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could please tell me wat is the age limit for the graduate short course in the pakistan army?
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28 years. It isn't graduation, mostly masters and post masters...
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plz some 1 help me i am called at issb kohat i applied 4 ssc in navy . if girls hv 2 perform physcial exercises?/

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I have cleared ISSB for PAF Non-GDP course
U wrote that u applied for ssc(short service commission)Navy.
Firstly I want to know for which branch have u applied for??

On reporting day:

• Photo session: ur snap will be made,so keep ur face smiling when photo will be taken.this wud surely a gud image on board that u r not depressed,tensed.and u can adjust in new environment very soon.be cool and calm
• U have to fill forms; u have to fill these forms very carefully. 01 copy of this form will go to psychologist,01 to GTO,01 to interviewing officer(dy.pres)..on these forms ur 50% personality would be judged by them..
• If u have any desease which dr. don’t know abt it..only u know e.g. u have problem in sleeping at nite,depression,anxity..then never write it on ur form..
• U have to write merits&demerits..so make its practice now,ur parents,bro,sis,friends can help u in this regard..every human being is full of err;but never write ur demerit like that
u tell a lie etc..
write that demerit which cannot harmful to other people…e.g.i m miser girl now u can c that it z not harmful to anyone..but if a person is lier then he/she is not reliable.
As far as merits is concerned..u can write that u r cooperative,help poors,brave etc…I don’t know ur merits&demerits..so be pure and truthful
07merits&03-04demerits are enough..u can write more or less..its up to u!
• U have to write unforgettable incident/unforgettable accident/unforgettable moment/Most pleasant moment of ur life/most depressed moment of life..
Anyone of the above mentioned incident will be given to u&u have to write it..normally it takes 01 page long
In Unforgettable incident/moment/pleasant event: I will suggest u to write ur achievement...any achievement in sports/academic/quiz programme/debate/naat khuani…try ur best to highlight ur merits…like hardworking,physical fitness,intelligence,sharpness,confidence,bravenes s,helping poor people,co-operation with ur colleague etc..make its practice now..

On Ist Day

• Intelligence test verbal/non-verbal/mechanical
Same alike ur preliminary test at recruitment centre..
To avoid screen out u must take a keen look on serial no’s..
e.g if u left question no.41 and now u r attempting q.no.42 then u must write ur answer in 42 despite of 41..otherwise it is v.easy..so,.make a gud practice

Normally 14 qualities will be checked In ISSB TESTS
Sentence completion test:

(in Urdu)26 sentence----06min
(In English) 26 sentence----06min
e.g.dushman to dekhtay hi—Us nay attack ker dia---------------------------
He/She fears –to ALLAH--------------------
Saanp ko dekhtay hi –usnay maar dala-----------------
our NAVY is ----brave--------
aaj kel ki larkian –mehnti---------hain
A gorden is –full of flowers------------------
Mojoda door mein –bari taraqi hue hai--------------

Suggestions: make a gud practice.
To improve ur speed.
Be positive in sentences.
Don’t complete a sentence which is meaning less.
Always make that sentence which is full of gud qualities
Never pause/spare any sentence in start/middile .
U can pause/spare any last 24/25/26sentences if time doesn’t permit u.
When voice came stop writing. U shuld stop ur pen whether u r writing ur 24 sentence and u write it only 01 word.just stop..it is very important if u did not do that thing pshychologist simply note ur chest no&even u did not intimated by them.
Simply this mistakes will lead u to rejection.
So be honest.

Word Association Test:

For only10sec,u have to see a word and write it within 10sec.so be fast.
100 words will be shown on projectors. a sound will be come after 10min and then next word will be come.
e.g.
High: Keep the flag high.
Evil: Nip the evil In the bud
Father: My father is honest person.
Attack:Attack is best offence.
Love: I love my country.

