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I Khan Monday, May 13, 2019 12:13 PM

Safe and potentially par score in PMS-2018's Written Exam?
 
Hi fellow PMS Aspirants ! In terms of how tough or easy PMS 2018's written papers were, what, according to you, would be a safe and potentially par score in the written exam this time around?

Bakr Monday, May 13, 2019 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=I Khan;1091035]Hi fellow PMS Aspirants ! In terms of how tough or easy PMS 2018's written papers were, what, according to you, would be a safe and potentially par score in the written exam this time around?[/QUOTE]

I suppose 680+ in the written keeping in view previous outcome of the result. In addition, if you can help me to understand more about PMS. Do they have similar groups like CSS exam? I mean they never asked us to prioritize choices in the form. I don't really understand PMS. I mean as per hearsay PMS is just limited to one's province, but is not the only difference I assume. What are other differences?

I really want some eloquent description of PMS because half knowledge is consuming me :D

P.S Not that I'm very hopeful to clear the exam. But just incase you know :p

yasirisrar Monday, May 13, 2019 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=Bakr;1091039]I suppose 680+ in the written keeping in view previous outcome of the result. In addition, if you can help me to understand more about PMS. Do they have similar groups like CSS exam? I mean they never asked us to prioritize choices in the form. I don't really understand PMS. I mean as per hearsay PMS is just limited to one's province, but is not the only difference I assume. What are other differences?

I really want some eloquent description of PMS because half knowledge is consuming me :D

P.S Not that I'm very hopeful to clear the exam. But just incase you know :p[/QUOTE]


Well PMS is for provincial level hence these posts are only for the establishment department. Once an aspirant clears the exam and become a pms officer he/she will be posted as either AC or Section officer in the various departments of kp government

yasirisrar Monday, May 13, 2019 02:59 PM

[QUOTE=I Khan;1091035]Hi fellow PMS Aspirants ! In terms of how tough or easy PMS 2018's written papers were, what, according to you, would be a safe and potentially par score in the written exam this time around?[/QUOTE]

A score of 650+ will be considered safe as per my view

Bakr Monday, May 13, 2019 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=yasirisrar;1091044]A score of 650+ will be considered safe as per my view[/QUOTE]

Well since there are more seats this time, therefore your view sounds more reasonable. I think last time 680+ lied in the safe zone.

I Khan Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:23 AM

[QUOTE=yasirisrar;1091044]A score of 650+ will be considered safe as per my view[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, if one is to harbour any hope of making it to the final list, he/she should score in excess of 700 at the very least.

I Khan Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=yasirisrar;1091044]A score of 650+ will be considered safe as per my view[/QUOTE]

Generally speaking, if one is to harbour any hope of making it to the final list, he/she should score in excess of 700 at the very least. However, it does not imply that all is lost for those falling short of the 700 mark provided they score somewhere around 670-680 and do exceedingly well in the interview.

Pragmatic Mind Tuesday, May 14, 2019 02:31 PM

Salam to All: Can any one give the details of the starting salary after selection in PMS ?

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Pragmatic Mind;1091061]Salam to All: Can any one give the details of the starting salary after selection in PMS ?[/QUOTE]

basic pay of 30,370 and some allowances

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=I Khan;1091055]Generally speaking, if one is to harbour any hope of making it to the final list, he/she should score in excess of 700 at the very least. However, it does not imply that all is lost for those falling short of the 700 mark provided they score somewhere around 670-680 and do exceedingly well in the interview.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. There are countless examples from CSS and Last PMS where candidates scored extremely well in viva voice despite having not so shiny scores in written part. any ways lets see where the wind blows

Pragmatic Mind Tuesday, May 14, 2019 02:48 PM

Thanks Yasir

Bakr Tuesday, May 14, 2019 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=yasirisrar;1091062]basic pay of 30,370 and some allowances[/QUOTE]

This is on training or after training? I had heard some allowances like executive type were approved recently which made an addition of 45k to the salary of BS -17 officer. How true is that?

