ISI should take action against Dawn News Paper
 

It has been learnt by every patriotic Pakistani that Dawn News Paper has been publishing fabricated stories and writing editorials against ISI and Pakistani forces and it has been washing the brain of common people of Pakistan against ISI and Pakistani forces.

We, Pakistani will not bear such kind of material against our institutions specially, Pakistani Forces and ISI. Because we love them and we can do anything for them. We request the ISI, MI and Pakistan Military forces to take action against Dawn News Paper and all other Electronic Media Channels and Print Media Newspapers which are working against Pakistan.

These so called Pakistani Channels and Newspapers are not Pakistani as they are working against Pakistan and they have been disseminating fabricated and concocted stories.

These channels, initially worked on the propaganda of spreading disinformation about Taliban. They mixed original Talibans with CIA and RAW made TTP (Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan). We know very well that original Taliban are safeguarding our country and they are working for our betterment. Only TTP which are backed by CIA, RAW and MOSSAD working against Pakistan, killing innocent people and attacking on our institutions.


[SIZE="5"][B]Dawn News Paper is the biggest Security threat for Pakistan.[/B][/SIZE]

Let me prove here that how Dawn Newspaper is the biggest threat for Pakistan.

On September, 8th, 2012, Dawn Newspaper on its first page published a journey of "Cyril Almeida" by the name of "As a battle morphs, a population remains fearful". In this journey the writer has mentioned about the Mohmand agency and where security check points are established in that Agency. He has Cleary informed to CIA, RAW and MOSSAD backed TTP (Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan) that how they can attack and kill our soldiers by highlighting location of their check posts and number of soldiers on each check post.

In these days when CIA backed TTP is active, recently attacked Kamrah airbase, there was no need to publish such journey. Even, I think that all such repoters and journalists are also the employees of CIA. Their activities should be closely monitored by ISI and they should not be let to write such things. Here is the link of that journey:

[URL="http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=08_09_2012_001_008"]http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=08_09_2012_001_008[/URL]

On the same day in its editorial, Dawn Newspaper has written against Pakistan Army that it has established state within state and many other things against Pakistan Army.

And the material it has published today against ISI is unbearable and it proves that Dawn Newspaper its channel and many other channels are working against Pakistan. Here is the link what it has written by quoting FOX news. [B]If any interview was published in foreign newspaper against our agency, ISI, it was the responsibility of Dawn to criticize such baseless stories. But since our media is not our media so it published fake story instead of criticizing such concocted story.[/B] Here is the link of that fake story which is published purely to malign our security agencies:

[URL="http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=11_09_2012_014_004"]http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=11_09_2012_014_004[/URL]

disagreement is your right
 

My very respected fellow i respect your loyalty and patriotism to our beloved country. However, your niggling and dented remarks against the only independent and prestigious news paper (the Dawn) stands to be an act committed by an illiterate lover of Pakistan.

Without any doubt we love our country, but being literate, well educated citizen, we should not turn our patriotism against realism. Facts are facts which cannot be belittled by emotional chauvinism. Writing against ISI or Pakistan Army does not tantamount to be enemy of Pakistan.

Every one knows after may 2 incident that Pakistan is home and safe heaven to terrorists. It is sheer failure of Pakistan army to protect country from attacks / operation by american soldiers. It is also complete failure of I.S.I to locate intelligence sharing / reports about the existence of world most wanted terrorist. (The Osama and company).

Daily Dawn only creates awarness among Pakistani citizens about how army operates in the country. Yes ofcourse, it is a state within a state. there is no authority, power, institution, document, opinion before which army is answerable. it is also fact that army has ruled the country for half of the period of its age.

let us tern to be realistic then patriotic.

[QUOTE=malik4all;477624]My very respected fellow i respect your loyalty and patriotism to our beloved country. However, your niggling and dented remarks against the only independent and prestigious news paper (the Dawn) stands to be an act committed by an illiterate lover of Pakistan.

