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You have recommended already.
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I do not recommend Rs 15000 per student per month. Have to find student teachers to kick start the project.
___ Essay & English precis and composition CSS Forums - View Profile: Last Island Can these qualified persons be convinced and therefore give them appropriate tags that identify them with their subjects. Psychology CSS Forums - View Profile: Miss_Naqvi CSS Forums - View Profile: Natiq Economics, Audit and Accounts, Statistics CSS Forums - View Profile: Raz Mathematics (Pure and Applied) CSS Forums - View Profile: Ayesha Mahmood Punjabi, Arabic CSS Forums - View Profile: usman khalid EDS - CSS Forums - View Profile: hhjavaid US History CSS Forums - View Profile: Natiq CSS Forums - View Profile: Abdullah Nayyar Political Science, IR, CL: CSS Forums - View Profile: Abdullah Nayyar Public Administration: CSS Forums - View Profile: maliasghar Computer Science: CSS Forums - View Profile: Asifr If above people are willing these are suggestions are good to start run this project. And after that if aspirants can start posting them anything from the past papers they want correction for. Minimum number of students to offer tutorship = 50 Duration = 02 months (2 hours daily) Pay for two months = 20, 000 Fee one student has to pay = 20, 000 / 50 = Rs 400. means 200 per month per subject. (a good tutor won't reject this offer depending upon the modus operandi which will be:
Now people will say how will they present their material, of course they will have to type their efforts. or scan, or take a clear image. The hired tutor should also be versed at using computer. He would need to check 25 questions daily (most probably half the population will post a question a day). |
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Agreed to LI . There would be discrimination among members, gulf between paid and non paid . Then who care for free guidence. The why LI is there without any fee? I want assessment centre for english. I am worried about english. Second if each student have to pay the same then lumpsome payment for academies revolve around this digit.i have paid lumpsome fee 20,000and how i had paid i knew. But i've gained nthing but a few tips. But this forum without any fee gave me a lot. I am obliged to LI AND Forum members. Members here would and should guide freely. This forum has a lot of tips, treasure of knowlege.LI PLEASE PLEASE AND PLEASE do something for essay and composition. I want to correct myself. Please do something .this forum is my friend and i wl not ready to divide this forum between those who pay and who can not pay.
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I have been on Forum for quite a while and seen it grow into place it is now. Every time i come across the aspirants,knowledge,information tips,notes and most importantly accessibility to all free of cost of the Forum is in the discussion. Hiring tutors might seem like a good idea on the face of it but breaking it down to its feasibility will show the difficulty of handling it.Getting a tutor that has the required credentials in around 5000 is like not possible(they take payment per student not monthly) .And whatever is done in the tutor section will come out and will be injustice to those who are paying(apart from assessment).And there are lot more difficulties,I am not saying its not possible but would be difficult. The very success of Forum is its accessibility to all and without any discrimination and I hope it continues.(like the name of few members are mentioned ,if they are hired ,rest of the member would be deprived of their suggestions and tips) The decision lies with the management after considering its feasibility. |
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Had you agreed to last line of post #22,you would have stopped arguing.
Let me put it bluntly. I agreed to your idea in the very first post because i thought its brilliant but your demands are too ambitious and somewhat impractical. 1)though change is inevitable and positive change should be welcom but turning the whole system upside down cannot be called change.Even if one succeed in achieving change via such practices then it soon turns into a disaster and creates a huge mess.Let change occur gradually. On one side you are belittling the worth of free guidance and notes present in the forum but on the other side you are suggesting those "ordinary" members to be part time teachers. If you are getting free of cost guidance and help from them than what is the point in paying huge fee. LI has rightly mentioned the cost and all the hurdles in the execution of such a vast project. what if they hire so many teachers and just 20 or say 50 students agree to avial the opportunity and each with a different set of subjects,who would pay the tutor's salary.Would you like to pay the salary on behalf of the administration?That's why only official know they have the responsibility and no one would come to rescue them. This sort of projects need a well thought plan and it can take years to implement such things.We can start here with one subject from next year and after seeing the turn around of students,this scheme can be further planned or banned.But compelling the management to do everything Right Now is childish. 2)This scheme is very costly as well.One has to pay at least 25 to 30k per session(safe estimate)if one wants to study all the subjects from best teachers.So it can only prove fruitful to those in a long run who belong to backward areas or those who want to study in the comfort of their homes. 3)Don't give such sweeping statements as who has dard-e-dill and who does not.All members, belonging to any province, are assets of this forum.You should refrain from such biased statements. 4)then who's job is motivation?We do not get motivation by looking at forum for hours.It is the individuals and their efforts which motivate us i.e its members.If you are suggesting some kind of psychologist for this then again it is not possible just in a year. In the end,i would suggest that don't belittle the efforts of all the members which they are doing free of cost.If one pay a little attention to suggestions of seniors and csps than one cannot get wayward from subject and books selection till the interview process. Now you have planted the seed,let it grow on its own.Every decision of administration is for the betterment of this community so let them decide freely.
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Pay for two months as you have set = 20,000 Tutors = 46 Total = 920000 Agar her member 12 papers ki fee pay kerta hai lets suppose, then: 200 x 12 = 2400 x 2 = 4800 x 50 = 240000 Who is going to pay the rest of Rs. 680000?
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jo kaam paisay da kar karwaney ki advice ki ja rahee hai meri nazar ma wo already ho raha hai css forum pa aik had tak,agar ghoor kiya jaey to.
As is once said that css forum ALLAH ka naam la kar shoro kiya geya tha aspirants ki help k liye kiu k ye feel kiya ja raha tha k people dont have much awareness about css to agar ab paisay involve kiye jain gey is forum pa to meri nazar ma this will be against the very spirit of the existence of css forum.there shall be no discrimination towards the members with respect to the services provided by css forum. baqi agar koi paisay da kar apna kaam check karwana chahta hai to is k liye academies pehlay sa maujood hain.agar paisay denay hain to phir css forum kiu join karey koi?academies chaley jatey hain hum loog wahan par face to face teachers sa guidance lain gey.(Though the purpose of joining this forum is not just guidance.i just enjoy the company) However it is nice to see that someone came up with a new idea which is really encouraging.
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By doing this, at least a formal tradition will be set. As for 'will they agree to it?', I think yes. Most of the CSPs who have had good time here, will want to payback, speaking morally. (Some even would wish moderatorship!) Ask them. Theory says it, they should be obliged. For it is a noble cause, and they are noble people. Below all, it is going to be a humble beginning. And to be frank, I do not see myself enjoying the fruit of it much (I know how to get help). People following will. This project would take three years, to rise to maturity, and the reason why folks are saying it is not feasible. Quote:
But the tendency of nowadays aspirants this is 'I want somebody to make sentences for me', 'somebody give me past solved papers, and when I'll fail I will be back as a demagogue, because I have a lot of distorted facts from academies, fellows, and hearsay from examination hall too, irresponsibility; flooding threads because I do not make efforts; this compels me to feel important; my job is to post songs'. Quote:
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@ roijen
i just want to ask a small question.
If whenever you post a solved precis or have written an essay and ask the members to check it have you ever not gotten a response? In my personal opinion having a tutor on forum would restrict the checking, way of writing essay etc to just one person and we would not get the comments from various members which is always good i.e, getting various types of comments on your writing is always good. in a very short time it improves our writing which otherwise would take some time. agreed?
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