Apply through proper channel?
 

AsSalam o Alaikum people!
I think I'm not alone who is confused regarding the subject title.
Almost in every government vacancy announcing advertisement, it is mentioned out there that, government employees should apply through proper channel.
But the question is that, what is this Apply through proper channel mystry??
Through thorogh research on the internet, I've come to know that:
1. Government employees should apply through proper channel (i.e. their parent department), an application is to be addressed to their departmental heads for onward transmission to the department where you are applying to.
2.If your application is forwarded, that mean you have applied properly and upon selection in the new department your parent department shall not hesitate to relive you.
3. Your service will be protected, that mean if you served your parent department for two years you will be treated as senior employee as compared to other fresh employees selected along with you.
4. You can leave your parent department on lien for one year or as prescribed, that mean you can join your parent department within one year or as prescribed if you are not interested in the new job.
5. Your pay will be protected, i.e. you will be entitled to all the increments which you got earlier.
I have found these things and still I want to know something more.

Q1. Can an employee on probation apply through proper channel?
Q2. Is it mandatory for an government employee to apply through proper channel or one can apply directly?

If anyone knows something regarding that, please share here?

Moderators are requested that please do not delete this thread, if this is irrelevant section, kindly move it to the right one rather deleting.

Waiting for your kind reply/suggestion..
Thank you!

If anyone knows kindly guide me please?

Anybody there?

[QUOTE=iFarazAhmed;873029]Anybody there?[/QUOTE]
Bhai probation period mein to 2 years service nahi ho sakti.
Matlab k apply through proper channel sirf woh he kar sakta hai jis nay 2 years continous service ki ho in any govt department.
aur yeh ap pe depend karta hai k ap through proper channel karna chahty ho k as fresh. Baad ouqaatb ap ka parent department noc nahi dayta to ap through proper nahi kar saktay. Is soorat mein ap ko decide karna hota hai k ap ki age within maximum limit hai ?if yes then you can apply or you should apply as a fresh candidate.
Hope you understand.

maine bhi proper channel aply nh kiya tha ab mujhy new offer order milnay wala hy. to kia main apni puchli job pe lien lesakta hu? remember i didnt applied through proper chanel.

can any one tell what is the difference in lien and without pay leave?

[QUOTE=abdul rehman3;906872]Bhai probation period mein to 2 years service nahi ho sakti.
Matlab k apply through proper channel sirf woh he kar sakta hai jis nay 2 years continous service ki ho in any govt department.
aur yeh ap pe depend karta hai k ap through proper channel karna chahty ho k as fresh. Baad ouqaatb ap ka parent department noc nahi dayta to ap through proper nahi kar saktay. Is soorat mein ap ko decide karna hota hai k ap ki age within maximum limit hai ?if yes then you can apply or you should apply as a fresh candidate.
Hope you understand.[/QUOTE]
Kindly make some corrections as I am serving in government sector so I can give authentic information.... 1- For applying through proper channel or getting NOC , there is no restriction on employees who are on probation period. 2- A person on probation period can get NOC or may apply through proper channel ( NOC or Apply through proper channel are same but method is different) but a person who is on probation period is not eligible for lien. 3- For getting lien, one must have completed his or her probation period and lien may extend to maximum for two years. 4- Mostly probation period for non gazetted post is one year and for gazetted its two year which may extend for further one year (maximum extension) in both categories. 5- If you have not applied through proper channel or did not get NOC for apply then at the time of interview you may request for NOC for appearing in interview and subsequent appointment but there is rare chance to have a NOC at this stage. 6- If you have been appointed without availing NOC or applying through proper channel then you will have to resign from your current job and after that you may join other department. 7- If a person joins other government department without resigning current government department or make resign after some days and gets salary from both departments then that acts fall within the definition of crime/misconduct which leads to penalty. Hope my reply will clear all your queries.....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;907638]Kindly make some corrections as I am serving in government sector so I can give authentic information.... 1- For applying through proper channel or getting NOC , there is no restriction on employees who are on probation period. 2- A person on probation period can get NOC or may apply through proper channel ( NOC or Apply through proper channel are same but method is different) but a person who is on probation period is not eligible for lien. 3- For getting lien, one must have completed his or her probation period and lien may extend to maximum for two years. 4- Mostly probation period for non gazetted post is one year and for gazetted its two year which may extend for further one year (maximum extension) in both categories. 5- If you have not applied through proper channel or did not get NOC for apply then at the time of interview you may request for NOC for appearing in interview and subsequent appointment but there is rare chance to have a NOC at this stage. 6- If you have been appointed without availing NOC or applying through proper channel then you will have to resign from your current job and after that you may join other department. 7- If a person joins other government department without resigning current government department or make resign after some days and gets salary from both departments then that acts fall within the definition of crime/misconduct which leads to penalty. Hope my reply will clear all your queries.....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
One more thing, two year continuous service is required for getting age relaxation not for applying through proper channel or getting NOC...!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

it means that if some one working in any Govt organization on probation/contract he can apply any other govt organization without getting NOC from his employer or without any proper channel and after getting any offer from new Govt department , he can resign from his previous dept as per his contract and join new dept.

correct me if i am wrong..

