Injustice By NTS in shortlisting NAB candidates
 

Injustice By NTS in shortlisting NAB candidates:

There is no proper criterion set by NTS. They should have mentioned passing criteria or cut off before conducting the exam. Their cut off usually is 60 marks and above but this time around, they have made it 69 which is totally wrong. NTS has no proper guidelines/rules; they are just making money out of unemployed students.
I appeared for a job test of Area Manager (Utility) last week at Gulshan e Iqbal campus Ideal College, Karachi. There was no light; no fans and most of the students were made to sit in corridor in hot weather. There was a child having age of 5 to 6 years who was bringing drinking water for candidates and invigilators, which according to the Labour law is crime (Child Labour). Still, some people would praise NTS because they are too quick to post written results as we can’t wait for long period of time. If they can’t provide you with good testing centres then, they have no right to take money from unemployed/poor students. Their fee structure starts from Rs. 450 to Rs. 1000 depending upon the nature of jobs. There are no wall clocks in examination centres and their invigilators do not possess knowledge to answer the queries of students.
According to Holy Quran, Allah says: Verily! Allah will never change the condition of the people until they change it themselves (with state of Goodness).
So, it’s time we should take stand against such institutions which are exploiting poor unemployed students of the country. I appeal each and every student of this forum to please at least think once for those people who can’t afford such hefty examination fee amounts for one particular job such as Rs. 800 or Rs. 600. There are so many people who have been rejected for 2nd phase of Psychological test of NAB even after securing 60 and above marks, which was the criterion set by NTS in their last examinations. If they had to change this then they should have said it before conducting the exam as I think this is total Injustice to those students having 60 or above marks.

I totally Agree with you, there's no criteria no facilities only and only fees's... with no criteria... i don't understand what happened to those who submitted forms for marks correction !!!

I am also agree with you as I have 71 Marks for AD NAB from Punjab and still no call for next phase
this is not for the 1st time when i am not selected as in the corporals test i had 66 marks and not been selected while guys having only 50 marks are almost finish their training
I spent average of Rs 2500 per month on nts tests

We should bycott the tests conducted by NTS,
 

one of my friend having 59 marks in NAB JIO called for next phase

[QUOTE=killereyes;817614]one of my friend having 59 marks in NAB JIO called for next phase[/QUOTE]

my also is 59 in JIO could u tell me ur friend number plzz? dear contact me at my profile

[QUOTE=killereyes;817614]one of my friend having 59 marks in NAB JIO called for next phase[/QUOTE]
I have 66 for JIO but not called by NTS. Thanks NTS for not disturbing me.

1. As far as marks are concerned, the passing criteria depends on the people who score good. At 69 marks, sindh rural has almost 5 people for one seat. If they reduce 1 mark only, the ratio will increase to 7 per seat. Thus 60 will make 20 to 50 people for 1 seat. Thus they select only a limited number of people for 1 seat which can never be criticised.
2. Nabs last test passing marks were 65 for sindh rural.
3. Passing marks are dependant on the number of seats in each region. E.g 10 seats in sindh rural, they cant select more than 50 candidates for next phase. Thus the top 50 candidates get selected.
The same thing happens in other organizations like i.b where passing marks are above 92(last teat, yet never criticised)
4. As far as facilities are concerned, its right they are below par as they ought to be. But yet, comparing to spsc or fpsc, hardly any differnce can be found.
5. 1 good thing about nts is that they are not as corrupted as spsc, n much faster than fpsc.
6. Fees structure of other tests is same as others. What do u pay for any other job in spsc or fpsc? 17th scales job costs abt 600, css costs 2200, 16th scale costs 300.

At least NTS is quick and efficient unlike FPSC, each recruitment process of which takes a year to complete, wasting candidates' precious time. NTS is charging just a few hundred rupees more than FPSC, i.e. around Rs. 500 as compared to Rs. 300 charged by FPSC, not much of a difference in my opinion. Moreover NTS process is completely transparent, unlike FPSC, where only the names of short listed candidates are displayed, and the rest of the applicants never come to know how many marks they scored.

