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quantumX Friday, March 10, 2017 06:10 PM

Would English be able to hold its place in Civil Service or not?
 
Let's think for a moment that more or less 97 percent of candidates fail CSS exam because of the fact that they are weak at English. And, if FPSC ever takes a decision to hold the exam in Urdu down the road by making it compulsory medium to attempt the papers, then it might only add two or maybe three percent to the actual percentage of the passed candidates. Assuming the outcome, what would 94 or 95 percent failed candidates do in the rest of their lives, considering majority having no knowledge of English at all, and while considering the probable situation that it might be a career or educational requirement for them ahead after being done with CSS?

What do you guys think of the proposed exclusion of English from the toughest competitive exam of Pakistan, while keeping in view its importance everywhere else in the world?

Outsider Friday, March 10, 2017 07:13 PM

I posted this some days ago about this:
"This is so out of touch with reality, which is that most of the courses International Relations, Economics, Political Science, Physics, Chemistry, Biology etc are taught and thus understood in English language across most universities in Pakistan. Quality course material is available in English. I am all for being and sounding patriotic but the ground reality is very little work has been done in making Urdu the medium in which the modern subjects are taught and understood. Which private sector university teaches International Relations in Urdu?
First step should have been translating (officially, not by private publishers) the course materials into Urdu and then introducing them into universities and later, the competitive examinations.
Anyways, i think if this does materialize, the FPSC will leave the choice to the candidates. And we all know what happens when the results are out and most of the passing candidates have attempted in one language. Scandals."

Naveed Aman Safi Saturday, March 11, 2017 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=Outsider;1010124]I posted this some days ago about this:
"This is so out of touch with reality, which is that most of the courses International Relations, Economics, Political Science, Physics, Chemistry, Biology etc are taught and thus understood in English language across most universities in Pakistan. Quality course material is available in English. I am all for being and sounding patriotic but the ground reality is very little work has been done in making Urdu the medium in which the modern subjects are taught and understood. Which private sector university teaches International Relations in Urdu?
First step should have been translating (officially, not by private publishers) the course materials into Urdu and then introducing them into universities and later, the competitive examinations.
Anyways, i think if this does materialize, the FPSC will leave the choice to the candidates. And we all know what happens when the results are out and most of the passing candidates have attempted in one language. Scandals."[/QUOTE]

The decision is adding more problems rather than solving them. First, you have to educate yourself in the English language, as you said most of the subjects are being taught, studied and researched in English.
Then if one wants to appear in the exam he will have to translate all that he studied by himself? What would he do about the jargons and all the technical stuff that can't be translated to Urdu?

You're right that first there should be a need to make the education in Urdu. But that also comes with lots of difficulties. What about those students that get their education from private institutions? would the Urdu medium guys be able to compete with them? I appreciate that the governments have introduced the English language from primary level in most of the public schools. It will make sure that both the students of Public and Private institutions are on the same page and then competition will be just.


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