Ibadat and proximity of Allah
 

Elaborate me how can you perceive the ibadat of mankind keeping in view of Hatim Tai vs Isis leaders, al-qaedas isalm and Bokoharms piety acts, while some people justify that too much hectic life and chaotic order of world affairs have made our life vulnerable to materialistic grain.What you believe, keeping this thing in your mind that mashallah we Muslims put every blame on Jewish lobbey or simply on hedonism.I'm not saying that it is wrong but I also regret this factor that why we are not identifying our own fault lines?

We Muslim always ignore Islam, we have adapted Western style and life, Mostly Pakistan Top level officers/ bureaucrats/ Judges/Leaders/Journalist/Lawyers became Atheist, We Muslim always prefer to Money. We are self responsible of our failure.

[QUOTE=sincer khan;920276]We Muslim always ignore Islam, we have adapted Western style and life, Mostly Pakistan Top level officers/ bureaucrats/ Judges/Leaders/Journalist/Lawyers became Atheist, We Muslim always prefer to Money. We are self responsible of our failure.[/QUOTE]

The point is simple, we are responsible for our own misdeeds, why we always blame the west and atheist. While they are supposed to be better than us in many respect. Please elaborate me, is this assertion that Allah resides in ones heart?

[QUOTE=ursula;920282]. While they are supposed to be better than us in many respect. Please elaborate me, is this assertion that Allah resides in ones heart?[/QUOTE]

They cannot be better than us because they are pure non-Muslim. and a third class muslim is better than any non muslim. we know that now a days muslim involve in bad activities, killing each others etc, but still we believe on GOD, and we are followers of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and Quran,

[QUOTE=sincer khan;920288]They cannot be better than us because they are pure non-Muslim. and a third class muslim is better than any non muslim. we know that now a days muslim involve in bad activities, killing each others etc, but still we believe on GOD, and we are followers of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and Quran,[/QUOTE]

Sir, I hope you have read about Hatim Tai: he was non Muslim, but he was famous for his generous activities and even Allah almighty as well as Holy prophet(pbuh) had praised his activities.Really sorry to say, I didn't find even a single Muslim scholar to be worth mentioning who has inspired me, because of his work and dedication for ummah.We are actually black hawks and also a true member of superiority complex club barbs.
Do tell me a single "Alim", "mufti" or even a "maulvi", whose tolerance level is exceptional.Whenever I happened to visit the reports of ulema and their conferences: it was directly related to[B] jingoism and sect disintegration[/B].
Don't mention the name of those persons who are non Muslim or more appropriately [B]secular[/B] in origin that inspired me a lot.Take, for example, Martin Luther King Jr. Who fought against the modern slavery and he has a dream which is crumpled and disintegrated into thousand pieces by conveservative religious orthodoxic [B]kkk[/B] mindsets , particularly I mention the religious people, with their ultraconservative mentality, which is the biggest impediment towards the progressive humanity.
May be I'm wrong, but I don't believe on such religiosity.If I'm Muslim than it doesn't mean I'm superior and I got the certificate of " paradise" without justifying my deeds and action, while Allah too is also not injust towards those non Muslims even lost their lives for true cause, such as [B]Abraham Lincoln, James Madison, and Nikroma Kugame[/B] as unsung heroes of my long list.

@Ursula

showing “them" their real face ,writing truth,rational arguments,these all things are “forbidden" and “haram" in Islamic republic.

just ask single question and they will give their verdict in seconds.you are atheist.western world charm killed your inner soul..and many other allegations.

but a day will come in near future when they will understand the theme of Muhammad Ali Jinnah speech of 11 August.



I must say bravo Ursula ...bravo


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[QUOTE=ursula;920385]Sir, I didn't find even a single Muslim scholar to be worth mentioning who has inspired me, .[/QUOTE]

Who is Molana Tariq Jameel, Doctor Zakir naik, Molana Abdul Wahab, etc, there are many muslim scholars in the world, I appreciated your opinion and idea, while you are very secular, liberal and pro western and American, but these countries will never want a stable and strong muslim world. In every situation and condition they will be against us. before I was also a pro america and western but when i found their real face, Now I have no trust on them .