Suggestions:

In WAT leadership qualities are checked patriotism,braveness,initiative,sacrifice,intellig ence,attachment wid religion,courage,truthfulness,honesty ETC
Make a gud practice.
To improve ur speed.
Be positive in sentences.


Story Writing:

Picture will be seen For 30sec

U have to Complete it within 03 min,30sec

U can make it in positive sense. complete it with a achieving end.
01 on that topic which is related to ur branch for which u applied for.
This will show Ur attitude.
01 on science&technology.
01 on ur ambitions.
Minutely look also situation of the picture&make story on it

Second Day:

GTO Tasks:

U will be divided into groups normally group consists of 08-09people.
1. indoor tasks
Group Discussion:
this is v.important,u can impress ur GTO&group members with this very ist task..
Sugguestions:
i) practice in front of mirror and speak loudly.
ii)read newspapers both urdu&English for current affairs,forgein affairs. E.g energy crisis/sugar crisis,loadshedding, UN Role for peace,indo-pak relationship,khud-kush hamlon k hawamil aur isko is tara roka ja sakta hai, social issues dowry,basant,child labor,smuggling etc.
iii)ist listen ur topic carefully what u have to discuss.if u have enough knowledge on that topic then take initiative.if u don’t know then listen 02-03 of ur fellows then present it in ur own words.Try ur best not to repeat the words of ur fellows.
iv)speak with solid arguments
v)never repeat sentence
vi)When u speak/listen to ur fellow.Never look to GTO.
vii)when u speak try to look each and every one of ur group member.specailly who is sitting with very next to u…some people sometimes miss 02 person..this is not a gud aptitude during discussion

Group Plannning:


Open ur ears when u r hearing briefing abt that model.
Then make a plan which should very innovative.and workable.
Sugguestions:
Calculate time that u can achieve ur goal within that time. Memorize briefing of GTO.

2.Outdoor Tasks:

Command tast
Memorize GTO briefing.
Avoid fowls
Don’t look to GTO after ur task started.
Ur briefing is in loud voice&according to GTO instructions
Away from out of bound area.
Sacrifice for others.if space is very less.then take ur member on ur shoes and don’t feel any pain.
If u or ur any member make a fowl. Then u shud tell her to clear again bcoz u have committed the mistake.
Play ur role as leader/commander when u become commander
When u become subordinate to ur group member then give some suggestion which may be helpful in ur task.

Individual task:


09 obstacles within 02 min

When GTO briefing u abt that obstacles.make ur plan that which will u do ist,sec,3rd,fourth &so on …………………….

Tyre: simply grip its rope from ur both hands,put ur legs ist into the tyre&at last take ur head out..
Monkey brige: GTO check here ur height fear..when u do that task..never look to earth.just take a look on rite and do it.
Tarzan Swing: grip rope from most of above of ur hands access,then start to swing.when ur feet come on ur goal(takhta)..immediately left ur rope..if u did not leave ur rope on other end..it will again lift u to back..simply u will waste u time to hanging with it.
Zig Zag:run with speed and don’t become slow after last zag..jump it in standing position carefully/// jump on ur toe(it is v.imp that u shud not sit when u r jumping )
High Jump:run with speed and spirit and lift ur both legs..if bamboo is down..again jump up to clear it..never cheat
Long Jump:don’t slow
Ditch: it is v.imp bcoz from this task ur depth fear will be checked.so run fast and when u come near to ditch,..never look into the ditch&never slow when u come near to ditch..just see ur crossing point.
Crossing bridge:do it in running position.if u r slow then it will fell u down.in case if u r fall down…immediately get u with zeal&passion..dont feel ur pain..dont catch ur knee or wounded leg or elbow..bear it for ur future.
Rope: Try ur best if u can,if u cant in twice or thrice try,jut leve it..
No problem..
Make ur stamina,physical fitness,don’t cheat to GTO.

03 other tasks:
Half group task/final group task etc..u can take their detail from any dogar/bhatti book..
Main purpose again to look ur qualities.sometimes GTO wears black glasses.some1 thinks that he is not looking to him/her&try to douche/bluff him.That will lead to rejection.

