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He's the most experienced guy in corruption, especially in appointing and transferring gov't officials. Once upon a time, I appeared in a test at the Provincial Assembly building (Recruitment for Assistant Secretaries), there were 50 questions, barring one question I attempted the balance. The test was a piece of cake for me as I'd attempted PMS and CSS recently. When I inquired about the result, the officials told me that the appointments have been made as per the merit, then I came to know that Mr. Inayatullah had recommended two names-this is their Islam😠
PS: Well, Mr. The Manager would have been cursing these corrupt practices if he'd have been sitting on the other side of the aisle😊. If experience and higher qualifications was that much important then they should have called me for the interview cause I've got both (MPhil in Local Government and District Administration&#128539: test score is 69.
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Brother my well wishes are with you all as the case is in court & it will be decided very soon. Let's pray for the best & right to be done with justice.
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NO NO in IMU the cut of marks were set at 74, while here they intentionally set it upto 60, otherwise they would set it above 75.They candidates they were interested to select could not score high, so they came from the other side.Moreover they are of the view that they have followed ESTA codes, I have checked the merit list they have ignored higher qualification.If some body having experience cant score 70+, how can he be awarded with 10 extra marks? I met personally secretory, deputy secretory LCB and LG as well as Minister LG, they all were of the view that we are following ESTA codes, but we have not included higher qualification. There was an employee of LG in Secretariat who scored 73, have experience more than 5 years and MS, but still he was ignored.He told us that Minister LG has his own people who are included and the criteria has been averted to accommodate those.There are people in the list who were fail in NTS test but eventually they found a way to be shortlisted.Minister LG is committed to select Jammat People as much as he can, that is why they waited for one year, otherwise the list they prepared is work of just one day.
What does the ESTA Code rules say about shortlisting???? any information? And how did they violated the rules???
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What does the ESTA Code rules say about shortlisting???? any information? And how did they violated the rules???
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v4wmhwuvib...al%29.pdf?dl=0
This is how shortlisting should be done in all of the departmenst according to the rule of business of kp. This is the esta code. Kpese merit list made public on nts site. Few weeks back.
Even still there is somewhat violation. For example if 100 people appeared for a single post. Test was conducted , and lets suppose test was topped at and only a single person scored 71 out of 100,
4 people scored 70 then the cutoff marks would be 70. Even if the 69 one holds 50 years more experience and 10 years more education. He would not be called. That is how fpsc do it and that is how kppsc does it and this should be followed. But it is very unfortunate that this procedure is not observed. Even still one can go to court. Furthermore you were right PUGF recruitments are not bound to follow esta code. They have a board. Composed their own echelon. But that can be and should be challenged because they have no criteria they can just hire someone on their whim. It means they can hire a secondry school pass for the post of chief engineer, and why not if the board does not have a problem with it and they approve it. But the public will have a problem with it.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/v4wmhwuvib...al%29.pdf?dl=0
This is how shortlisting should be done in all of the departmenst according to the rule of business of kp. This is the esta code. Kpese merit list made public on nts site. Few weeks back.
Even still there is somewhat violation. For example if 100 people appeared for a single post. Test was conducted , and lets suppose test was topped at and only a single person scored 71 out of 100,
4 people scored 70 then the cutoff marks would be 70. Even if the 69 one holds 50 years more experience and 10 years more education. He would not be called. That is how fpsc do it and that is how kppsc does it and this should be followed. But it is very unfortunate that this procedure is not observed. Even still one can go to court. Furthermore you were right PUGF recruitments are not bound to follow esta code. They have a board. Composed their own echelon. But that can be and should be challenged because they have no criteria they can just hire someone on their whim. It means they can hire a secondry school pass for the post of chief engineer, and why not if the board does not have a problem with it and they approve it. But the public will have a problem with it.
But brother you have not noted that they have also applied the same formula in shortlisting. why are you all so biased in evaluating & criticizing organizations.? Just go through the shortlisting criteria and your goodself will find the same rules as prescribed in ESTA Code and of which you have given the link. I by my ownself have seen the list in which i was having 80.6% (Aggregate), and the same type of table was sorted out. you can clearly see that in the rules everything is given weight age. You all the learned aspirants are just demanding to be selected on NTS score!!! It would be a petty as we all know that how the tests were conducted and who scored how much and how... So let's see what happens but i will advice you brothers & sisters that the shortlisting is purely done on merit. Besides, very soon the position will be cleared through court as the case is in the PHC.

And one thing more please look into the s.No.13's candidate & S.No.25th candidates of your provided list. Is it only on NTS score??? If it would have been so then why the person having 37 marks is on 13th position and the other having 47 marks is on 25th position??? Just think over it..... I think you will find your answer correctly. similarly, why is the candidate having just 20 marks in NTS being shortlisted in the list you provided??? Do not get annoy but brothers & sisters you all are misguiding the candidates and just riding over the beautiful horse of blame game( As all the Pakistanis are meant and famous for).
