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All the best to all ......have trust in allah ......dont engage in futile activities........process is totally merit based ...
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heart winning response .. I appreciate brother....sorry for bit sarcastic remarks but you understand assignments demand so... well, it is advised that all process is purely merit-based.... think for a moment if Nab calls 3 candidates for 1 seat . then each one of them would have influenced ...and those at back could have got a lead..it is all being done to protect meritorious students.....those who have not received the call is due to their failure in psychological test and low score ......it's going to be purely merit based....
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No problem in calling exact number of candidates according to seats available. But it should have been convincing. No one knows how they are deciding the toppers of list. I know psycho test would have eliminated many but they must publish it one their web how merit will be decided.

for example:
Merit will be according to following formula:
Written Marks weightage: 30%
Academics: 20%
Experience: 20%
Interview: 30%

No one will have thought of going to court if such procedure was adopted. And even court will not accept cases against such an open criteria.
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The National Assembly's Standing Committee on Law and Justice has postponed its meeting over Accountability Bill 2012 till October 23, Geo News reported Wednesday.

Talking to media persons here Khursheed Shah, the Minister for Religious Affairs and the member of the above committee said, the meeting had to be put off till October 23 owing to the ongoing consultation with the opposition.

He said Naveed Qamar was holding talks with the opposition over the proposed draft of the Accountability Bill 2012.

Khursheed Shah said both Pakistan People's Party and Pakistan Muslim League-N have had their accountability carried out.

In the new Accountability Bill, the era of Pervez Mushrraf's rule as well as PPP's existing one have been presented for accountability.
Again procrastination and believe me, in the end it will be approved as it is. b/w what are the concerns of opposition with this bill????

one more thing: i got 78 for JIO so could you check my name as well??? and also what is the expected time frame for interview as i have to take ISSB from 1st to 4th of Nov...
@ SA Haider: jani dil jeet lya...the matter is We Need Transperency from president house to Municipal committee...i second your concern...
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If your views are asked about this bill in the interview, then what will be your answer?
The new accountability bill is full of defects.... the previous NAO 1999 though introduced by a dictator for his interest is far much better than the new proposed one..... that dictator has gone..... so no interest NAO 1999 is serving of him now..... fact of the matter is it is against the interest of political parties that is why they want to change into a weak law.....

I have gone through number of studies about NAO 1999 and it is one of the most independent and strongest law against corrupts in the history of Pakistan.

The very first point which make the new law weak is about the appointment of Chairman.....Institution is strong when it is headed by an Independent and impartial member...... The institutions of army and now also higher judiciary are strong only because of they are headed by independent heads..... But when it is at the sole discretion of Prime minister to appoint or dispel Chairman of NAB that means the whole new accountability organization will work according to rules of ruling party...... so there will be more chances of political victimization in that case...

There are already two agencies of FIA and Anti Corruption Establishment working against corruption they are not successful only because of political and executive interference in it. Pakistan Penal Code 1860 (sections 160-165), Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA) 1947 are already there but they fail to achieve their targets. A new law similar to them is going to be made in the form of National Accountability Commission Act.
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Again procrastination and believe me, in the end it will be approved as it is. b/w what are the concerns of opposition with this bill????

one more thing: i got 78 for JIO so could you check my name as well??? and also what is the expected time frame for interview as i have to take ISSB from 1st to 4th of Nov...
@ SA Haider: jani dil jeet lya...the matter is We Need Transperency from president house to Municipal committee...i second your concern...
Interviews for Punjab are expected to start from 1st November....
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Well if they are not satisfied after knowing all the process, they can`t even go to court even. That`s the point. If NAB is doing its job fair, then is there any harm in making it public? So that all those criticizing can shut up.

If NAB makes its criteria public, then no petition will be accepted by any court.
So you want NAB to publish the result of the psychological test? Yeah, there is no harm in having the list published but please remind me what purpose that would serve other than occupy space on NAB's website. Allow me to explain. If NAB does publish a list, it will be either of the two:

1. It publishes two lists. The first list is of those people who passed the psychological test and the other of those who failed; or

2. It publishes a single list of all the candidates who appeared in the psychological test and adds "pass" or "fail" next to their respective names.

