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sara soomro Thursday, January 06, 2011 04:44 PM

[QUOTE]How can we preach Islam to non-muslims in such circumstances,if he/she has some prejudiced thoughts against our beloved Prophet(SAW)?

Should we kill him/her(Non-muslim) on the spot or argue with logic?[/QUOTE]



[B]it depends on the person to who u r discussing. if he has that idea but he want to learn and understand then situation is different

but if he don't want to understand and continuously using bad words to prophet then treatment is difffrent

here also depends on that non muslim either he wants to learn or not. if he is not intrested then u have to inspire then with ur deeds ....
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mjkhan Thursday, January 06, 2011 05:27 PM

[QUOTE][/QUOTE][QUOTE]aghar kisi badbakht ne aap RASOL {SAAWW} kay ahad e shan main gushtakhi ki ya tuheen ki aur aap {SAAWW} ne un ko maaf farma deya tu ya husun-e-khulq
aur wasf aap {SAAWW} ka hai [/QUOTE]

dear maaf to tub farmatay jub AP(SAAWW) isay pehlay qabil a qatal gunnah declare kartay..(lakin han is may koi shak nahee k ye aik nihayat he qabil a nafrat gunnah hai bt the question is that k kia ye qabil a qatal hai k nahee)

[QUOTE]lekin umat main se ya kisi ko huq hasil nahi hai huzur apna huq maaf farma saktay hai [/QUOTE]

1.)ye kon decide karay ka k kis ka kya haq hai?agar RASOOL(SAAWW) na apna haq maaf kar dia aur hamara koi ikhtayar nahee un k haq par kuch kehney ka to phir hum nay un k gustakh ko qatal karnay ka haq kiu apney pas rakh lia?ye to un ka haq hai wo maaf karain ya saza dain..am i right?remember we are the ummat of MUHAMMAD(PBUH) not waris

2.)are we followers of RASOOL(SAAWW)?if yes to hum bajaey is k, k RASOOL(SAAWW) ko follow karain aur jo unho(saaww) nay kia wo karain to phir hum us k otherwise kiu act kar rahain hain?
(moreover agar hum RASOOL(SAAWW) sa ishq kartay hain to sachay ishq ka bhi ye hee taqaza hai k jis say ishq kia jaey us ki raey aur amal ko apni khuwahish(kiu k RASOOL(SAAWW) ko gali deney waley ko qatal karney ka dil to baharhal karta hai and i have my reasons for it but my reasons are not the standard of deciding right or wrong) aur soch aur asool o zawabit par tarjeeh dee jaey..(atlest this is my way of going about it)


[QUOTE]lekin aghar umati kisi badzuban ko nazar andaz kar day tu ya husun-e-kulq nahi behamyati aur begharti hugi ...

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noone is or can be in disagreement with this..hum kabhi bhi RASOOL(SAWW) k gustakh ko nazar andaaz nahee kar saktay...

[QUOTE]Another important point is "What is Gustakhi itself?" How exactualy to define it? The point is raised in number of occasions.[/QUOTE]

very good point...hum jub bhi koi amal RASOOL(SAAWW) ki taleemat k against kartay hain to kia wo gustakhi nahee?ab kia hum yahan ye kahain gey k gali dena(naozobillah) bari gustakhi hai aur ye chohti ya phir these two things are different in nature?

moreover i dont buy the opinion of the person in the video by saara somroo..
reason...how on earth can someone declare that hum ALLAH G k sath to mamalaat to kar saktay hain par RASOOL(SAAWW) k sath nahee...this is WRONG..koi bhi soorat nahee hai k ALLAH G k liye bhi koi ghalt alfaz(naozobillah) ya something like that use kiye jain..nomatter whatever daleel he comes up with...

baakhtawar Thursday, January 06, 2011 05:51 PM

@invisible. in my humble opinion. (i would suggest as logic also asserts) first of all the preacher should deal with the "Shirk" coz any biased person who is non-beleiver and has some reservations against Allah ji and Prophet (PBUH), he/she should be dealt with logic and basic preacihngs. as he/she is fist confronting wid "Shirk" and certainly the manzil of "Shirk" should be followed by "Risalat". lihaza risalat ya tauheen ka mamla baad men ata hai.any one can correct me if am wrong.thnx

shahid158 Thursday, January 06, 2011 06:16 PM

plz @Invincible
app kisi alam se contact kro aur sb se bar k islamic ideology ko samjo
plz app quran pak ki surah lahab ki tafseer ko gore se paro
[COLOR="Black"]]miss sara is absolutely right........aur es mai sb firqe agree hai[/COLOR]
waise quran aur hadees se br k koi logic nhi hota
aur island ki post enough hai eske liye

sara soomro Thursday, January 06, 2011 06:18 PM

[QUOTE]dear maaf to tub farmatay jub AP(SAAWW) isay pehlay qabil a qatal gunnah declare kartay..(lakin han is may koi shak nahee k ye aik nihayat he qabil a nafrat gunnah hai bt the question is that k kia ye qabil a qatal hai k nahee)
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[B]necahy di gae post main kuch dalael hai jo k quran sharef aur hadeesh ki roshni main diya gae hai aap ko is baat ka pata chal jaey ga k woh qabil qatal hai ya nahi ...[/B]

[url]http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-section/islam/41587-tawhenay-resalat.html#post241190[/url]

Invincible Friday, January 07, 2011 11:11 AM

[B][QUOTE=sara soomro;253108][B]it depends on the person to who u r discussing. if he has that idea but he want to learn and understand then situation is different

but if he don't want to understand and continuously using bad words to prophet then treatment is difffrent

here also depends on that non muslim either he wants to learn or not. if he is not intrested then u have to inspire then with ur deeds ....
[/B][/QUOTE]


Does it make any sense?

It will be nonsense to expect positive attitude from a non muslim who is strived by you to convert into islam.He/she can argue to any extent.Do ask from tableeghi jamat,how they are being ridiculed in foreign countries where they endeavor to spread Islam.


[SIZE="3"]If this question had been asked in pakistan, Questioner would have been stoned to death by our fanatic Molvies. (Learn Tolerance plz). [/SIZE]

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