Without any doubt we love our country, but being literate, well educated citizen, we should not turn our patriotism against realism. Facts are facts which cannot be belittled by emotional chauvinism. Writing against ISI or Pakistan Army does not tantamount to be enemy of Pakistan.

Every one knows after may 2 incident that Pakistan is home and safe heaven to terrorists. It is sheer failure of Pakistan army to protect country from attacks / operation by american soldiers. It is also complete failure of I.S.I to locate intelligence sharing / reports about the existence of world most wanted terrorist. (The Osama and company).

Daily Dawn only creates awarness among Pakistani citizens about how army operates in the country. Yes ofcourse, it is a state within a state. there is no authority, power, institution, document, opinion before which army is answerable. it is also fact that army has ruled the country for half of the period of its age.

let us tern to be realistic then patriotic.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are right that facts are facts. But what will you say if provided facts are false and the main purpose of those facts is to malign someone.

Do not comment here if you do not know about Media ethics. It was responsibility of Dawn Newspaper to ascertain the facts before publishing it. As I mentioned that in today's newspaper, Dawn has written what Fox Newspaper says about our agency. And off course, foreign media will never ever favor our agencies and our military forces.

First of all, being a Pakistani Newspaper, It was responsibility of Dawn Newspaper to criticize any such interview which was published without mentioning the source that who, when, where and how took that interview. If Dawn did not want to criticize, it was then at least required to ascertain the facts before publishing it.

As far as failure of Pakistan Army or forces is concerned then what will you say about 9/11 incident. Did CIA and other US agencies not fail when that incident had happened? Did RAW not fail when Mumbai was attacked.

And you will hear soon by Americans that Osama was nothing except a character for America to attack on Muslim Countries. Several people in America already accept that he died long back in 2002. It was just a policy of Obama for upcoming elections to show the world that he has killed Osama. And the second part of story was to start propaganda against Pakistan that it is a failure state.

Why in your opinion only ISI and Pakistan Military are failed? Open your eyes and see what is happening in the world. You are too young to comment here.

And let me also tell you that it was ISI and Pakistani forces that they did not let the enemy to enter in Kamrah Airbase. Our single soldier was enough for 10 CIA agents and he scarified his life to save our National assets. Had it happened in any other country, militants would have killed several people and damaged assets as well. [B]We feel proud that we have world’s best force and intelligence agency.[/B]

[QUOTE=Kainatkhan;477607]It has been learnt by every patriotic Pakistani that Dawn News Paper has been publishing fabricated stories and writing editorials against ISI and Pakistani forces and it has been washing the brain of common people of Pakistan against ISI and Pakistani forces.

We, Pakistani will not bear such kind of material against our institutions specially, Pakistani Forces and ISI. Because we love them and we can do anything for them. We request the ISI, MI and Pakistan Military forces to take action against Dawn News Paper and all other Electronic Media Channels and Print Media Newspapers which are working against Pakistan.

These so called Pakistani Channels and Newspapers are not Pakistani as they are working against Pakistan and they have been disseminating fabricated and concocted stories.

These channels, initially worked on the propaganda of spreading disinformation about Taliban. They mixed original Talibans with CIA and RAW made TTP (Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan). We know very well that original Taliban are safeguarding our country and they are working for our betterment. Only TTP which are backed by CIA, RAW and MOSSAD working against Pakistan, killing innocent people and attacking on our institutions.


[SIZE="5"][B]Dawn News Paper is the biggest Security threat for Pakistan.[/B][/SIZE]

Let me prove here that how Dawn Newspaper is the biggest threat for Pakistan.

On September, 8th, 2012, Dawn Newspaper on its first page published a journey of "Cyril Almeida" by the name of "As a battle morphs, a population remains fearful". In this journey the writer has mentioned about the Mohmand agency and where security check points are established in that Agency. He has Cleary informed to CIA, RAW and MOSSAD backed TTP (Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan) that how they can attack and kill our soldiers by highlighting location of their check posts and number of soldiers on each check post.