Self Assesment Form:

After completing all tasks.u have to rate ur all members including u..
I will suggest u if u feel that u have perfomed v.well.even then rate ur self on second position.

Interview:

1.wear neat and clean dress..
2.dont use a big quantity of jewel/makeup
3.prepare mathematical questions.
e.g. if price of dozen eggs are Rs.26 what is the price of 03 eggs?
What is 05 % of 200. etc.
4. General knowledge
5.All Ranks of Army/Navy Airforce especially equivalence.
U should know that Lt.Commander is equivalent to Major in Army etc
6.For checking ur emotional stability.Dy.President may ask u little bit questions
E.G. Have u any boy friend?
So,don’t become irritate or become angry to reply these sort of questions..
7.regarding Islam.
8.u should know all abdoaz/ships of Pakistan Navy.
9.look into the eyes of Interviewing officer.it means u r confident.
10.dont take purse with u
11.dont roll ur eyes/cut ur tongue/fingers bending/lips sucking/lifting of feet.all these are the signs of tensions
12 fully use ur chair..
13.dont be in defending position(means crossing of hand on each other)
14.if u don’t know answer of the question. simply say sorry
15. if u did not secured in gud grade then definitely question will be asked,so make a solid reason.
16.Why u want to join Pakistan NAVY?
17.If u r not selected then what will u do?
18.dont speak against Government/Armed Forces if he asks something about it(this policy should also be followed in group discussion ).work with diplomacy.
19.if he enquires abt ur performance in GTO tasks/pshyclogical tasks..never say him that fallan fallan are very bad or u perform poorly even ur task is not gud though…
Just say I have performed well In all tests,I m fully confident.

Note:
Pray regularly&recite the Quran daily
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In inverview :
Introduction
family backround
academic qualification z is also asked..
so,prepare it at advance in fluent english...
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in interview the biodata forms filled are verified by asking questions from them quickly

ur family background
mathematical calculations,dome questions from physics
G.K especially capitals
ur habits.interests
ur motivation towards the job
ur confidence

english does not count a lot..you have to be simple and represent yourself as you are..reply in english if question is asked in english and in urdu if asked in urdu.
in psychological tests u have to show your motivation with the help of sentences that u are asked to write on given words.your stories should reflect your motivation.do write one or two stories mentioning the forces.for instance,ahmed was motivated to join army or navy or whatever..like that..
positive statements

like
helping
patriotism
confidence
hardwork
sincerity towards work and above all truth.

eye to eye contact with the interviewer.do not get confused because it will show ur negetivity in pschological plus do not over react.over confident people mostly get rejected.
in group discussion..i will suggest not to start first.go 2nd or 3rd..if sum1 is not willing to start then u can start.give others chance to talk..if ur decision regarding the discussion(for or against) changes then u can also change it..as i said to the GTO that i agree with both

in group task

be confident, n if the GTO asks who is willing to explain the solution of this model.u should raise your hands.

i got recommended for Ladies intergrated course 4

it was the 1st ISSB for girls induction in army.physical tasks were not included.it was 2 days ISSB.now i do not know whether physical tasks are included or not.

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1st day: write true
2nd day: discuss openly ; brave; positive; control your sentiments
3rd day: remain cool calm as final day
4thday: might be reinterviwed as decisive phase
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I was serious about joining the Army and had studied from a Cadet college so it wasn't that difficult getting through but accidentally broke my leg playing football which made me unfit for the army and I still curse that day.
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i was also extremely serious for joining army but i got deferred for 6 months because of perforated eardrum n i was advised for surgery ..now after surgery m going to appear in CSS 2010.
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i still remember those 4 days of my life.i did not considered them much important at that time but now i really. luckly i was one of those 3 guys of my issb batch who have been selected and also 1 of those lucky 2 (my issb batch) who got selected for training after finalization of merit lists.


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