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Please do not be annoyed at the comments of ash because already too much has happened in this forum also the level of stress people are facing.So i suggest you should ignore.
One important question ash is asking WHEN the letters are issued?

janta baitab hay huzoor!
Sir I cannot understand what you guys want from me now. You ask me to tell you information and when I speak, you say I am bluffing. When you think I am bluffing, there you go and ask again. Thats not good. Ask yourself what do want from a bluffer
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Sir I cannot understand what you guys want from me now. You ask me to tell you information and when I speak, you say I am bluffing. When you think I am bluffing, there you go and ask again. Thats not good. Ask yourself what do want from a bluffer
Well I never said that you are bluffing.what I said was the level of confidentiality that is kept in my organization.Still does nt matter if you don't want to tell. Cat will be out of sack soon.just wanted to restore you self esteem as senior member.
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This is very happy news...

National Assembly set to lag on accountability law


http://dawn.com/2012/10/12/national-...ntability-law/

ISLAMABAD: With only a day left of its current session, the National Assembly appeared on Thursday to be facing a lag on a new accountability law for holders of public office despite earlier government plans for a quick work.


As it became clear the National Accountability Commission Bill introduced three days ago would not come before the present session ending on Friday because the house standing committee on law and justice failed to complete the scrutiny of the 48-clause draft before adjourning until Oct 18, opposition leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan threatened from outside the chamber that the PML-N would “strongly react” to any bulldozing.


On a request from Law and Justice Minister Farooq H. Naek while introducing the bill on Monday, Deputy Speaker Faisal Karim Kundi had directed the standing committee, dominated by the ruling Pakistan People’s Party and its allies, to submit its report “as soon as possible”, giving rise to speculations that the bill could be rushed through the house as early as Thursday or before its scheduled prorogation.


But such a quick march after a three-year hold-up of a discarded previous accountability bill was ruled out by the standing committee’s adjournment when it appeared bogged down on some controversial clauses and another session of the lower house seemed unlikely this month because many parliamentarians would be away in Saudi Arabia for Haj due in the last week of the month.


As the bill was missing from its Thursday’s agenda, the house was left with some low-key business, including the passage of an official bill empowering the federal capital to make new entries of punishable traffic violations into the existing law.


Before adjourning until 10am on Friday, the house also passed two resolutions calling for an effective monitoring of the polio vaccination campaign and voicing a “serious concern” over what it called “growing trends of obscenity and indecency” in the electronic media and “unchecked flow of blasphemous and vulgar material” through the Internet.


While the previous Public Office (Accountability) Bill introduced in 2009, which too provided for an independent accountability commission to replace the present National Accountability Bureau functioning under a Musharraf-era decree, was discarded after hanging fire for three years because of the standing committee’s failure to reach a government-sought consensus, the new draft is touted by the government as one designed to remove controversies on issues like qualifications for the commission chairman and the start of the time for its applicability.


The new bill provides for consultation between the prime minister and the leader of opposition in the National Assembly and a complicated procedure for the standing committee’s approval of the appointment of the chairman, who must be either a former Supreme Court judge or a former Grade 22 federal government official, and for the enforcement of the law from Oct 1, 2002.


But Chaudhry Nisar, in a statement issued by his office, urged the media and members of the civil society to raise their voice against what he called “travesty of justice and daylight robbery” that he said was taking place through the new draft.


“The PML-N will strongly react to the bulldozing of the bill as is currently being done in the standing committee on law and justice,” he said, adding that such an enactment “will give a free hand to the looters and plunderers of the national wealth”.


“Never in the history of any civilised and democratic parliament of the world has a similar law been introduced, the basic purpose of which is to give a free hand to those who squandered and plundered public money,” he said without specifying the objectionable clauses.


SNAKE-CHARMERS FOR VACCINE: In some lighter moments of the day, Bushra Rahman, a poetess and member of the government-allied Pakistan Muslim League-Q, suggested employing snake-charmers to cure snake-bites if government hospitals in Islamabad lacked anti-venom vaccine.


