money, similarly governments can through mutual understanding and shared thinking on solutions create more lasting and peaceful resolutions to seemingly intractable problems and conflicts that threaten the integrity of the country.

Given the fact that contention and divisiveness is on the increase, whether it be the military vs the Balochis, the military vs the opposition political parties, the “moderates” vs the “fundamentalists”, the Sunnis vs the Shias, the Punjabis vs the Sindhis, the Punjabis vs the Balochis, etc., etc., we desperately need to come together and hone our skills in dialogue to reduce all these differences and take a different path — for the sake of Pakistan.

If we do not create emotional linkages with each other, think together, collaborate with one another and share this country as one people, our survival and progress as a nation will forever be at stake, no matter how strong a military we have or how big a nuclear power we are.

Reference: Features, DAWN. 04/09/2006.

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Hi
Come on man u r too emotional a case.dont see de negatively emotional face of picture , go for rational.Dont b a slave 2 Bugti. come in 2days world. leave ur traditions of slavery to sardars. By the way should I give any any value to ur comments. I have seen your recent posts. You are the 1 who had declared a well phrased statment that u r not going 2 visit cssforum and admitted that u r not worthy of this high order forum. So u r not a man of words too. I think I should request u to Review ur ownself please.
and for your kind information I am balochi.
Will you?

My above post was for Mr Abdul salam Khan. not for Impossible

Hey Roshni and Abdul Salam!!!!

Please cool down and discuss things in amiable maliue.

Thanks
Regards

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Before it is too late

PAKISTAN seems to have reached the edge of the precipice. The political rumpus that has erupted in the country in the aftermath of Nawab Akbar Bugti’s killing signals a national crisis of grave proportions. The situation is more serious than it appears. It is not just a clash between political centres of power that we witness today. Akbar Bugti’s killing has spawned a sense of deep alienation among all sections of the Baloch people. They feel that the events of the last few weeks have vindicated the sentiment they had nursed for decades about being discriminated against by the non-Baloch powers who control the province. They are therefore venting their anger against the Pakistan Army. This scenario is reminiscent of the happenings in East Pakistan in 1971 when the Bengalis rose in revolt as one man against those they perceived as their West Pakistani oppressors.

It appears that the Baloch today feel no differently. How else would one interpret the BNP’s decision to quit the Senate, the National Assembly, the provincial assembly and all the local bodies? BNP leader Sardar Mengal’s statement describing this as a fight between the army and the Baloch people also confirms the deep alienation that has set in. It is indeed distressing that this impression should have been created among the Baloch nationalists. But rather than adopting an ostrich-like approach towards this Balochi perception and denying it or condemning it as traitorous, it is important that measures be taken to reassure the Baloch that they are regarded as an integral part of the population of Pakistan. At least quite a preponderant section of civil society in the country has extended its moral and political support to the Baloch struggle for their political and economic rights. It is a positive development that many political parties and leaders of opinion in the other provinces have condemned the Establishment’s approach to Akbar Bugti and the insurgency he led. In this context, the Baloch should feel that they are not alone and isolated. The whole country shares with them their grief and resentment at the government’s military operation that led to the mysterious death of Nawab Akbar Bugti. The latest to lend weight to the chorus of opinion condemning the official policy on Balochistan are some retired army generals who have termed the operation ill-conceived and mishandled.

The time has come to initiate a process of healing wounds. But obviously such a move can only be undertaken after the political-cum-judicial aspects have been taken care of. The ARD and the MMA have demanded that a judicial commission be set up to probe Bugti’s killing. The former ISI chief, General Hameed Gul, has called on the Chief Justice of Pakistan to take suo motu notice of the Kohlu episode. The immediate need is to call a halt to the military operation which is still going on. A dialogue has to be started between various sections of the Baloch population and Islamabad but this will have to be conducted by a civilian leadership. The problem with the army assuming the leading role in any such process is that, given its lack of credibility, it will alienate the Baloch further and divide the country. Hence the civilian government will have to come forward to do this job. Exchanging charges and counter-charges at this point in time will not help matters. But sympathy and acknowledging one’s mistake will.


Reference: Editorial, DAWN. 05/09/2006

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Dear members,

You all are requested to maintain the element of peace during any discussion.And kindly be rational in discussions instead of getting personal.

