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Salam dear members,

I have a small problem which i would like to discuss with you guys and would also be needing your recommendations.

I basically am confused about which job offer should i select. I have right now two opportunities. The first is NESCOM fellowship, which will lead to an SPS-08 job after completion of studies. My studies would be free and i would be getting a stipend from the government.

The second offer is for a BS 17 Engineer post in Ministry of Science and Technology.

Now, thing is, I know the NESCOM fellowship is more attractive because of the perks and privileges involved, plus promotion after 2 years. But, i have to sign a bond for almost 6 years with them and during that time i cant get NOCs, if i want to apply for CSS or any place else.

The Ministry job does not have these constraint. But, the perks and privileges are not at that level as those of the NESCOM job.

So, dear members, would you all be kind enough to suggest me which post should i opt for? Considering the fact that i want to apply for CSS the next year as well. Your kind words will be appreciated.

Thanks
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Go for the Ministry!

Just to shed a little light on the situation for reference and information!

A civilian officer in any of the strategic organizations (NESCOM and others) is not a GAZETTED Officer. Their service rules are non-statutory as they have not been published in the Official Gazette of Pakistan. You cannot challenge the authority on whatever decision they may make. This has also been clarified via an Ordinance in March 2016 and later on, an Act passed in July 2016 by Parliament. Being non-statutory means 'Mubara E Qanoon' or you can search via google about its legal effects.

Your life will be restricted. No smart phones in the office premises, you have to keep a simple phone. No internet in the office except a designated area where limited number of computers are available, being in SPS-8, you'll earn about 65k (take home salary) but according to my point of view, its not worth it if you have 2 choices.

You will have to face periodic security clearances depending on your security category, you'll have to limit your social life, you will have NO authority, absolutely no authority.

Which facilities, perks and privileges are you talking about? Medical? Pension? Transport?

Being in NESCOM, you'll neither be a Civil Servant nor a Public Servant! NESCOM has no housing scheme (YET, one is going on but is in far flung area). Being an autonomous body, it has very low quota in allotment of plots scheme via Federal Government Employees Housing Foundation (FGEHF).

Now lets analyse the Ministry, a Gazetted Officer with authority. A Civil servant drawing pay from AGPR. House Building Advance (Loan) or Motor Car Advance (Loan) can be acquired after a few years (in NESCOM, the people with more age enjoy this facility, so you have to be at age 55+ to get somewhere in 1st ten, they only grant 5 to 10 people in one financial year). In ministry, Civil Servants Act will apply which is a very well and brief document providing clear cut instructions which you can also take to the court if aggrieved with.

Forget NOC's Sir, even if the bond period crosses, you'll not be easily granted NOC to apply any where, they even curtail staff members' rights in this regard.

FPSC does not grant the age relaxation to CSS aspirants from AUTONOMOUS BODIES and NESCOM is an Autonomous body, you can have the age relaxation in Ministry so you can have more time to prepare

Another thing, you have to be married to have Hiring facility in NESCOM, you cannot have medical treatment for your parents before completing 3 years of service. Parents cannot have a prolong treatment just a casual checkup or diagnosis. But in Ministry, you can hire a house if you are living with your parents (No restriction of marriage), you can have medical facility for your parents.

The above analysis is my own and my own only. I wrote what I see from my perspective.

The decision, I leave to you and your fine sense of judgement.

If you got any question, my email address is at my profile.

Best of Luck Sir!
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Thank you so much sir. I dont think so anyone could had explained it better. I was also having second thoughts about the NESCOM opportunity. You clearly explained all the benefits and problem of NESCOM.

I guess i have almost made up my mind now regarding which side should i go for. However, if anybody else wants to shed light in this discussion, he is requested to do so. If anyone can give more arguments, he is welcome to do so.

Once again thanks bro. Ill contact you
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Dear please tell me which dept of MosT you have been offered from ?
There are many like me who are waiting for nie and necop result , it would be very helpful if you mention the dept.


And I'll second mr dead's opinion
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Salam dear members,

I have a small problem which i would like to discuss with you guys and would also be needing your recommendations.

I basically am confused about which job offer should i select. I have right now two opportunities. The first is NESCOM fellowship, which will lead to an SPS-08 job after completion of studies. My studies would be free and i would be getting a stipend from the government.

The second offer is for a BS 17 Engineer post in Ministry of Science and Technology.

Now, thing is, I know the NESCOM fellowship is more attractive because of the perks and privileges involved, plus promotion after 2 years. But, i have to sign a bond for almost 6 years with them and during that time i cant get NOCs, if i want to apply for CSS or any place else.

The Ministry job does not have these constraint. But, the perks and privileges are not at that level as those of the NESCOM job.

So, dear members, would you all be kind enough to suggest me which post should i opt for? Considering the fact that i want to apply for CSS the next year as well. Your kind words will be appreciated.

Thanks
Are you talking about PIEAS fellowship?
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No bro.... Not PIEAS..... This is NESCOM Fellowship through Institute of space technology bro. Actually my university IST has some sort of MoU with the SPD, since IST itself is an SPD affiliated institute. Every year IST in partnership with NESCOM, gives fellowships to a fix number of high achieving students. So, i will in sha ALLAH get an offer through that.....
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Dear please tell me which dept of MosT you have been offered from ?
There are many like me who are waiting for nie and necop result , it would be very helpful if you mention the dept.


And I'll second mr dead's opinion
I am talking about PCSIR. I applied for Junior Engineer BS 17. I Alhamdolillah topped the test and interview went very well. So, i guess i have very bright chances of getting selected. However, as of yet, no joining letters have been dispatched to any one. It will take 1 month or almost 2 months for the process to get completed.
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No bro.... Not PIEAS..... This is NESCOM Fellowship through Institute of space technology bro. Actually my university IST has some sort of MoU with the SPD, since IST itself is an SPD affiliated institute. Every year IST in partnership with NESCOM, gives fellowships to a fix number of high achieving students. So, i will in sha ALLAH get an offer through that.....
Dear Sir,

I know i am reading this too late but if you are reading my reply do tell me how much gpa should one have to maintain in order to get the fellowship from these organisations currently i am studying in IST.

Warm Regards.
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