Minister for Capital Administration and Development Nazar Mohammad Gondal, responding to a call-attention notice, denied any vaccine shortage, Ms Rehman, one of the five movers of the notice, said although she would not doubt the minister’s statement, the authorities should consider employing some “saperas” to treat snake-bites if there was really a shortage of vaccine.


Mr Gondal insisted that a newspaper report about vaccine shortages was wrong, but told the PML-N member: “Send them if some saperas are out of job.”
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I am from Balochistan as well, those I know who are Balochistan domiciled have not called for interview yet, but it is expected soon.
some people here have received call for submission of documents but none has received call for interview in Balochistan.

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Are we still living in 20th Century?

Come on, look arround us, you will seen things are changed. Perhaps the only thing that has thrived in Pakistan is Communication. When the state of the art technologies have changed the means of transportation of voices and gestures do I still beleive that Fax still exist as if an FX car exist and that with a high calibre office?

Sorry to say but, should I say "Pakistan hey, kutchh bhee baeeed naheeen!"

Let us see!
FAX Machines are still used in all the offices through out Pakistan, even in Banks, which are considered the most advance in technology, budget and equipment.
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Following comments from PILDAT on New Bill will help somewhat to compare both bills [NAO&NAC], also helpful for Interview:


The Pakistan Institute of Legislative Development and Transparency (PILDAT) has termed the new accountability bill, introduced by the PPP government at the end of its 5-year term, as too little, too late.
In an analysis, PILDAT has also asked that the government should allow debate in the National Assembly and the Senate and, in parallel, in the society, before this law is passed.
Where the government has waited for 3.5 years, it can also wait further for 2 to 3 months to allow debate on the law and improve it in the light of the debate. The government should not steamroll the issue through the Parliament.
Comparing the NAC 2012 to National Accountability Ordinance of 1999, PILDAT believes that the draft NAC 2012 is not an improvement but it aims to shrink the space of accountability as provided under the 1999 Accountability Ordinance. If passed by the Parliament in its current shape, the law will be a sad commentary on the political process and its inability to put in place an effective, objective and across-the-board accountability mechanism in nearly 5 years since 2008. The ruling PPP and the PML-N had pledged under the Charter of Democracy (CoD) of May 2006 to replace what they termed as “politically motivated” National Accountability Bureau (NAB) by a consensus-based Accountability Commission.
Analysing various clauses, PILDAT has said that the mode of appointment of the Chairman tilts in the favour of the ruling government. In case the leader of the opposition and prime minister do not agree on a person in 15 days, they have to, in 10 days, forward 2 names each to the National Assembly Standing Committee on Law for confirmation of any 1 person. In view of the fact that the National Assembly Standing Committee on Law and Justice will always have the majority of the ruling party/coalition, the nominee of the ruling party / coalition will stand a much better chance of selection. It would have been better to refer the question to a special committee having equal representation of both the ruling party/ coalition and the opposition. It will be even better if the proposed committee has representation both from the National Assembly and the Senate as is the case for the Committee charged to select the chief election commissioner and members of the Election Commission.
The most controversial clause of this bill is related to the commencement of this law from October 01, 2002. If passed, this would effectively provide immunity to all corrupt persons and corruption that occurred before this date as these shall never be investigated or prosecuted under the accountability laws in Pakistan. The NAO 2009 had set the commencement period at 1985-onwards.
The NAC 2012 mandates that the Accountability Commission shall not inquire or investigate into any complaint if it is made after the expiry of a period of ten years from the date on which the offence mentioned in such complaint is alleged to have been committed. The NAO 1999 does not contain any such limitation on the period after which a prosecution can not be initiated in respect of corruption. Not only the 10-year limitation period is politically and socially unacceptable in Pakistan as it should be set at all past and present acts of corruption, it also violates the UN Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC) which Pakistan has ratified and which asks for a long limitation period.
PILDAT analyses that even though the NAC 2012 provides for an independent investigation agency, the investigation powers under the NAC 2012 have been reduced from that of NAB.
PILDAT believes that the National Accountability Commission Bill, 2012 requires a serious review by public representatives to enact a system of objective and across-the-board accountability in Pakistan. Legislators must also ensure compliance with Pakistan’s international obligations and international best practices before passage of the draft law. Following are some of the key recommendations of PILDAT to legislators:
1. The commencement clause should be re-visited. An effective accountability mechanism requires that the laws cover all past and present corruption. No effective date should be mentioned in the bill
2. There should be no limitation on the period after which a prosecution can not be initiated in respect of corruption
3. The definition of corruption should be broader and precise in line with Pakistan’s UNCAC obligations. Wilful default, offence of cheating, criminal breach of trust, offence of abetment, etc., included under the NAO 1999, should also be covered under the NAC 2012
4. Private sector should also be included in the ambit of the law
5. The mode of appointment of the chairman tilts in the favour of the government and must be amended through providing for a special committee having equal representation of both the ruling party / coalition and the opposition and representation both from the National Assembly and the Senate as is the case for the Committee charged to select the Chief Election Commissioner and members of the Election Commission
6. Definition of assets should also include benami as under the NAO 1999
7. The scope of asset freezing should be broader including the assets abroad
8. Sufficient investigating powers should be given to the Agency including the power to arrest during the investigations
9. Witness protection should be included in the bill
10. The banking laws should be modified to allow for proper investigations
11. The issue of plea bargain and tender of pardon should be re-examined and be included in the bill
12. The penalties for corruption offences should be stricter including a ban for longer duration on holding public office as mentioned in the NAO at least for 10 years
13. There should be a disqualification for public office holders in case of pre-trial voluntary return as well.
At the heart of the anti-corruption effort is the need to create an investigation and prosecution agency which is impervious to political influence of the government of the day or any type of influence from any quarter. Such an agency should continue with its accountability mission irrespective of who and which party is in power and no matter how powerful and well-connected the accused persons are. It is equally important that the accountability mechanism should not become an instrument of victimization against political opponents, the manner in which the NAB was used during the period of General Pervez Musharraf, PILDAT said.
The sustainability of democracy in Pakistan is closely and directly related to the existence of such an independent accountability mechanism. Corruption was used as a key argument for the dismissal of at least 6 governments in the past 30 years in Pakistan. Providing a credible accountability mechanism will rob any future adventurer of the pretext of corruption to disrupt democracy. Pakistan, as a signatory to United Nations Convention against Corruption (UNCAC) has international obligations, too, to move effectively and speedily for the establishment of a Credible Anti-Corruption mechanism.
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FAX Machines are still used in all the offices through out Pakistan, even in Banks, which are considered the most advance in technology, budget and equipment.