Pragmatic Mind Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=I Khan;1091055]Generally speaking, if one is to harbour any hope of making it to the final list, he/she should score in excess of 700 at the very least. However, it does not imply that all is lost for those falling short of the 700 mark provided they score somewhere around 670-680 and do exceedingly well in the interview.[/QUOTE]

Those who had attempted 2016 PMS papers would appreciate that the papers toughness level was very low. Last year PMS papers were quite tough and had analytical questions. I personally believe that getting 700 would not be a walk in the park. But getting 700 would certainly be a ticket for PMS selection.

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:03 PM

[QUOTE=Bakr;1091067]This is on training or after training? I had heard some allowances like executive type were approved recently which made an addition of 45k to the salary of BS -17 officer. How true is that?[/QUOTE]

The executive allowance was approved but is it been given to officers in Kpk, i have to ask that from my sister. As far as css officer are concerned they were given a salary of 35k during their stay at CSA and the pay was increased to 38k during STP (Source: Sister is currently AC UT chakwal)

Pragmatic Mind Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=Bakr;1091067]This is on training or after training? I had heard some allowances like executive type were approved recently which made an addition of 45k to the salary of BS -17 officer. How true is that?[/QUOTE]

I think 38000 allowance was approved for BPS 17 last year but its not clear if it would also be allowed during training or not ?

Can any one shed light on the final take home pay during training ?

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=Pragmatic Mind;1091069]Those who had attempted 2016 PMS papers would appreciate that the papers toughness level was very low. Last year PMS papers were quite tough and had analytical questions. I personally believe that getting 700 would not be a walk in the park. But getting 700 would certainly be a ticket for PMS selection.[/QUOTE]

True that. However, there was a fuss that 2 papers were targeted intentionally by the commission due to which many candidates could not score

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=Pragmatic Mind;1091072]I think 38000 allowance was approved for BPS 17 last year but its not clear if it would also be allowed during training or not ?

Can any one shed light on the final take home pay during training ?[/QUOTE]

I guess batoor khan from pms batch 2016 can answer this. He is quite active on FB pagae PMS KPK

Pragmatic Mind Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=yasirisrar;1091073]True that. However, there was a fuss that 2 papers were targeted intentionally by the commission due to which many candidates could not score[/QUOTE]

This argument of your's holds water as I my-self was targeted in Islamic History & Culture. I was given 33 in Paper I and 30 in Paper II which ended up my total on 686. Paper II played decisive role by becoming me fail.

This time I found all the papers having different tone and style. I would be more than happy if i got 690 this time because keeping in view the high number of seats, it would be suffice.

Bakr Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=yasirisrar;1091073]True that. However, there was a fuss that 2 papers were targeted intentionally by the commission due to which many candidates could not score[/QUOTE]

Any such news on which papers have been targeted this time, if any?

Bakr Tuesday, May 14, 2019 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=Pragmatic Mind;1091072]I think 38000 allowance was approved for BPS 17 last year but its not clear if it would also be allowed during training or not ?

Can any one shed light on the final take home pay during training ?[/QUOTE]

I have a friend whose a Section Officer in Cabinet Division. From what I can recall is he got 38k during CTP and afterwards he started getting 52k I suppose.
I will have to check again. But he is the same guy who told me that officers in KPK received more and that in CSS in general, there are 3 groups whose basic pay has been doubled i.e, Police, Customs and IRS if I am not wrong.

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Pragmatic Mind;1091076]This argument of your's holds water as I my-self was targeted in Islamic History & Culture. I was given 33 in Paper I and 30 in Paper II which ended up my total on 686. Paper II played decisive role by becoming me fail.

This time I found all the papers having different tone and style. I would be more than happy if i got 690 this time because keeping in view the high number of seats, it would be suffice.[/QUOTE]

Damn, that is too harsh homie. I hope this time kppsc does not act in the same manner

yasirisrar Tuesday, May 14, 2019 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=Bakr;1091077]Any such news on which papers have been targeted this time, if any?[/QUOTE]

There were some fellas who were stating that public admin paper will be targeted but its not true i hope

psas Tuesday, July 02, 2019 06:53 PM

This time it will be a high scoring game and most of the aspirant who will get allocation will be those who had appeared in PMS-2016, because PMS-2016 aspirant had the knowledge of subjects that could get them more marks.


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