In these days when CIA backed TTP is active, recently attacked Kamrah airbase, there was no need to publish such journey. Even, I think that all such repoters and journalists are also the employees of CIA. Their activities should be closely monitored by ISI and they should not be let to write such things. Here is the link of that journey:

[URL="http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=08_09_2012_001_008"]http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=08_09_2012_001_008[/URL]

On the same day in its editorial, Dawn Newspaper has written against Pakistan Army that it has established state within state and many other things against Pakistan Army.

And the material it has published today against ISI is unbearable and it proves that Dawn Newspaper its channel and many other channels are working against Pakistan. Here is the link what it has written by quoting FOX news. [B]If any interview was published in foreign newspaper against our agency, ISI, it was the responsibility of Dawn to criticize such baseless stories. But since our media is not our media so it published fake story instead of criticizing such concocted story.[/B] Here is the link of that fake story which is published purely to malign our security agencies:

[URL="http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=11_09_2012_014_004"]http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=11_09_2012_014_004[/URL][/QUOTE]

Here is output of army.
Three wars and we lost all three. We lost East Pakistan.
Does Army follow Ethics? Army supported Dictators and they are also dictators. If they defend they do their duty and get pay for it they are not exception. Where was ISI and Army when US marine raided on OBL compound. Dawn is good newspaper they publish good material.

[QUOTE=ghulammujtaba86;477948]Here is output of army.
Three wars and we lost all three. We lost East Pakistan.
Does Army follow Ethics? Army supported Dictators and they are also dictators. If they defend they do their duty and get pay for it they are not exception. Where was ISI and Army when US marine raided on OBL compound. Dawn is good newspaper they publish good material.[/QUOTE]

Would that you had read the history properly. Ask from UNO, who went there in 1948 and begged them to ask Pakistan Army to stop the war. It was India. If India had not begged through UNO, Pakistan Army would have occupied whole India including Kashmir. It had already conquered some part of Kashmir which became the part of Pakistan

Same thing happened in 1965 when Pakistani forces wrote a new chapter of history. The enemy had thought that it would soon occupy Lahore but was responded in the same way and defeated badly. A single Air force pilot made a world record by destroying 6 war jets of India. It was again India who contacted Super Powers to intervene and stop the war. On the contrary, Pakistan Army had started occupying territory of India.

In 1971 Pakistani forces did not want to kill their on Muslim brothers and hence, they let the creation of another Muslim country, Bangladesh.

As far as Marshall Laws are concerned, Pakistan Army never wanted to intervene in the affairs of government. But it was the public opinion which compelled Pakistan Army to intervene. Just like now, majority people of Pakistan want Army to take over the regime to kick out Corrupt and US-PRO politicians.

As I mentioned earlier that Osama was just a character and reason for US to attack on Muslim courtiers. You will soon hear that He was died just after 9/11.

People like you should not live in Pakistan. Because you people are Traitor. You will soon be kicked out InshAllah.

[QUOTE=Kainatkhan;477986]Would that you had read the history properly. Ask from UNO, who went there in 1948 and begged them to ask Pakistan Army to stop the war. It was India. If India had not begged through UNO, Pakistan Army would have occupied whole India including Kashmir. It had already conquered some part of Kashmir which became the part of Pakistan

Same thing happened in 1965 when Pakistani forces wrote a new chapter of history. The enemy had thought that it would soon occupy Lahore but was responded in the same way and defeated badly. A single Air force pilot made a world record by destroying 6 war jets of India. It was again India who contacted Super Powers to intervene and stop the war. On the contrary, Pakistan Army had started occupying territory of India.

In 1971 Pakistani forces did not want to kill their on Muslim brothers and hence, they let the creation of another Muslim country, Bangladesh.

As far as Marshall Laws are concerned, Pakistan Army never wanted to intervene in the affairs of government. But it was the public opinion which compelled Pakistan Army to intervene. Just like now, majority people of Pakistan want Army to take over the regime to kick out Corrupt and US-PRO politicians.