Everyone I think knows that fax machines are still operative.

I have learnt that only 90 guys have been short listed for total 56 posts of JIO, AD and DD for Sindh. It means 34 will be rejected and 56 out of 90 will be selected, and you know never, may be they have increased the number of seasts .
I can not understand this formula.
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Mnaqi Bhai plz tell me the formula that u knw...
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how are you guys doing for interview now?
@Mnaqi, dear you already have interview experience with NAB, were you selected? What quality would be the most important in a candidate from interviewer's point of view? What and how to prepare?

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For Sindh, the number JIO posts is almost double than AD, and posts of AD and DD are 25 while alone JIO are 31. As such, I reckon ADs and DDs interviews will be on same date. I do not know which catagory will go first.
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@Mnaqi, dear you already have interview experience with NAB, were you selected? What quality would be the most important in a candidate from interviewer's point of view? What and how to prepare?

Thanks in advance.
Interveiws will be easy and you got to be straightforward and speak good english, you will be selected. Of course your success does not unduly rely on your fluent english, you have to talk that makes sense, and yes you have to first listen them completely and then go on to answer. When you answer a question, you have to address everybody, not only the member that asks you a particular question. Remember, there will be no discussion on foreign policy matters or political situation, nor your general knowledge. Only there will be a talk on corruption and crime, besides the details about YOU. If you are from Sindh and you are going for AD, I will see you in the waiting hall of NAB Sindh.
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