[QUOTE=sincer khan;920527]Who is Molana Tariq Jameel, Doctor Zakir naik, Molana Abdul Wahab, etc, there are many muslim scholars in the world, I appreciated your opinion and idea, while you are very secular, liberal and pro western and American, but these countries will never want a stable and strong muslim world. In every situation and condition they will be against us. before I was also a pro america and western but when i found their real face, Now I have no trust on them .[/QUOTE]

Who knows the real face of these corrupt Mafias and bad bad bad band wagons, Can I mention you some books, which were written by secular and that truly exposed their faces as well.(I mean the corruption and black faces of these fascist and true nazis like.....)
First, you tell me any [B]concrete[/B] evidences from Mr.Zakir or Mr.Tariqs speech that world is moving towards doomsday scenario and that who are worst enemies by name as well?please, don't say Jews and Christians, because these groups are subdivision of [B]religion[/B] itself.
Than, who has founded the modern slavery and who is benefitting from this system the most?
Take the case , for example, Bush family, do tell me the history of this devilish dynasty and how catastrophic their system of governance really it is?Any mullah or any scholar has even told you.Sorry to say, I don't believe on someones rhetoric and loud mouthed speeches, because Islam forbids me blind followings and for this I read more than 12 books (not written by any of these ulemas but yes they were secular.(Mr.Tariq jamil once also praised Zia's islamism as well). Can I share [URL="http://www.cssforum.com.pk/911921-post13.html"]how devilish zia really was[/URL].
Refer to Muslim ummahs barbadi than I would love to quote
"[B] KHUDDA NE AJ TAK KESSY QOUM K HALAT NHY BADLY NA HO JISS KO KHYAL APAPNY HALAT K BADLNE KA[/B]"

I Can't be against your opinion, thoughts, views and ideas but one thing should be cleared that Jews are always our Enemy, it is mentioned in the holy Quran as well as our Holy Prophet also warned us against the Jews. I will blame Israel and their peoples, Because they have involved in Arab countries war. they destabilize their peace, they never want us as a strong and a develop Nation, they will never want "Spreading Of Islam" in the world. So it is our responsibility that we should defend ourselves from them.(and we are trying to change our future but our leaders are not interested, it is not our fault while it is the fault of our corrupt and Nalaik Leaders )

[QUOTE=sincer khan;920728]it is mentioned in the holy Quran as well as [B]our Holy Prophet also warned us against the Jews[/B]. [/QUOTE]
first of all its [U]religious mindset[/U] not seculars.
and i hope you also read this hadeeth as well,
I didn't remember the exact words, but it says that my ummah will be disintegrated by their internal conflicts not by external enemies.
Secondly, i would love to quote some experts of a book "The badghdad debacle at the hand of Changez"
[B]while Changez was busy in looting the baghdad suburbs, an old lady of mid eighty went out of the house, shouting"Changez, you will be plundered by the wrath of almighty Allah."
Changez replied,"I'm the same wrath to whom you're talking about."[/B]
[QUOTE]I will blame Israel and their peoples, Because they have involved in Arab countries war.[/QUOTE]
just read about the history from this perspective that why jews were holocausted by nazis?
Than this stuff,only israel, where those neocons and fascist have gone, who are more catastrophic than jews themselves.For examle illuminats and zionists.
Do you know pop francis, is a big crocodile himself.A religious figure indeed!

[QUOTE] they destabilize their peace, they never want us as a strong and a develop Nation, they will[B] never want "Spreading Of Islam[/B]" in the world.[/QUOTE]
Come on, its not your responsibility to spread islam, Allah has made it and he hiself is responsible for this.We must not be worried about this.
Yes! we will soon perish away if we keep moving on the same track of anti-islamic practices such as intolerance, sect superiority complexes and intolerance as well as injustice.
So it is our responsibility that we should defend ourselves from them.(and we are trying to change our future but our [B]leaders [/B]are not interested, it is not our fault while it is the fault of our corrupt and Nalaik Leaders )
Leaders! leaders! leaders!
My question to you, who elect these leaders.
Kher se hm bhy koy itne pak saf to hae nhy,
First introspection must be started from within my own self than i should deserve this right to raise my finger at someone else.

Anyways i also do agree with your concern, but the point is crystal clear:
Incompetents deserve selfish leaders as well.:sleep: