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Then one should not waste hard earned money of parents on higher education.Graduation can suffice and serve this purpose well.
Do you really think that higher education works for jobs only??????

I totally disagree,Girls should not let themselves suffer for no reason!
Getting higher education can be a passion too,It means every girl who go for higher education want a job...oh not at all
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Then one should not waste hard earned money of parents on higher education.Graduation can suffice and serve this purpose well.
let me be a bit more precise.if women is to be kept inside the four walls then they should not enter the professional studies i.e in the field of medical,engineering,accountancy etc.

in china(as a lot are inspired by her these days) half the sky is held up by women.restricting women to home means getting yourself deprived of a big number of intelligent workforce which could otherwise take part in the development of country.
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let me be a bit more precise.if women is to be kept inside the four walls then they should not enter the professional studies i.e in the field of medical,engineering,accountancy etc.

in china(as a lot are inspired by her these days) half the sky is held up by women.restricting women to home means getting yourself deprived of a big number of intelligent workforce which could otherwise take part in the development of country.
Now i suppose you are taking discussion on the wrong track,I am not saying that women should confine themselves in four wall or anything like that!
What i am saying is...that they should not go for job when they don't need it. that's just a extra burden.
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I would like to second both of you. I have attempted for css twice. I am desperate for doing css and have a passion for it. It doesn't mean that I don't like to stay at home, but I really wants to contribute to my society, Although I am very strict and concerned about my moral and religious values, they are no doubt my top most priority but, I wants to incorporate my skills, knowledge and talent into the society, as women have an integral role in the nation building. Women should give the top most priority to her family and they should give good training to their generations, but she can do it along with the job as well.
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I would like to second both of you. I have attempted for css twice. I am desperate for doing css and have a passion for it. It doesn't mean that I don't like to stay at home, but I really wants to contribute to my society, Although I am very strict and concerned about my moral and religious values, they are no doubt my top most priority but, I wants to incorporate my skills, knowledge and talent into the society, as women have an integral role in the nation building. Women should give the top most priority to her family and they should give good training to their generations, but she can do it along with the job as well.
That's the point really
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the point,now a days,is not that a family needs financial support from a woman or not.the point is that this country is in need of an effective workforce.lets us suppose 20% of our population is educated in real terms and out of this 20% the representation of women is 5%.now in this situation we are already short of doctors,engineers etc required to achieve the desired level of progress.if we take out the 5% women from the working force the situation will get more worse.

it is a national duty for women to work and play their role for the betterment of this country.

when situation will get stable to phir beshak araam sa ghar baith jain sari larkian.
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@Samina

Thats something more than "just a burden for women"

@mano
There is nothing bad but things must be prioritized and my point is that for a women 1st and top most priority should be home and family etc. Then comes other things like job and passion and national responsibility and so on. So, if everything goes fine at home, family dont hav problem, and she can take care of moral values then there is no harm in working. Hope i made my point clear.

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Use of degree is not necessarily in some profession or job. Degree or higher education can be used in many effective ways. I dont agree that girls shouldnt be doctors or scientists etc. Education gives no harm at any stage of life. It helps. A female doctor can practice in her locality or for some limited time in big hospital keeping in view her purpose as serving nation, similarly she can be helpful for family, kids etc, a good educated women makes future generations good and educated. So, education should be acquired and things should be managed as per requirement as i mentioned above with priorities

All what I said is my personal opinion, and may be wrong
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Thats something more than "just a burden for women"

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There is nothing bad but things must be prioritized and my point is that for a women 1st and top most priority should be home and family etc. Then comes other things like job and passion and national responsibility and so on. So, if everything goes fine at home, family dont hav problem, and she can take care of moral values then there is no harm in working. Hope i made my point clear.

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Use of degree is not necessarily in some profession or job. Degree or higher education can be used in many effective ways. I dont agree that girls shouldnt be doctors or scientists etc. Education gives no harm at any stage of life. It helps. A female doctor can practice in her locality or for some limited time in big hospital keeping in view her purpose as serving nation, similarly she can be helpful for family, kids etc, a good educated women makes future generations good and educated. So, education should be acquired and things should be managed as per requirement as i mentioned above with priorities

All what I said is my personal opinion, and may be wrong
I would suggest that please read my last post, you will come to know that it is almost the same discussion as you are also mentioning.
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I would suggest that please read my last post, you will come to know that it is almost the same discussion as you are also mentioning.
Yes I have read that too. You talked about contribution to the society there, and I think that contribution to society is not limited just to civil services or some other profession. One can contribute to society at micro level like from one's home or locality, like spreading awareness among people around you, like making people educated and so on. MEans if a person oath to serve, then there are no lack of opportunities and no responsibility or burden can stop him.
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Yes I have read that too. You talked about contribution to the society there, and I think that contribution to society is not limited just to civil services or some other profession. One can contribute to society at micro level like from one's home or locality, like spreading awareness among people around you, like making people educated and so on. MEans if a person oath to serve, then there are no lack of opportunities and no responsibility or burden can stop him.
Yes I agree, but it was just an example and I am trying to tell that the reason behind my passion is not to break the norms of the society or to do something for the sake of job only.....
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