Yes after resigning he may join

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

[QUOTE=sohailsqiaq;908287]it means that if some one working in any Govt organization on probation/contract he can apply any other govt organization without getting NOC from his employer or without any proper channel and after getting any offer from new Govt department , he can resign from his previous dept as per his contract and join new dept.
correct me if i am wrong..[/QUOTE]
No, you need NOC, even if you are working on contract on govt. organization.

[QUOTE=Z Ali S;908317]No, you need NOC, even if you are working on contract on govt. organization.[/QUOTE]


as per my knowledge ...

i think NOC is required if any one wants to transfer his services i.e his services period continues , last pay, any annual increment etc.
But if some one does not wants to transfer his service and start to work as fresh employee,then he does not need NOC.

one more thing is :
if an employee change his job like GOVT--->Pvt----->GOVT. then what will be the case ?

[QUOTE=sohailsqiaq;908343]as per my knowledge ...
i think NOC is required if any one wants to transfer his services i.e his services period continues , last pay, any annual increment etc.
But if some one does not wants to transfer his service and start to work as fresh employee,then he does not need NOC.
one more thing is :
if an employee change his job like GOVT--->Pvt----->GOVT. then what will be the case ?[/QUOTE]
if you mentioned that you are govt. employee, then NOC is mandatory(even if you don't want service transfer) and after selection your service will transfer. If you don't mentioned about govt. job then no NOC is required and service will not transfer.
Govt to private = NOC required.
private to govt. = No NOC required.

Bhai govt to pvt k liay konsa noc chahiay hota ha???? Simply resign and join.... Ye noc or apply through proper walay chakar govt sector k liay ha....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

Only for govt to govt or autonomous (I.e paec, nha, drap etc)

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;908372]Bhai govt to pvt k liay konsa noc chahiay hota ha???? Simply resign and join.... Ye noc or apply through proper walay chakar govt sector k liay ha....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
If you are serving in govt job and want to switch job(to other govt job or private job), you will need a NOC. Agar aap NOC liyay bagair private job k liyay apply krte hn aur select ho jate hn, to possible hai k current(govt.) department aap ko discharge/release na kre ya kuch fine kre. NOC ensure krta hai k selection k bad aap ko govt. job chornay may koi masla na ho.

[QUOTE=Z Ali S;908389]If you are serving in govt job and want to switch job(to other govt job or private job), you will need a NOC. Agar aap NOC liyay bagair private job k liyay apply krte hn aur select ho jate hn, to possible hai k current(govt.) department aap ko discharge/release na kre ya kuch fine kre. NOC ensure krta hai k selection k bad aap ko govt. job chornay may koi masla na ho.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha....Bro in which govt Dept are u serving???

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;908390]Hahaha....Bro in which govt Dept are u serving???

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
i am not telling about my department, its a general rule to get NOC unless you resign first and then apply for other job.

who would guarantee the transparency ?

[QUOTE=Z Ali S;908391]i am not telling about my department, its a general rule to get NOC unless you resign first and then apply for other job.[/QUOTE]
Bhai civil service rule me ager koi new amendments hoi ho to pata nai wrna mene apne govt sector ki service me aisa koi rule nai dheka.... It misguides to others, so.....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;908394]Bhai civil service rule me ager koi new amendments hoi ho to pata nai wrna mene apne govt sector ki service me aisa koi rule nai dheka.... It misguides to others, so.....!!!
Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
Bhai may bs yeh kh raha hn k NOC ly lene se aap ko future may koi masla nai hota.
Lets suppose aap ek govt job kr rhe hn(with 2 year contract) aur ek private company ka appointment letter b aap ko mil jata hai, to app us govt job ko forun chor k nai ja saktay. Aap ko kuch arsa pehlay department ko notice dena parta hai ya salary as fine submit karani parti hai(duration and fine vary from department to department). So bad may zaleel hone se behtar hai k pehlay he NOC ly lain.
And secondly people rarely leave govt jobs for private ones :)