Much more transparent if not 100%...

NTS should be banned in Pakistan immediately.

Merit varries for different zone. for example i have been shortlisted from FATA for JIO-67. merit also vary on Gender base (Male/Female/Minority). for female and minorities it is slightly low

[QUOTE=Mohammad Ali;817697]NTS should be banned in Pakistan immediately.[/QUOTE]
Ya ryt...
Ban it n stregthen corruption...

Merit varies for different people because of provincial quotas, women quota and minority quota. Otherwise NTS selection is as transparent and fair as it could be.

NTS should be banned and a new fair organization should come into existence. It is a good excuse to say that the merit varies... Without the disclosure of merit policy, NTS is the most corrupt organization in Pakistan, in my view. Why doesn't NTS disclose the merit policy, if it is oh-such-a-fair organization? Many students who attained very great marks were not considered for reasons best known only to the "fair" organization. And by the way, why does not the fair organization tell what it did with the objection form? Are objections raised by all the candidates miraculously invalid or it was just another eyewash by the "fair" organization? Kindly defend your "fair" organization now, with logic and reasoning. I will await your answer(s).

[QUOTE=Mohammad Ali;817834]NTS should be banned and a new fair organization should come into existence. It is a good excuse to say that the merit varies... Without the disclosure of merit policy, NTS is the most corrupt organization in Pakistan, in my view. Why doesn't NTS disclose the merit policy, if it is oh-such-a-fair organization? Many students who attained very great marks were not considered for reasons best known only to the "fair" organization. And by the way, why does not the fair organization tell what it did with the objection form? Are objections raised by all the candidates miraculously invalid or it was just another eyewash by the "fair" organization? Kindly defend your "fair" organization now, with logic and reasoning. I will await your answer(s).[/QUOTE]
NTS is not a policy maker. it is an independent body which takes tests on the basis of directions of departments' policy. Genrelly, its a fair organization. Using NTS, departments save time. I think these are assumptions and allegations and there should be concrete evidence behind those, otherwise we shouldnt be blaming everyone as all the pakistan is not corrupt.

Mr. Usman Shaukat, my friend, I am not talking about the Economic Policy or Development Policy of Pakistan or Defence Policy, I inquired about the "merit" policy of NTS, its organizational merit policy based on what it carried out the selection of NAB tests. As you put "the department's policy", what exactly is that policy, a fair organization should never have a problem disclosing it, and why doesn't NTS do that? Why, because it is independent? Right. NTS' independence is basically what is so bothering, it is independent in a way that it is disregarding the merit itself. FPSC declares its merit policy, why doesn't NTS do the same? To say that the objection forms were all not entertained by NTS is not an "allegation", it has become a fact now because NTS has not considered any objection form at all (that is to say, of all the objections raised, miraculously none was valid), and "NTS has moved on to the next phase" like offering of the objections' addressal never ever even took place; it is a reality, not a fiction. I expect a logical, evidentiary defense of NTS anymore.

Totally Agree Man!!!!
I appeared in a NAB Test for the Post of Assistant Manager (IT)-BPS 16, way back in June 2012, Test was conducted By NTS... I scored [B]75[/B] marks in that test and still have a proof of it, as they did provide carbon copy of OMR sheets that time.... When I asked NTS about that they simply said 'we just conduct the test and forward the results to concerned Organization, I waited, waited, and waited But wait goes long and long and then simply PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

