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IS joining academy necessary for CSS or PMS preparation?????? OR without this one can prepare for???? please give me suggestions..

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Academy is only meant for guidance and selection of subjects,rest of the part of preparation falls on your shoulder.

This forum is best academy for you. Great many aspirants and qualified people have shared their experience. For guidance, i will endorse the comments of dms664.

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madam iffat I need your guidance regarding subject selection,

for css 2013 i had

geography
sociology
journalism
constitutional law
international relations

i am confused about the following subjects

constitutional law (low scoring i got to know later about it ,but i have almost covered it )
international relations (again low soring )

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constitutional law(covered yet low scoring) + public administration (govt servant so a bit experience of it) be a good choice

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psychology (interesting ,doing it from scratch,medical sort of a thing but i am an engineer and naive in it ) ,would it help instead of constitutional law and IR


our PMS is to be held in may or june KPK,please give a thoughtful advise ,i am a bit confuse, should i change subjects for PMS as less time is there left but certainly i would change subjects for 2014 css .Kindly give advise considering both the exams

I think you had the best combination in your CSS 2013 attempt. Score depends how you attempt paper. How you make it edible for the examinar. At this stage dnt think that you have wrong combination, it will let down you morale.

Sociology,journalism and IR are not only easiest subjects but also marks fetching.

If you have an aptitude to analyse things and derive inferences,then opt Psychology otherwise constitutional law and public administration are good one to be prepared.

now, when only 3-4 months have been left for exam dnt think about any other subjects, only concentrate on your studies,otherwise you will get confused.
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these things which you are telling now about the pms posting at field and in Secretariat i had told these a lot before,as previously your views regarding posting were different slightly but now they have changed a lot.optimistic hona ache baat hay lakin euphoria may rehna aik different cheez hay.any how i agree to you what you have said now,moreover until you dont realize the facts one can not make the right design ,neither one can struggle towards the right direction without accepting facts. thanks
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these things which you are telling now about the pms posting at field and in Secretariat i had told these a lot before,as previously your views regarding posting were different slightly but now they have changed a lot.optimistic hona ache baat hay lakin euphoria may rehna aik different cheez hay.any how i agree to you what you have said now,moreover until you dont realize the facts one can not make the right design ,neither one can struggle towards the right direction without accepting facts. thanks
Brother Ashar Aziz,aap kia chahtay hain k i should cry on my posting that being in top ten in PMS,my services have not been acquired for field, ya ye k mai sub ko ye kahoun k please koi bhe is field mai enter na ho.

Aap pahlay bhe ye he bat kar chukay hain k Govt job bahtar hai ya pher private job jahan aap ko bhut zayada perks and previleges miltay hain. It is crystal clear k Govt jobs mai itni zayada facilities nhe hain. chahay aap CSS karain ya PMS. Salaryof pay scale 17 max 40000/-, some time conveyance facility may be given but not as right only previlege. Accomodation bhe mil jati hai magar kuch time lagta hai, ye sub bhe itna asaan nhe hai.