[QUOTE=Z Ali S;908403]Bhai may bs yeh kh raha hn k NOC ly lene se aap ko future may koi masla nai hota.
Lets suppose aap ek govt job kr rhe hn(with 2 year contract) aur ek private company ka appointment letter b aap ko mil jata hai, to app us govt job ko forun chor k nai ja saktay. Aap ko kuch arsa pehlay department ko notice dena parta hai ya salary as fine submit karani parti hai(duration and fine vary from department to department). So bad may zaleel hone se behtar hai k pehlay he NOC ly lain.
And secondly people rarely leave govt jobs for private ones :)[/QUOTE]

is it correct?
if some one give notice period in his resignation as per his contract and after this period he gets reveling order from govt dept than can he join any pvt or other govt. dept ?
every person give resignation from previous dept after getting a new offer.

[QUOTE=Z Ali S;908403]Bhai may bs yeh kh raha hn k NOC ly lene se aap ko future may koi masla nai hota.
Lets suppose aap ek govt job kr rhe hn(with 2 year contract) aur ek private company ka appointment letter b aap ko mil jata hai, to app us govt job ko forun chor k nai ja saktay. Aap ko kuch arsa pehlay department ko notice dena parta hai ya salary as fine submit karani parti hai(duration and fine vary from department to department). So bad may zaleel hone se behtar hai k pehlay he NOC ly lain.
And secondly people rarely leave govt jobs for private ones :)[/QUOTE]
Bhai meray ap contract per ho ya regular apko pvt sector k liay kon noc dega???? Jb ap govt sector se he baher nikal rahay ho to phr noc kis bat ka....just resign n join.... Noc to isliay lia jata ha k Dept apko relieve krne ka bound hoga or ap apki service transfer ho jati ha.... Simple.... Jb ap govt sector join kro k to phr SB smajh a Jaye ge

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

Don't make it complicated.... In case of resignation you have to give one month prior notice....else they Will deduct one month salary...simple...relieving and resignation both are different...!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;908408]Don't make it complicated.... [B][SIZE="2"]In case of resignation you have to give one month prior notice[/SIZE][/B]....else they Will deduct one month salary...simple...relieving and resignation both are different...!!!
Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
yes exactly, this is what i was trying to say with little addition that if you have NOC then no prior notice or pay deduction is required.
NOC simply means that your department has no issue if you join other job(govt/private).

plz reply seniors
 

i have over 2 years of experience in public sectr organization (police deptt) now i am over 30 years can i have age relaxation in NBp and Secp Jobs where age limit mentioned is 30 years.
i have heard that if one has two years continous govt job he has 10 years relaxation.
plz comment how can i get written proof of it . if nts or NBP and SECP requires any.

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;908408]Don't make it complicated.... In case of resignation you have to give one month prior notice....else they Will deduct one month salary...simple...relieving and resignation both are different...!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]

Agr contract pe job ho aur NOC le k kci aur dpt me chaly jain and aftr 3-4 mnths old dpt me wapis ain to aa skty hn??mtlb lien mil skta cntrct pe???

[QUOTE=kukoo;1015776]Agr contract pe job ho aur NOC le k kci aur dpt me chaly jain and aftr 3-4 mnths old dpt me wapis ain to aa skty hn??mtlb lien mil skta cntrct pe???[/QUOTE]
It's common scenario, contractual jobs are only to get one's services​ for meager benefits temporarily.
Unlike permanent job, where one may be relieved on lien.

Noc / dpc
 

Is there any provision in rule / policy to the effect that NOC is not required for applying posts within same department???? please. Copy / reference of rule is also required, please.

I applied for two posts through proper channel and joined the first one after getting relieving certificate from my parent Department. Subsequently, I was again selected for 2nd posts with higher pay-scale whose result was announced later-on. Now, what should I do to join the second post as I got NOC at the time of applying from previous Dept.? Should I simply join the next post or anything else?

