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The Lojic Friday, August 26, 2011 09:39 PM

exactly.. mujhe tou shadeed afsos hota hai jab dekhta hoon k zakir naik jese gumraah treen insaan k peeche log mad ho k lagay hue hain jab k zakir saheb jab g karay deen e muhammadi sawaw, sheaar e deeni, zaat e rusool sawaw aur aqdaar e islami ki khullam khulla tauheen kr rahay hotay hain, its heart rendering to see people following him, its awfully and horribly dangerous to follow him

Last Island Friday, August 26, 2011 09:39 PM

[QUOTE=imran bakht;344928]i am confused[/QUOTE]
Who is a preacher and a scholar? And how one can be? You know the answer. Do some research and try to find out how come this Doctor fits in to the category of a Muballiqh or an Islamic Scholar?

imbindas Friday, August 26, 2011 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=The Lojic;344913]what knowledge we get from dr zakir who says may god be pleased with yazeed !!!! what will you say about the authenticity of a person who has love and respect for yazeed , the most cursed and hated person this world have ever produced, the murderer of ahlul bait r.a[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ZxVRVyR0A&feature=related]True Incident of Karbla Part-1 - YouTube[/url]
[B]
Watch all parts of the above link. the truth will reveal onto you Inshallah. [/B]

[B][SIZE="2"]Zakir naik is Salafi,and they used to praise Caliph Ameer Yazid. Sunni's except Syeds and followers of Sufiasm do not curse Yazid ,and Praise is out of Question. [/SIZE][/B]

Taimoor Gondal Friday, August 26, 2011 09:43 PM

I use to listen and read Javaid Ahmed Ghamdi, and his thoughts inspire me...

The Lojic Friday, August 26, 2011 10:02 PM

dear imbindas you have send a link about speech of dr.israr .. i have already listen his lies many times.. he has enmity for ahlul bait who are the masters of this universe and mankind and masters of jannat...

my dear dr. israr bhi usi soch k malik hain jo naik ki hai.. dr. israr kb se authority ho gaye ham musalmanu pe?

wo dr israar jinhoo ne mazallah, summa mazallah maula e kainaat ali r.a ki shaan me baheemana gustaakhi ki thi [ ab yahaan main bayaan nai kr sakta mujhe haya ati hai] jis k baaes muslmanu kea shia kea sunni, sub ko shadeed dukh hua aur hatta k
q-tv waloon ne uss gustaahi k baad se tfseer e quraan ki c.d chalana band kr di in dr israar ki...
and you are saying listen him?????

is he able to be listen now? the person who says ameer yazeed haq pe tha.. do you think is he able to b listen????????
al ayaazu billah ala zalik

JazibRoomi Friday, August 26, 2011 10:03 PM

Mistakes by Zakir Naik ... my research
 
In my opinion Zakir Naik is not at all a scholar. He is just a Munazira Baz. He tries to impress his listener by pretending that he has a sharp memory. His explanations are often flawed and references wrong. I quote a few examples in this regard (in 2007, I transcribed and edited his CDs in book form for Jahangir Publishers).

Download his book The Quran and Modern Science.(Download link is
[url]http://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunnahonline.com%2Film%2Fquran%2Fqms.pdf&rct=j&q=the+quran+and+modern+science+by+zakir+naik&ei=HVMxTvWrEcHmiAKavJSeBg&usg=AFQjCNE-wkGIBYZSdUo1Cd2ofH_S3Z43-g&cad=rja[/url] I ll point mistakes in the first 6 pages of this book, ie, from pg 9 to pg 15. I left one mistake on page number 12 because it requires much detailed explanation

[B]1- On page no 9, Zakir Naik wrote “According to the Big Bang, the whole universe was initially ONE BIG MASS (PRIMARY NEBULA). Then there was a Big Bang (secondry separation) which resulted in THE FORMATION OF GALAXIES. THESE THEN DIVIDED TO FORM STARS, PLANETS, THE SUN, THE MOON, ETC." (mistakes in capital)[/B]
But according to big bang, initially all the matter, energy and space of the universe was concentrated at a MATHEMATICAL POINT. Mathematical point has no mass and no volume and infinite density. So according to big bang universe was created from NOTHINGNESS and not from ONE BIG MASS. ( In fact no one has still able to calculate what happened at zero time T = 0)

[B]2- As already stated, Naik said that after big bang first Galaxies were created followed by stars, planets, sun and moon.[/B]
Now this is wrong because after big bang first atomic particles (electron, proton, neutron ) came into being which join to form hydrogen atoms. Hydrogen atoms then came together to form stars and stars came together due to gravitation to form galaxies.

[B]3- In the same book pg no 10, Naik wrote: “ in early times people believed that the earth is flat. For centuries, men were afraid to venture out too far, lest they should fall off the edge. SIR FRANCIS DRAKE WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO PROVED THAT THE EARTH IS SPHERICAL WHEN HE SAILED AROUND IN 1597.[/B]
It is wrong to say that people in 15th century believed that earth is flat. Aristotle (340 BC) told that “earth is not flat like a plate but spherical like ball” and he also gave logics to support his argument.

[B]4- Same book pg no 11, Naik wrote, “IT WAS BELIEVED BY EARLY CIVILIZATION THAT THE MOON EMANATES ITS OWN LIGHT”.[/B]
This is also not right … Aristotle knew that moon does not have its on light but reflects sunlight.