[QUOTE=Mohammad Ali;817840]Mr. Usman Shaukat, my friend, I am not talking about the Economic Policy or Development Policy of Pakistan or Defence Policy, I inquired about the "merit" policy of NTS, its organizational merit policy based on what it carried out the selection of NAB tests. As you put "the department's policy", what exactly is that policy, a fair organization should never have a problem disclosing it, and why doesn't NTS do that? Why, because it is independent? Right. NTS' independence is basically what is so bothering, it is independent in a way that it is disregarding the merit itself. FPSC declares its merit policy, why doesn't NTS do the same? To say that the objection forms were all not entertained by NTS is not an "allegation", it has become a fact now because NTS has not considered any objection form at all (that is to say, of all the objections raised, miraculously none was valid), and "NTS has moved on to the next phase" like offering of the objections' addressal never ever even took place; it is a reality, not a fiction. I expect a logical, evidentiary defense of NTS anymore.[/QUOTE]
Is there any solid reason that Nts should be banned?
Bhai test ppsc lay fpsc lay ya Nts jis kay marks kam hain wo reject hai.
competition kay exam hain top merit walay qualify kartay hain.
Nts ko ban is liay hona chaheay kay wo
Result ek week main announce kar daita hai
ya is liay kay ap ko carbon copy provide ki jati hai ap ki tasali kay liay.
Nts ko ban karwany sy behtar hai ap thori ziada mehnat karo InshAllah qualify kar jao gay.
Quota system tou puray pakistan main hai.agar sindh ya Balochistan ka merit kam hai tou Nts kia karay.
Improvement ki zarorat tou har organization ko hoti hai aur pakistan ki tou almost har organization ko zarorat hai.

[QUOTE=mdanishkhan;817855]Totally Agree Man!!!!
I appeared in a NAB Test for the Post of Assistant Manager (IT)-BPS 16, way back in June 2012, Test was conducted By NTS... I scored [B]75[/B] marks in that test and still have a proof of it, as they did provide carbon copy of OMR sheets that time.... When I asked NTS about that they simply said 'we just conduct the test and forward the results to concerned Organization, I waited, waited, and waited But wait goes long and long and then simply PAKISTAN ZINDABAD[/QUOTE]
Last test score was 65 in sindh.
All above 65 passed the test. Many failed in psychological test.
I dnt knw the cut off of ur region so cant claim on that.
As far as objections are concerned, a friend of mine got his 1 mark increased... he had scored 84 as per carbon copy but only 83 in nts result.
Result was updated after his objection...

N css ki knowledge to i presume sb ko ho gi na???
Punjab me 700 marks le kr b banda postal group k lye tarasta he jb k sindh me 611 pr dmg mil jata he. So ban fpsc as well...
I.b ki last test me 92 passing score tha. Us c phle wale me 87 i guess. So ban i.b as well...
Fpsc conducted senior auditor test about a year back. Last week result aya. I passed the test but dnt knw my score n that of all others in passing list. I dnt even knw k kitne log merit pr hn n kitne source wale. Spsc ko quote krna bekar he yhan pr bcs test c pehle e demands aana strt ho jate hn k itne lakh me test pass, itne ka interview...
Test hone c phle 90% seats auction ho chuki hte hn...
To sum up, i hv already mentioned that merit varies region to region. Agr phle e passing ratio decide kr do ge to problem ho jae gi...
20 seats pr agr 2000 bande aa gae to organization wont b able to interview them... thus the nts in instructed to select top 100(5 per seat) n take them to stage 2.
Its totally practical n transparent procedure. it is fast n eleminates corruption.

[QUOTE=isshaikh;817924]Last test score was 65 in sindh.
All above 65 passed the test. Many failed in psychological test.
I dnt knw the cut off of ur region so cant claim on that.
As far as objections are concerned, a friend of mine got his 1 mark increased... he had scored 84 as per carbon copy but only 83 in nts result.
Result was updated after his objection...[/QUOTE]

Well Mate!!! Are you talking about NAB Recruitment of June 2012??? I am Sindh (Rural) with Domicile, they even didn't consider my case for further proceedings... I am not about to BAN NTS but there is room, a lot of room, to improvement....

[QUOTE=mdanishkhan;817946]Well Mate!!! Are you talking about NAB Recruitment of June 2012??? I am Sindh (Rural) with Domicile, they even didn't consider my case for further proceedings... I am not about to BAN NTS but there is room, a lot of room, to improvement....[/QUOTE]
No one is perfect. It is right that there is a huge room for improvement.....