LLM or LLB - Page 2

HAMID SALEH LAK · #11 Friday, July 06, 2012

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Originally Posted by MAA_LLM

Its a degree equivalent to M.Phil. So you can do LLD after that, i.e. Phd in Law.
Also you can apply, as I described in my earlier post, for number of jobs that require LLM.
etc etc.

dear what is different between lawyer and barrister and what is qualification of both
is barrister has any advantage over lawyer
also mention some institutes in pakistan which are producing best llb and barrister
and also their fee structure
thanks in advance
alllah bless u

MAA_LLM · #12 Saturday, July 07, 2012

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Originally Posted by HAMID SALEH LAK

dear what is different between lawyer and barrister and what is qualification of both
is barrister has any advantage over lawyer
also mention some institutes in pakistan which are producing best llb and barrister
and also their fee structure
thanks in advance
alllah bless u

First of all Dear Br, Thanks for the prayer, and in the beginning I would like to point at a very Important mistake you committed ( I hope unintentionally) that you wrote name of Allah SWT with small letter 'A'. please remember that Alllah SWT's name is always written with capital 'A'. I hope you will take care of this in future. In Sha Allah.

Now as about your query, dear Br, Bar at Law is an advance degree after LLB, but it is different from LLM, because Bar at Law focuses on the practical aspects of the law, where as LLM is educational or research oriented degree, which usually does not give much importance to practical side of law.
However, as (as far as I know) Bar at Law is offered in England only, or primarily in England, so many law graduates don't persue it being highly costly and abroad. While LLM though it is also offered in England, but fortunately now it is ofered by many universities of the world, including many in Pakistan. So, we see more LLM students than Barristers... !
Now as about qualification, both Bar at Law and LLM are done after LLB/LLB (Hons.).

About any advantage of Barrister over Lawyer, yes, Barristers are considered more knowledgeable and competent than mere lawyers. (But it is not a hard and fast rule, a simple lawyer with his hard-work and knowledge, may bypass a dull barrister).

About institutes that are offering quality education in Law in Pakistan, dear as far as I know there is no in Bar at Law course or study in Pakistan, (for bar at Law you have to go abroad, unless there are some distant learning education in some foreign/private institutions, but there are very remote chances of that till now, that is what I think) but I can tell you about some prominent education instititutes that offer LLB and LLM in Pakistan, specially in Public Sector. Punjab University is offering LLB and LLM (General) and being pioneer institute in Punjab, it is considered quite good. Then there is International Islamic University, Islamabad, which offer LLB, LLB Hons Shariah and Law, LLM in various fields. That too is a good institution. Further Karachi University and another institution is in Karachi in addition to Peshawar University which offers Law programs. But this list is not exhaustive, and there are many other private institutions as well that offer Law, some are even linked with British Universities. So there are many options.

And About fee, dear I cannot tell you exactly about that, you can find it on their respective websites or by visiting their offices.
Hope this will be helpful.
Regards.
May Allah SWT Bless, Help, Protect, Guide, and Forgive us all and our Families. Ameen

Farrukh Aziz · #13 Sunday, July 08, 2012

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Originally Posted by MAA_LLM

First of all Dear Br, Thanks for the prayer, and in the beginning I would like to point at a very Important mistake you committed ( I hope unintentionally) that you wrote name of Allah SWT with small letter 'A'. please remember that Alllah SWT's name is always written with capital 'A'. I hope you will take care of this in future. In Sha Allah.

Now as about your query, dear Br, Bar at Law is an advance degree after LLB, but it is different from LLM, because Bar at Law focuses on the practical aspects of the law, where as LLM is educational or research oriented degree, which usually does not give much importance to practical side of law.
However, as (as far as I know) Bar at Law is offered in England only, or primarily in England, so many law graduates don't persue it being highly costly and abroad. While LLM though it is also offered in England, but fortunately now it is ofered by many universities of the world, including many in Pakistan. So, we see more LLM students than Barristers... !
Now as about qualification, both Bar at Law and LLM are done after LLB/LLB (Hons.).

