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Roshnain Swati Wednesday, May 28, 2014 07:26 PM

Marking of CSS papers-fair or random??
 
I would like to start a new discussion here and would invite all those who have already taken the exam to share with us their experiences.

In Matric and FSC or at higher level exams in Pakistan, we could predict our marks almost accurately. How is the case of CSS?

I know that our prediction for the essay paper may not be that accurate but marks of other subjects can almost make it clear if the marking has been random or fair. In preci and composition, if one has good command over the language, 45 marks can be achieved by solving correctly all the MCQs type questions. If one has correctly solved all the 50MCQs of EDS, he can easily expect 50+ marks-- My query is - have there been totally unexpected instances like one getting 40/50MCQs right in EDS and still failing it etc ?

The point is to seek responses on whether the marking is as per the quality of the paper solved or just random. ? Responses will be highly appreciated please.

Buddha Wednesday, May 28, 2014 07:30 PM

Marking is strict but of course not random

Kamran Chaudhary Wednesday, May 28, 2014 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=Roshnain Swati;724199]I would like to start a new discussion here and would invite all those who have already taken the exam to share with us their experiences.

In Matric and FSC or at higher level exams in Pakistan, we could predict our marks almost accurately. How is the case of CSS?

I know that our prediction for the essay paper may not be that accurate but marks of other subjects can almost make it clear if the marking has been random or fair. In preci and composition, if one has good command over the language, 45 marks can be achieved by solving correctly all the MCQs type questions. If one has correctly solved all the 50MCQs of EDS, he can easily expect 50+ marks-- My query is - have there been totally unexpected instances like one getting 40/50MCQs right in EDS and still failing it etc ?

The point is to seek responses on whether the marking is as per the quality of the paper solved or just random. ? Responses will be highly appreciated please.[/QUOTE]

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Ikhan Wednesday, May 28, 2014 07:53 PM

My ExpieriIence
 
Well, I may be wrong but according to my understanding LUCK is an important factor of the whole exam. Though i am not abjuring hardwork. Also it largely revolves around the checker and ofcourse his mood ( after all he is human) Subjectivity comes in the process...Lucky are the ones who arent affected by it.
Obviously they cannot mark a right answer wrong but they wont be generous if their ideas aren't congruent to yours...(Hardwork is rewarded but Luck ensures you Success)
For Essay its the discretion of the checker...Alots of guys have cleared essays in first attempt didn't cleared it in second...A guy who cleared essay in Css failed the same essay as he reproduced it in PMS exam.....I am saying that there are so many missing links in the process...
Well this just an opinion other may disagree

husseych Wednesday, May 28, 2014 07:53 PM

I am about to start the thread on the same topic after reading DMC of failed candidates 2013 thread.

Seniors,moderators and Passed CE candidates are requested to shed some light on this topic. As many people claim that marking is totally biased/random :confused:. Please explain your experiences here. As one can work hard/smart if there is strict marking, but with biased or random marking, young aspirants like me may become demotivated :mad:

waqas izhar Wednesday, May 28, 2014 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=Buddha;724203]Marking is strict but of course not random[/QUOTE]


but i would add that it is subjective. depends upon who is the checker in a particular year. examiners and their standards vary from teachers to teachers.
i think that is what plays the luck factor.

but if it is not random it is good news. question is how it is not random?

regards

[QUOTE=Ikhan;724211]Well, I may be wrong but according to my understanding LUCK is an important factor of the whole exam. Though i am not abjuring hardwork. Also it largely revolves around the checker and ofcourse his mood ( after all he is human) Subjectivity comes in the process...Lucky are the ones who arent affected by it.
Obviously they cannot mark a right answer wrong but they wont be generous if their ideas aren't congruent to yours...(Hardwork is rewarded but Luck ensures you Success)
For Essay its the discretion of the checker...Alots of guys have cleared essays in first attempt didn't cleared it in second...A guy who cleared essay in Css failed the same essay as he reproduced it in PMS exam.....I am saying that there are so many missing links in the process...
Well this just an opinion other may disagree[/QUOTE]

must add to it personal error factor. you might think that you have done good but you might not have in fact.

Ikhan Wednesday, May 28, 2014 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=waqas izhar;724217]must add to it personal error factor. you might think that you have done good but you might not have in fact.[/QUOTE]

Obviously personal shortcomings count...But its where i attempted below average and i got unbelievable marks...For example I have literally less 4 hrs of study for Pashto...I wrote pashto first time in the Exam hall neither had i studied it in school or college...i was scared that i might fail in it and was angry at those who suggested me to take it as an optional...and Guess what I GOT 66 marks :blink in it....( i am not saying i had a messed up paper but it was below average attempt)

Similarly in Sociology i was expecting 50-60 and i got 70 :clap....
while in public ad i was expecting atleast 60...i was awarded 42 :mad:
I had a superb paper of CA and got 38....
My point is the first attempt made me very confused

Roshnain Swati Wednesday, May 28, 2014 08:16 PM

Thank you for your participation.

Responses from those who have taken the exam can make things more clear. We, who are yet to take sit in the exam, can only guess.

We understand that much depends on the mood and marking style of the examiner and it cant be eradicated, BUT -- My query is if the marking is so random that you correctly solve 40 MCQs in EDS and still fail -- OR -- All your 20 MCQs in CA are right and you are awarded a total marks of 23 i.e. only 3 marks out of 80 for the subjective part...

I am more interested in anomalies here than strict marking.

Buddha Wednesday, May 28, 2014 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=waqas izhar;724215]but i would add that it is subjective. depends upon who is the checker in a particular year. examiners and their standards vary from teachers to teachers.
i think that is what plays the luck factor.

but if it is not random it is good news. question is how it is not random?

regards[/QUOTE]

Well of course luck counts. For example, I'll be lucky when all I prepared happen to be asked in the exam. I cram an essay and that same essay is asked in the exam and I nail it even though I have poor essay writing skills. Luck factor cannot be ruled out. Yeah standards vary examiner to examiner but a bad essay will be penalized no matter who's checking and a good and convincing essay will be given credit. When we sit in a subjective type exam, we are signing up for the risks of getting a subjective evaluation. Looking at the qualifiers, there maybe some lucky ones jin ka bus jugaar lag gaya but most of them are hard-workers.

zeeshan marwat Wednesday, May 28, 2014 09:45 PM

its a big debate that whether checking in CSS is transparent or not..many loop holes can be found in every system,nothing,where human beings are involved, are flawless.here i would say one thing,work hard and do not indulge yourself in such kind of ambiguities.If you do not get the fruit from CSS at the end of the day,remember Allah has kept something better for you,in another field.


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