[B]5- Same book same pg (no 11) Naik wrote, "The Arabic word for the sun in the Quran is Shams. It is referred to as Siraaj, which means a torch, or as Wahhaaj which means a blazing lamp or as diya which means shining glory. All three descriptions are appropriate to the sun, since it generates intense heat and light by its INTERNAL COMBUSTION".[/B]
Even a 10th grade student knows that the sun owes its heat and light not to combustion but fusion.

[B]6- Same book pg no 15 Naik wrote, "The light of the sun is due to a CHEMICAL process on its surface"[/B]
well, well, well ... fusion is not at all a chemical process.

Also watch this video [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk5q9TeGo14&feature=player_embedded[/url]
[YOUTUBE]bk5q9TeGo14&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

Invincible Friday, August 26, 2011 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=The Lojic;344913]what knowledge we get from dr zakir who says may god be pleased with yazeed !!!! what will you say about the authenticity of a person who has love and respect for yazeed , the most cursed and hated person this world have ever produced, the murderer of ahlul bait r.a[/QUOTE]

[B][SIZE="3"]Please Pay heed. [/SIZE][/B]

[YOUTUBE]iRSZNbEyOIo&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]


[YOUTUBE]hCKBzKB61Bo&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

Regards,

Ali Ahmad Syed Friday, August 26, 2011 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=imbindas;344935][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ZxVRVyR0A&feature=related]True Incident of Karbla Part-1 - YouTube[/url]
[B]
Watch all parts of the above link. the truth will reveal onto you Inshallah. [/B]
[/QUOTE]

The video of Dr. Israr in the above link is totally misleading. I first heard the term of Shian-e-Usman (R-A) from his mouth. He is putting Hazrat Usman (R-A) against Hazrat Ali (R-A) and building the arguments that the supporters of Hazrat Ali (R-A) were involved in the Shahdat of Hazrat Usman (R-A).

[QUOTE][B][SIZE="2"]Sunni's except Syeds and followers of Sufiasm do not curse Yazid ,and Praise is out of Question. [/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]

Absolutely wrong. I don't know to whom are you referring the term Sunni? Writing Yazid as Ameer or Kaliph is an insult to the great sacrifice of Nephew of the Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH), Syed ul Shabaab-e-ahl-e-Janna Hazrat Hussain (R-A).

mjkhan Friday, August 26, 2011 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=Ali Ahmad Syed;344958]The video of Dr. Israr in the above link is totally misleading. I first heard the term of Shian-e-Usman (R-A) from his mouth. He is putting Hazrat Usman (R-A) against Hazrat Ali (R-A) and building the arguments that the supporters of Hazrat Ali (R-A) were involved in the Shahdat of Hazrat Usman (R-A).

[/QUOTE]

shian e usman and shian e ali were the first two sects in islam(or perhaps in muslims)(this can be confirmed by going through history).a particular class,sect or whatever of muslims blame hazrat ali for the murder of hazrat usman.

The Lojic Saturday, August 27, 2011 05:55 AM

Yazeed lanatullah
 
[Quraan mein khud laant ki hai allah ne zalimeen pe]

1.bilkul ghalat aur lame explanation hai zakir naaik ki
Hm monineen o muslmanaan q bhool jaen jo ho chuka??? jo yazeed maloon ne kia?? is this horrible history forgetful? ? ? never ever!!!distinguishing b/w haqq and baatil is all the time deadly necessary!!!!


2.yazeed pe lanat krna tou ain emaan aur fitrat hai..aur uss k liye dua krna aise e hai jese Firon. shaddaad ya Nmrood k liye dua krna!!! aik ghairat mand insaan soch bhi nai sakta, siwaye aik yazeedi k. imam ahmad bin hanbal tak ne ijazat di hai uss pe laanat ki, aur digarr 100's of great ulma ne..


3.aur jahan tak taaluq hai un saabiqa ulmaa ka linhoon ne yazeed ko acha kaha hai tou wo log b zalimeen ka sath dene wale qarar paaengay... q.k wo koi nabi ya imam ya hujjat e khuda tou nai naa!!!

4. dr naaik siwaye fitnay k kuch nai.. muslmaanoo ko iss mein zarra braaber b shak nai hona chahiye..zakir naaik dushmanaan e ahlul bait mein se hai..

5. zakir naik ne un ahle bait k dushmanoo ko apna dost qaraar dai hai,..yazeed ko dua di hai.. ahle bait k dushmanoo ko dua???????? wo ahle bait jin k mutaaliq aqa e 2 jahaan sawaw ne farmaya
" Main tum mein 2 cheezen chor k ja raha hoon ta k mere baad tum kabhi gumraah na ho 1.Quraan air 2. mere Ahle bait jo meri aulaad hai
[ tirmizi and muslim shareef]

6. kuch sahi, mutwaatir aur siqqah ahadees:

Qala nabi Allah sawaw:

1.mere ahle bait kashti e nooh ki manind hain, mere ahle bait mujh se hain aur main ahle bait se hoon,

2.inka gosht mera gosht, inka khoon mera khoon,

3.jinhoo ne in ahle bait se jung ki unhoo ne mujh muhammad se jung ki,

4.jis k dil mein mere ahle bait k liye zarra braaber bughz hoga wo jannat mein dakhil nai hosakta,

5.husnain jannat k sardaar hain,hussain mujh se main hussain se hoon

6. ali mere bhai aur mere wassi hain, ali ka muhib mera muhib aur ali ka dushman mera dushman

7.aur ali mere baad her momin k wli hain, jis jis ka main maula uss uss k ali maula,

8.fatima tamaam kainaat ki aur jannat ki tamaam aurtoon ki sardar hain.


[bukhaari, muslim, tirmazi, ibne majja, mishkaat, tabraani, musnad ahmed etc]


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