@ Kashinov
I absolutely love the way you responded to my post.......Fantastic!
Though I wasn't able to enjoy the lines.......
You might have done without them..... just an idea......Though I like your post anyway.
Now to the argument.....

Granted......

Why not Mr. Holmes!
A bear has every right to go southwards from north pole, if he wants. There is no physical, scientific, moral or metaphysical restriction preventing him.... Is there?

Something very seriously wrong with your deduction here, Mr. Holmes!
First, why do we "have to" walk 5km east with respect to the north pole after we have traveled the first five towards south? Secondly my dear Mr. Holmes, by your own rule, traveling east with reference to the original position means traveling south east which of course will take you farther away from the starting point. No amount of left-handedness would probably help the poor polar bear, even if we allow for the fact that it doesn't mind being called a gauche, instead of dexter, reach its original position. Thirdly, after the bear has completed the second round i.e. eastwards, what do you suggest now for its point of reference? Again its starting point? That's impossible my dear Mr. Holmes, if not outrageous..... Because of the inherent impracticality of the path suggested..

First Mr. Holmes, taking "slightly off-set to the left" to mean a 45 degree tilt seems to be an insolence which even a bear won't stand...... It's not PIA my dear Mr Holmes! It's a bear..... Secondly, a 10% possibility is not small enough to be dismissed with a single fickle flick of your eyelashes. If you also don't mind Mr. Holmes, to include a possibility that a polar bear might also be right handed, albeit only 10%, that makes it 20 - quite a respectable one, I guess - and you can expect more, I promise......
[quote] First, the page you referred to also says, "Its fur is white or "cream-colored" (cream is different from white, My dear Mr. Holmes) providing camouflage from its prey." Some more polar bears, then need to be excluded from your probability percentage.... make it 15.....ok?..... so we have 35% probability now that the holmesian deduction might not work here. Then it says, that "it MAY.............yellow..................with age................"
Ok... Now scientific studies have shown that polar bears have "one of the slowest birth rates of any mammal...." See:
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/faq/
This slow birth rate, coupled with the fact the very few cubs actually survive child mortality, whatever the factors are, has made them a "probable" victim of extinction:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCBs
The fact that they are a victim of extinction shows that they have birth rate lower than the replacement level i.e. less than two cubs per female polar bear. If we apply this less-than-replacement level birth rate on human societies, Japan, for example, it shows that they have old polar bears roughly 19.2% of the entire population! But since Japan is an extreme example, let's take that of Germany, which is about 18.3% (it was, in fact, in 2004 ):
http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/statisti...cators/46.html
Assuming that the similar rate applies to bears as well we might say that almost half of them, roughly 10%, have yellow fur instead of white. Now add this 10% to 35% above and we have 45% polar bears, almost half of them, clearly out of the domain of Holmesian deduction! Not the least because their doctors might have prevented them from taking a 15 km long walk, at this hour of "senility", besides of course the fact that they actually make a serious damage to Holmesian probability.
The conclusion to which we reach, Mr. Holmes, is that:
Even after assuming every "probability" you mentioned as certain, at least 45% of the bears don't turn out to be "polar" or "white", and 45%, my dear Mr. Holmes, are a loud enough entity to stop you from saying that you "have eliminated the impossible".
NOT SO ELEMENTARY AFTER ALL MY DEAR MR. HOLMES!

ON THE CONTRARY MR. WATSON..........Kashinove
Let me make a Holmesian Deduction now.....
From the pains you have undertaking to prove the question right and by doing so, ensure the status quo, I can safely assume that you are uncosiously considering the elitist and influential concern as "natural" and in the event of upcoming conflict of interests, you will act detrimental to the interest of the proletariat........
Outrageous, though it might sound, but How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

Regards,
Second Coming

Sorry friends, for using such huge fonts. I have, in fact, used this "sizing" feature for the first time and wasn't really aware of how it would look like. To me, it looks ugly.....very ugly....

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No problem. I have fixed it.

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Sigh of relief......
Thanks last island!

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Nice Second Coming.......................Could we discuss this wholeissue overa cup of tea or a coffee? By that I mean privately or whatever...That's up to you.

The reason for this is that I think the rest of the forum is sick of this discussion......Also I don't want the Admins or mods to ban us or kick us off the forum.

Sorry.....a typo was made when I said: You can't walk south from the "north" pole.....Actually I meant the south pole............You can't walk south from the south pole..............Honest....as far as the rest of the stuff is concerned....Let's discuss it face to face .....hehe.....Monitor to Monitor.


Take Care and Stay Cool!

Regards,

Kashinov

PS............Plz Do NOT misspell my name...It's Kashinov....and not kashinove.....

PPS.....As far as the proletarian ideologies and stuff is concerned...let's discuss that later also M 2 M.

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Though i voted for the white one, but kuch b ho sakta hai, there's the possibility k Alqaida, USA, Osama wagera ki hi koi chal na ho

Anytime dear......
Sorry for the mistake. But it wasn't meant, you see...
Oh it was just a joke man..... But I would love talk it all over.

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