Now tell me what would be the purpose here. So, I take it that what you're actually demanding for is that NAB provides you the reasons for choosing one while rejecting the other. Correct? This means that you're asking NAB's recruitment department to detail each and every reason for their decision. Let me try to explain myself by means of an example:

"A person called Z appeared in the psychological test. If you recall, the test considered of sentence completion, writing stories, word linking and filling a questionnaire. Z took the test and did everything as he was told. Now his paper comes for assessment before the expert team of NAB for determination as to whether Z is to be selected or rejected. Now the team goes through Z's paper and conclude that his answers indicate that he is not suitable for the post. NAB does not inform Z of his failure. If they do inform him, of course, Z would want to know how he is not suitable. This would mean that the team would have to type out everything which, in their opinion, made Z unfit for the job. Z may also want to know if NAB found any of his answers acceptable or not."

Z is just one fictitious person. Imagine if NAB has to do it for every single person who appeared in the psychological test. It would have to give reasons for every single person. Of course, everyone is interested in his/her own result. There would be a huge problem if NAB only published the list of successful candidates. But, if it published a list showing the names of those candidates whom it rejected along with the reasons for their respective rejections, don't you think these candidates would be interested in knowing what the answers of the passed candidates were and the reasons as to why NAB found them fit for the job? Think about how much further this would delay the recruitment process. Do you think NAB has time for this? This process has already taken 10 or 11 months. Further, you can speak all you want for yourself that you'd be satisfied if NAB provides reasons but the majority of people would not be happy... and once they start making comparisons of their answers with a candidate who has passed, they will start questioning the reasoning of the team who examined the psychological test papers. Now these unhappy candidates decide to go for litigation... meaning that NAB has no discretion of its own to decide whom it finds suitable or unsuitable and the court is the psychological expert now, correct?

Taking this a bit further, I have found a mindset prevalent here which is relying too much on the marks of the written test while ignoring the importance of the psychological test, previous academic record, work experiences, etc. They are forgetting that NAB rejected or selected a person based on taking all of the above in consideration. Re-read the conditions mentioned in their advertisement.

This particular bit is not directed towards you but someone else who mentioned that NAB ought to have provided the answer key of the psychological test like it was done for the written test. Perhaps the gentleman is unaware of the fact that NAB never provided a passing criterion for the psychological test like it was done for the preliminary test. Further, psychology is ascertained on a case to case basis. You have to go through each case individually. How would this key have worked when there is no right answer to the questions that they asked? All the answers were as: strongly disagree, disagree, neutral, agree, strongly agree.

In the end, I would say that go ahead with the petition if you want to but bear in mind the repercussions it will bring about for all.
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Interviews for Punjab are expected to start from 1st November....
hmmm...well Allah g acha kre..and whats the real issue with NAB ordiance that is pinching opposition because as you mentioned in last post thats this current 1999 ordinance is affectin all politicians...so why opposition from opposition???
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I think @SA.Haider has gone made. Just have a look at his comments on previous pages. He is some times crying sometme laughing. These changing behaviours are signs of an abnormal man. He is extremist and misleading others and creating panic here. I will wonder if such an abnormal person is recommended by the psychologist fit for high profile job in NAB. He is from the Punjab and the guys from there have not been called yet, he cannot wait, and is showing desparation and disappointment as if he is out.
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I think @SA.Haider has gone made. Just have a look at his comments on previous pages. He is some times crying sometme laughing. These changing behaviours are signs of an abnormal man. He is extremist and misleading others and creating panic here. I will wonder if such an abnormal person is recommended by the psychologist fit for high profile job in NAB. He is from the Punjab and the guys from there have not been called yet, he cannot wait, and is showing desparation and disappointment as if he is out.
I wish you and all, those who reached at the pinancle and pivotal step of interview, a very heartiest greetings.

Mnaqi, dear when all of you finally selected and studying books at the covetous institute, hope you shall give us a fovour of mounting the list of candidates, the criteria of selection (if become known to you) and the interview exprerience of a DD, AD and JIO.

Again I thank you all for bearing my words with great patience.
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I wish you and all, those who reached at the pinancle and pivotal step of interview, a very heartiest greetings.

Mnaqi, dear when all of you finally selected and studying books at the covetous institute, hope you shall give us a fovour of mounting the list of candidates, the criteria of selection (if become known to you) and the interview exprerience of a DD, AD and JIO.

Again I thank you all for bearing my words with great patience.
@Ash. Thank you for the best wishes. Trust me I am very sorry that you have not made it to the interview. You are very intelligent man, you keep up your struggle. Honestly speaking, I am envious of your educational attainments.

I will surely share information with you, if our recruitment gets away with the tough phase of uncertainity from new accountability bill.

By the way, do you know Taj Nizamani? He is bank manager in faisal bank.
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