As I mentioned earlier that Osama was just a character and reason for US to attack on Muslim courtiers. You will soon hear that He was died just after 9/11.

[B]People like you should not live in Pakistan. Because you people are Traitor. You will soon be kicked out InshAllah.[/B][/QUOTE]

Watch your words.I believe he doesn't need your certificate of patriotism.Unfortunately we have still some people like you who call others traitors just because of difference of opinion.You have very right to describe your opinion but you have no right to impose your opinion on others.
By the way,This isn't a place to request ISI to take against Dawn Newspapers.Write a letter to DG ISI,and request him for a meeting,I'm sure he 'll listen to you as you are his biggest ASSET.

[QUOTE=Kainatkhan;477986]Would that you had read the history properly. Ask from UNO, who went there in 1948 and begged them to ask Pakistan Army to stop the war. It was India. If India had not begged through UNO, Pakistan Army would have occupied whole India including Kashmir. It had already conquered some part of Kashmir which became the part of Pakistan

Same thing happened in 1965 when Pakistani forces wrote a new chapter of history. The enemy had thought that it would soon occupy Lahore but was responded in the same way and defeated badly. A single Air force pilot made a world record by destroying 6 war jets of India. It was again India who contacted Super Powers to intervene and stop the war. On the contrary, Pakistan Army had started occupying territory of India.

In 1971 Pakistani forces did not want to kill their on Muslim brothers and hence, they let the creation of another Muslim country, Bangladesh.

As far as Marshall Laws are concerned, Pakistan Army never wanted to intervene in the affairs of government. But it was the public opinion which compelled Pakistan Army to intervene. Just like now, majority people of Pakistan want Army to take over the regime to kick out Corrupt and US-PRO politicians.

As I mentioned earlier that Osama was just a character and reason for US to attack on Muslim courtiers. You will soon hear that He was died just after 9/11.

People like you should not live in Pakistan. Because you people are Traitor. You will soon be kicked out InshAllah.[/QUOTE]

Be mature and learn to face reality , but reality is bitter you are not able to digest.

I'm from Mohmand Agency. ISI should take action against ISI as we consider it as an agency whose up against its own people. We are sandwiched between Taliban and ISI. Also ISI consider all militants as their strategic assets. Read. Read and Read. Thank you Dawn for highlighting our miseries.

All fellows! situation of Politics in pakistan is quite messy and its always been. Its not Army as an institution that intervened in political system but Individuals with ambitious intentions. same on the other hand, its not the army as an institution always who won wars but the Kashmiri people also fought in 1948...Also its Ayub khan wo coup, not army, its musharraf who derailed democracy not army desite of opposition from high ranks. so we should understand that its individuals who are sold out not the whole institution. After 65 years, we just blame ARMY. situation is diferrent in different decades. May 2 attack, do u think was wdout Army's approval? Kiyani is soldout guy who is supporting America's Built Democracy. So dont degrade institutions...

Media is totally sold out, its out of debate. otherwise such standard of stupid thing is not expected from Dawn. their reference of authenticity is whats published in Time or aired on Fox or NBC...sheer stupidity...


Brother from Mehmand! dear i hope you are better aware of American led TTP, who blow Masjids, Bazars, funerals etc. Real taliban and Haqqani network denounce such hedious acts...please understand the politics...

AoA

Dear Kainat Khan, or whatsoever is your name, you better try to increase your ambit of knowledge by studying out quality books and references both with regard to the true Islamic injunctions as well as the spirit behind creation of Pakistan, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

You put a topic for discussion and intrinsically it was required to be taken in different meaning/angle by different forum members, and the same was done. Nevertheless, your replies not only negates the essence of discussion but also of being a gentleman. You are nobody to outrightly declare some person traitor or anti Pakistan. Ghulammujtaba's views are, to greater extent, near to reality, even if at all the comments would have been unjustified, he should had been replied in decent and appropriate way.

Wake up, we have already lost more than 60000 innocent lifes for this extremism and on the name of certain slogans...

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Regards