Mai ne kabhe ye nhe kaha k aap utopian world mai rahain. Aap bhe zara practical ho kar sochye. Pakistan mai kitni unemployment hai, jahan tak mera experience hai CSS or PMS 2 ese fields hain jahan atlesat merit ko consider kia jata. Jahan aap 80 % sure hotay hain k mujhay apni mahnat ka phal mil jaye ga. Tu mai q na logo ko encourage kroun k wo is field mai aayen, apni energies ko right direction mai serf
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it is 2 inform every1 that ths time it is cnfrmed 4m additnl chief scrtry offc pnjb that whn any1 leaves or dz nt join pms posting,next 4m the list below candidate will be called
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my post reply was not for someone to take it on itself instead i am much grieved on this system where merit is ignored which should be the criteria which does not require to be written in some rules,but which is a universal principle everywhere.the point of discussion which u think was that i am against pms.not at all it is not as u have taken.my point was that these days a lot of precious minds having some extra ordinary qualities like researchers,scientists,professionals,accountants like chartered accountants ,engineers and even some doctors spend all their time and energies to get an administrative post after acquiring such a difficult and precious skills which they have studied in their fields which have nothing to do with pms posts,these posts require just the people who have done studies in art subjects.because in Pakistan the bureaucracy and all these administrative and Secretariat jobs are just meant for passing bills and checks and processing departmental cases and looking after government properties as well as celebrating national days and presiding ceremonies.whereas science students and professionals should work hard in their own field,they should try to make their concepts towards discovering new things and inventing new formulas .which just requires a little bit of machinery and only requires your interest and command on your professional degrees and your scientific knowledge.because after all all the inventions are made by the humans in their libraries ,laboratories in their research field.so if someone has a professional degree and he iz jobless then he should still work day and night in his own field with the intentions to discover something,if we will do this i am sure you definitely will get a lot of fame,success,recognition and money and will also get self satisfaction by working in your own field,where u get opportunity to work in the field in which you have spend so many years during your studies.this is the only point which is the cause of such a wonderful progress of the western nations,and this is the only point through which we can save our country by preventing it from falling into energy crises and all other type of crises if we do not develop our own expertise and scientists.i am not undermining administrative posts,they have their own importance but perhaps they don't require such a skillful people which i have mentioned,they only require a typical mindset.
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Can you please post here the said notification! (i.e. the notification regarding allocations/postings of recent PMS batch.)
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Can u post here the details of postings/alloations, madam? In fact, there are a few friends of mine among them & I want to know their present place of duty.
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my post reply was not for someone to take it on itself instead i am much grieved on this system where merit is ignored which should be the criteria which does not require to be written in some rules,but which is a universal principle everywhere.the point of discussion which u think was that i am against pms.not at all it is not as u have taken.my point was that these days a lot of precious minds having some extra ordinary qualities like researchers,scientists,professionals,accountants like chartered accountants ,engineers and even some doctors spend all their time and energies to get an administrative post after acquiring such a difficult and precious skills which they have studied in their fields which have nothing to do with pms posts,these posts require just the people who have done studies in art subjects.because in Pakistan the bureaucracy and all these administrative and Secretariat jobs are just meant for passing bills and checks and processing departmental cases and looking after government properties as well as celebrating national days and presiding ceremonies.whereas science students and professionals should work hard in their own field,they should try to make their concepts towards discovering new things and inventing new formulas .which just requires a little bit of machinery and only requires your interest and command on your professional degrees and your scientific knowledge.because after all all the inventions are made by the humans in their libraries ,laboratories in their research field.so if someone has a professional degree and he iz jobless then he should still work day and night in his own field with the intentions to discover something,if we will do this i am sure you definitely will get a lot of fame,success,recognition and money and will also get self satisfaction by working in your own field,where u get opportunity to work in the field in which you have spend so many years during your studies.this is the only point which is the cause of such a wonderful progress of the western nations,and this is the only point through which we can save our country by preventing it from falling into energy crises and all other type of crises if we do not develop our own expertise and scientists.i am not undermining administrative posts,they have their own importance but perhaps they don't require such a skillful people which i have mentioned,they only require a typical mindset.
Not to be serious, that was some really inspirational story. I've had 3 internships in the last one and a half years and still i wasn't able to get a job in private sector except offer of another internship. The truth is CSS/PMS is the only place where ability/skill/ hard work counts. In private sector, you're required to have a reference before they even consider your CV. Now don't tell me that patience is a key or strive towards excellence. Yeh sab filmi batain hain.
As for doing research on your own, i would just ask you what's the average salary in our country? You need money for this and i don't think what we can earn in Pakistan is enough for us to have part-time hobbies that might lead to some inventions.

P.S. In our country, you need to have experience to get more experience Let Iffat share her experiences and please don't divert the discussion from its path. It would be very kind of you if you'd start a new thread for discussing these things.
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