About any advantage of Barrister over Lawyer, yes, Barristers are considered more knowledgeable and competent than mere lawyers. (But it is not a hard and fast rule, a simple lawyer with his hard-work and knowledge, may bypass a dull barrister).

About institutes that are offering quality education in Law in Pakistan, dear as far as I know there is no in Bar at Law course or study in Pakistan, (for bar at Law you have to go abroad, unless there are some distant learning education in some foreign/private institutions, but there are very remote chances of that till now, that is what I think) but I can tell you about some prominent education instititutes that offer LLB and LLM in Pakistan, specially in Public Sector. Punjab University is offering LLB and LLM (General) and being pioneer institute in Punjab, it is considered quite good. Then there is International Islamic University, Islamabad, which offer LLB, LLB Hons Shariah and Law, LLM in various fields. That too is a good institution. Further Karachi University and another institution is in Karachi in addition to Peshawar University which offers Law programs. But this list is not exhaustive, and there are many other private institutions as well that offer Law, some are even linked with British Universities. So there are many options.

And About fee, dear I cannot tell you exactly about that, you can find it on their respective websites or by visiting their offices.
Hope this will be helpful.
Regards.
May Allah SWT Bless, Help, Protect, Guide, and Forgive us all and our Families. Ameen

Dear I want to ask you a very burning question that is haunting me for a long time "Can a law graduate who is doing his/her css preparation, delay his/her 6 months practice because of CSS preparation? Or besides CSS preparation if he can practise law." Hoping for prompt reply. Regards

rover_commando · #14 Thursday, July 12, 2012

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Dear kindly tell me whether it is a substitute for "six months practice under the supervision of a lawyer" And dear I am not an LLB but B.A. I have made my mind to do law after the completion of b.a.Because it will help me in two directions ,i.e. CSS optionals and Backup protection.

Yes brother it is a substitute of pupillage. After LL.M you can directly get enrolled with a bar council or as an advocate of lower courts.

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Originally Posted by HAMID SALEH LAK

dear what is different between lawyer and barrister and what is qualification of both
is barrister has any advantage over lawyer
also mention some institutes in pakistan which are producing best llb and barrister
and also their fee structure
thanks in advance
alllah bless u

Well, to become a barrister, one has to go through 2 stages. 1st academic and completing which you become eligible for enrollment in one of 4 inns.

Stage 1.
. Bar Professional Training Course (BPTC)
Entry requirements are a recognized UK degree in law or for foreign LL.B degree holder students a Graduate Diploma in Law (GDL).

Stage 2.
. Pupillage or training stage
A person who intends to practise as a barrister is required to train as a pupil for a period of not less than twelve months.

angeladvocate · #15 Tuesday, September 04, 2012

Salam,in what subjects you can go for in LLD? Can you kindly tell me the details of LLD.thankyou

parishey · #16 Tuesday, September 04, 2012

@ Farrukh Aziz u can practice in fact most law graduates dont practice in real , talk to any senior lawyer and after 6 months ask him to help to prepare your file for licence. this is the case if you are not willing to practice but if you are intended to make Law your profession than u have to do real practice i.e, involving yourself in litigation

rover_commando · #17 Wednesday, September 05, 2012

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Originally Posted by angeladvocate

Salam,in what subjects you can go for in LLD? Can you kindly tell me the details of LLD.thankyou

Depends upon the university.
Mostly,
. Human Rights
. Corporate Law
. Shariah
in our country

PACIFIC · #18 Thursday, November 15, 2012

Dear, LLM can be supportive/ beneficial when u go ahead for a job ..
otherwise LLB is sufficient for practice....

Jahangeer khan · #19 Sunday, January 27, 2013

i have completed my llb recently, i was also thinking the same....

In Shaa Allah from next year i would start LLM

PACIFIC · #20 Friday, February 01, 2013

Inshallah Dear

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