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WELL,THIS TIME ARMY OPERATION SENT BUGTI TO THE REALM WHENCE NONE HAS EVER RETURNED.THE EIGHTY YEARS OLD LEGEND,WITH SOME RELATIVES AND GUARDS,VALIANTLY PREFERED DEATH THAN TO COMPROMISE ON THE PRINCIPLES,TRIBAL TADITIONS AND PROVINCIAL AND NATIONAL INTERESTS.IF HE WAS A REBEL,TERRORIST AND LAW BREAKER,WHY WAS HE ACCEPTED AS A MINISTER,GOVERNOR OF A PROVINCE AND CHIEF MINISTER?IF WE BLINDLY AGREE WITH THE FALSE CLAIMS MADE BY THE ARMY THAT HE WAS STATE-ENEMY HOW MANY OTHER SUCH ENEMIES OF THE STATE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED,PUNISHED AND PUT TO DEATH?BUGTI'S PERSONALITY WAS MORE A POLITICAL THAN A TRIBAL CHIEF.HIS DEATH HAS LEFT MANY QUESTION IN THE MIND OF NATION AND HAS COMPELLED IT TO SEARCH FOR THE FOOT MARKS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OVER AFTER HIS BODY HAS BEEN ENGRAVED WITHOUT ANY AUTHENTICITY AND PRESENCE OF HIS KITH AND KINS.IT WAS MUCH BETTER IN NATIONAL INTERESTS THAT HIS DEATH BODY WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDED OVER TO HIS FAMILY MEMBERS.BUT WHY GOVERNMENT DIDNT DO SO?THIS HAS INFURIATED WHOLE THE NATION,SPECIALLY BALOUCH PEOPLE IN ALL.STRIKES IN SINDH AND NWFP HAS GIVEN BIRTH TO SEVERAL PROBLEMS WHERE COMMON PEOPLE SUFFER;WHILE AMONGST POLITICAL FIGURES DEPOSED PM NAWAZ,HIMSELF KICKED OUT OF OFFICE BY THE GENERALS,HAS FOR THE FIRST TIME ASKED HIS PARTY TO STAGE PROTESTS IN PUJAB WHICH ARE BEING OBSERVED IN OTHER PROVINCES SO AS TO PROTECT PUNJAB'S INTERESTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PERIL AFTER DEATH OF AKBAR KHAN BUGTI.LETS SEE WHAT THE OUTCOMES APPEAR IN FUTURE.

Well .. Mr why are u so insitent to treat a traitor , a rebel as a hero. If i accept it , Pakistani nation will have to accept all decoits, all miscreant of the history of mankind as thier hero. Come out of your ediotic comprehensions of legendry. and what do u want to reffer to by mentioning his age. 80 years old murderer cant be punished? Let me tell u , his end is exactly what we know as MAKAFAT-E-AMAL. A person who would pretend to be absolute master of his area and his clan could not find 20 people in his funeral. I dont know why people dont learn any thing from such displays of Allah Almighty. Do you really know that Bugti would not even bow to The Creator, The Lord. If u dont know, u can ask from those who have knowledge of his life style. Please dont call him a legend. It really hurts the ratinal feelings of the members of this forum. Moreover He was kept in made governer By Mr Bhutto not by army. Today u blame Army. Whom would u blame for such operations in 1970s. It was all your dear political leaders. Now only those are calling it a murder who are not in chair. had they been in power they would have been the ones to support this act of killing Bugti.
Do you really mean that if a good step has not been taken by any one in the past that of punishing some politician, it should never be taken in the future too.
I shall also request you to apprise me of the principles which Bugti was a man of. Tomorrow somebody like you would get up and say that government shoud provide u with a area of land and requisite resources to manage that, and that people living in such area of land shall be your slaves and that you would be allowed to keep an army of your own whose expenses will be born by the state and that Law of such area of land would be what u say. thereon Government asks you to subbmit. You insist that you are fighting for your principles and if offended by the state you will surrender not but get killed. Pakistani Nation posses atleast this much of senses and awarness that it is not going to grant you the status of a Hero. Waisey try this option for your ownself and then i would own you as a hero and your Hero too.
Look.... It is neither Army nor musharraf nor any other individual organ of the state. It is infact the course of Action By Allah almighty for those who cross thier limits in disturbing peace on the earth.
I shall fell happy if you reconcile your thoughts.
Bye