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But brother you have not noted that they have also applied the same formula in shortlisting. why are you all so biased in evaluating & criticizing organizations.? Just go through the shortlisting criteria and your goodself will find the same rules as prescribed in ESTA Code and of which you have given the link. I by my ownself have seen the list in which i was having 80.6% (Aggregate), and the same type of table was sorted out. you can clearly see that in the rules everything is given weight age. You all the learned aspirants are just demanding to be selected on NTS score!!! It would be a petty as we all know that how the tests were conducted and who scored how much and how... So let's see what happens but i will advice you brothers & sisters that the shortlisting is purely done on merit. Besides, very soon the position will be cleared through court as the case is in the PHC.

And one thing more please look into the s.No.13's candidate & S.No.25th candidates of your provided list. Is it only on NTS score??? If it would have been so then why the person having 37 marks is on 13th position and the other having 47 marks is on 25th position??? Just think over it..... I think you will find your answer correctly. similarly, why is the candidate having just 20 marks in NTS being shortlisted in the list you provided??? Do not get annoy but brothers & sisters you all are misguiding the candidates and just riding over the beautiful horse of blame game( As all the Pakistanis are meant and famous for).
Brother I am happy for you that you have got shortlisted. I hope you get it.
But tell me the list which I have uploaded where did you see percentages? Furthermore in the list if you had noticed higher education did not get the same amount of marks as that of which was required. More 1 year experience just got 1 marks. And about 20 marks and 45 marks guys getting shortlisted and being up and down in number then I did say that it was unfortunate that such thing has happened. And brother why do I say this. I gave kppsc office assitant test in hed department zone 2 cutoff marks were 67 and I scored 65 even I had higher education. No one who scored less that 67 was called from zone 2.
LCB completely igonred the test while the list uploadef gave 100 percent weighyage to the test. LCB also ignored higher education and experience btw if you ha read their merit list. They did not take into account any higher eductaion. They just went wtih ssc, fsc, bsc percentages . From the looks of it some 10 year old kid came up with this ingenius idea.
This LCB is a black horse. the day I went for inquiring things , they were conducting interviews of people who sued them. And the guys won.
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@ manager please spare us from your illogical and non sense reasoning please....
kid brother please try to accept the reality. I think you are still a kid and will be grown up in the future ahead.
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Brother I am happy for you that you have got shortlisted. I hope you get it.
But tell me the list which I have uploaded where did you see percentages? Furthermore in the list if you had noticed higher education did not get the same amount of marks as that of which was required. More 1 year experience just got 1 marks. And about 20 marks and 45 marks guys getting shortlisted and being up and down in number then I did say that it was unfortunate that such thing has happened. And brother why do I say this. I gave kppsc office assitant test in hed department zone 2 cutoff marks were 67 and I scored 65 even I had higher education. No one who scored less that 67 was called from zone 2.
LCB completely igonred the test while the list uploadef gave 100 percent weighyage to the test. LCB also ignored higher education and experience btw if you ha read their merit list. They did not take into account any higher eductaion. They just went wtih ssc, fsc, bsc percentages . From the looks of it some 10 year old kid came up with this ingenius idea.
This LCB is a black horse. the day I went for inquiring things , they were conducting interviews of people who sued them. And the guys won.
At the end of each candidate is basically the %age which is calculated on aggregate basis. I am sorry brother if am wrong but i was just informing you all as if the LCB is going to recruit on nepotism then how could i be shortlisted?? Neither I know the minister LCB nor do i have any approach to the LCB for my shortlisting. That is why i am taking stand over their shortlisting procedure. People just talk about rumors and i am a glaring example that i have no approach and have been shortlisted.
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What does the ESTA Code rules say about shortlisting???? any information? And how did they violated the rules???
ESTA code states that marks be given to the recruitment test if conducted any, higher qualification got 12 marks----if required qualification is 14 years of schooling and my qualification is 16 years I will get 6 marks, if mine is 18 years i will get 8 and if my qualification is 22 years of schooling i will get 12 extra marks. Now they had counted up to 16 years schooling as the required qualification.I deserve 12 marks of the higher qualification while I am getting zero. Is this what autonomy meant? They are not that much autonomous, they will have to follow certain rules, whether they want to choose ESTA CODE or PSC. We will stand against this plutocracy & aristocracy.They made rules which best guard their vested interests.
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ESTA code states that marks be given to the recruitment test if conducted any, higher qualification got 12 marks----if required qualification is 14 years of schooling and my qualification is 16 years I will get 6 marks, if mine is 18 years i will get 8 and if my qualification is 22 years of schooling i will get 12 extra marks. Now they had counted up to 16 years schooling as the required qualification.I deserve 12 marks of the higher qualification while I am getting zero. Is this what autonomy meant? They are not that much autonomous, they will have to follow certain rules, whether they want to choose ESTA CODE or PSC. We will stand against this plutocracy & aristocracy.They made rules which best guard their vested interests.
Can you please tell me your over all status? i.e SSC, FSC, BA/BSc,MAsters etc along with %ages & NTS score????
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