How to get lein?
I had apply through proper channel on a post and its time to resign
From old job and guide me how to get lein.
For example lein letter type sample.
How to write lein letter its format etc. Shall be thankful

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;907638]Kindly make some corrections as I am serving in government sector so I can give authentic information.... 1- For applying through proper channel or getting NOC , there is no restriction on employees who are on probation period. 2- A person on probation period can get NOC or may apply through proper channel ( NOC or Apply through proper channel are same but method is different) but a person who is on probation period is not eligible for lien. 3- For getting lien, one must have completed his or her probation period and lien may extend to maximum for two years. 4- Mostly probation period for non gazetted post is one year and for gazetted its two year which may extend for further one year (maximum extension) in both categories. 5- If you have not applied through proper channel or did not get NOC for apply then at the time of interview you may request for NOC for appearing in interview and subsequent appointment but there is rare chance to have a NOC at this stage. 6- If you have been appointed without availing NOC or applying through proper channel then you will have to resign from your current job and after that you may join other department. 7- If a person joins other government department without resigning current government department or make resign after some days and gets salary from both departments then that acts fall within the definition of crime/misconduct which leads to penalty. Hope my reply will clear all your queries.....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk


One more thing, two year continuous service is required for getting age relaxation not for applying through proper channel or getting NOC...!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
Can u guide me about lein letter format.
Its sample.
How to write and what to wright?

Can anyone please help me. i am being recently selected as LDC in housing and works department. i was working as a LDC in Navy. because of the shortage of time i didn't followed the process of resignation. and joined my new department. now some memorandum and discipline letters are being issued to me from my previous department, mentioning about discipline action "Dismiss/Removal from Service". kindly guide me what should i do? Thank u

[QUOTE=Goal Seeker;907638]Kindly make some corrections as I am serving in government sector so I can give authentic information.... 1- For applying through proper channel or getting NOC , there is no restriction on employees who are on probation period. 2- A person on probation period can get NOC or may apply through proper channel ( NOC or Apply through proper channel are same but method is different) but a person who is on probation period is not eligible for lien. 3- For getting lien, one must have completed his or her probation period and lien may extend to maximum for two years. 4- Mostly probation period for non gazetted post is one year and for gazetted its two year which may extend for further one year (maximum extension) in both categories. 5- If you have not applied through proper channel or did not get NOC for apply then at the time of interview you may request for NOC for appearing in interview and subsequent appointment but there is rare chance to have a NOC at this stage. 6- If you have been appointed without availing NOC or applying through proper channel then you will have to resign from your current job and after that you may join other department. 7- If a person joins other government department without resigning current government department or make resign after some days and gets salary from both departments then that acts fall within the definition of crime/misconduct which leads to penalty. Hope my reply will clear all your queries.....!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk


One more thing, two year continuous service is required for getting age relaxation not for applying through proper channel or getting NOC...!!!

Sent from my e40 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]
I need guidance please,

I got appointed in SUPARCO as Jr Asst-II (SPS-03) regular basis on Sept 2011,
completed probation period for an year, and after serving four and half year, I joined Sindh High Court as Sub Office Associate (BPS-07 then upgraded to BPS-09).
The period of probation in High Court is 02 Years,
I served almost 20 months and just 04 months left in completion of probation, but I have been relieved to join next assignment as I applied through proper channel for the said post i.e. Junior Auditor (BPS-11) in the Office of the Accountant General Sindh, Karachi.
I want to ask a question, I was not awarded lien as probation period was not completed which was 02 years,
but my previous whole service of SUPARCO comprised of 04 and half year was counted in the service of SINDH HIGH COURT, the time when I was relieved, my service period was 06 and half year (Sept 2011 to Jan 2018).
that is why requesting you to inform me can i not be awarded lien on the basis of previous 06 and half years of service?

Aoa brother did u find answer to your query?

Any reference in this regard Sir?? i mean to say are there any rules or any act where it is mentioned that the contract employee has also to apply through proper channel like regular one?

pls check

Could I apply without NOC
 

Kindly tell me that I am the employee of Government Pakistan since 2 years but now I want to apply for the post of BPS-17 in Sindh Government but I don't want to apply through proper channel it is possible to apply without NOC because no any kind of BOND signed in present Department, and does no objection may take provisional department if i don't apply through proper channel Now I am under the 28 Age.

DPC issue
 

AoA
I was working as JC and I applied for deputy accountant and assistant in another department through proper channel, and got both NOCs.
Later result of asst came and i joined it.
Now after 6 months, result of Deputy accountant has come and i want to join that, but i dont have NoC from my current department.
What should I do????
I don't want to resign as my service wouldn't be counted.
I need relieving.
Any way out please ⁉️

So much complicated case. Brother

As per rules Lien is awarded to CONFIRMED Civil Servant only. However competent authority may accommodate you.

through proper channel
 

kya federal government ka employee ksi dusray department mein on same scale ke lie NOC le skta hai? apply through proper channel ni kia tha or abhi probation period chal ra hai us ke current department me.
need serious suggestion and any rule
wo apnay current department se hiring bhi le ra hai.