Comparison of army officer vs air force officer

[Ali1984]

AOA....Dear members what do you think about the comparison of an Army officer and Air force officer in Pakistan? People normally prefer Air Force to join if i am not mistaken but the unconstitutional authority of Army prevails in Pakistan upto a great extent.People know more about the Army Ranks but less aware of Air Force Officer,s Designations.Army Officers can interfere in the civilian matters like put pressure on law enforcing agencies including police etc to have their work done irrespective of its legality while in case of Air Force officers i think they donot posses such authority. An Officer of AIR Force told me all that, so I opened this discussion to you friends about your views regarding the topic/////

[sehrish--]

Both Departments are good but the matter is that people makes their department good or bad..So that because of some people army officers impression is bad but not for the whole army We love our army They are our soldiers and protects the country border.

Solute to Pakistan Army n Pakistan Air Force !!!

[star5]

Originally Posted by Ali1984

AOA....Dear members what do you think about the comparison of an Army officer and Air force officer in Pakistan? People normally prefer Air Force to join if i am not mistaken but the unconstitutional authority of Army prevails in Pakistan upto a great extent.People know more about the Army Ranks but less aware of Air Force Officer,s Designations. Army Officers can interfere in the civilian matters like put pressure on law enforcing agencies including police etc to have their work done irrespective of its legality while in case of Air Force officers i think they donot posses such authority. An Officer of AIR Force told me all that, so I opened this discussion to you friends about your views regarding the topic/////

Dear Ali, Army Officers enjoys more authority mostly in two cases: First, when an officers climbs to very senior position like General in Army, in that case Army General enjoys clear edge over its counterparts in other two forces, but it does not means that he can ruin other two forces two, three or four stars officers but they all work with close coordination. Second, when Army officers are given frequently important positions than AirForce and Navy officers in civilian matters mostly when Marshal Law is imposed or even in democratic Govt. Except for the said two positions there is only yes sir to the seniors in all three armed forces and it is highly unlikely that there is any difference among officers in all three defence forces, all officers enjoy same authority in a sense that No civilian authority can dare to touch any of the forces officers, because all forces having there own laws and work with high level of coordination and protects their officers jointly.

Dear Ali, please remember, whether it is Army, Airforce or Navy, all are highly disciplined. It is not the case that in every tiny matter they opt for illegal way or force civilian authority for illegal way. Actually our civilian law enforcement agencies are so corrupt that when any armed forces officer approaches them they do their work without any hesitation and it looks like an illegal work to us

[dms664]

Keeping in view the current war on terror, life of an air force officer is good at junior level.

[Ali1984]

Originally Posted by sehrish--

Both Departments are good but the matter is that people makes their department good or bad..So that because of some people army officers impression is bad but not for the whole army We love our army They are our soldiers and protects the country border.

Solute to Pakistan Army n Pakistan Air Force !!!

Dear mate you are right in your own thoughts...but i required a comparative analysis of both officers...as all are aware that both are part of our military forces.I love to say that both departments are best among the best but this discussion was for the officers comparison only.In case of CSS i think only army officers are allowed to have 10% quota if i am not wrong. I wanted that type of replying posts from the forum members. One fact is certain that we love our country and its prestigious guards.

[Ali1984]

Originally Posted by star5

Dear Ali, Army Officers enjoys more authority mostly in two cases: First, when an officers climbs to very senior position like General in Army, in that case Army General enjoys clear edge over its counterparts in other two forces, but it does not means that he can ruin other two forces two, three or four stars officers but they all work with close coordination. Second, when Army officers are given frequently important positions than AirForce and Navy officers in civilian matters mostly when Marshal Law is imposed or even in democratic Govt. Except for the said two positions there is only yes sir to the seniors in all three armed forces and it is highly unlikely that there is any difference among officers in all three defence forces, all officers enjoy same authority in a sense that No civilian authority can dare to touch any of the forces officers, because all forces having there own laws and work with high level of coordination and protects their officers jointly.

Dear Ali, please remember, whether it is Army, Airforce or Navy, all are highly disciplined. It is not the case that in every tiny matter they opt for illegal way or force civilian authority for illegal way. Actually our civilian law enforcement agencies are so corrupt that when any armed forces officer approaches them they do their work without any hesitation and it looks like an illegal work to us

Yes Dear.. I agree with you but in the end you narrated the fact that Military officers do their work easily through law enforcement agencies which seems illegal but are legal. i contradict with this statement as i have witnessed so many situations where a criminal charged of 302 FIR was sheltered by Army Officers and Law enforcing agencies were not able to arrest him even they afraid of having any comments about that situation. It is right that some people make an institution,s image a nightmare but that also shows its utmost power to accomplish any objective.

[afzi]

Dear Ali its not like that army officers getting wrong favors. i think army is the only institution where high level of check and balance is maintained. Army does not forgive any of its officer who has been found guilty or corrupt. we have seen many examples in army (officers) going home irrespective of ranks ( what to talk about Capt or Maj even brig and Gen have gone their home). All are not equal.
As for as comparison is concerned army has close lesion with civilian officers due to nature of their duty like Internal Security duties, floods, other disastrous etc. That's why they know much more cleverness and attitude of civilians, this is the reason that civilians take care more army officers than the others.

[Muhammad T S Awan]

AoA,

This post crossed by my eyes and something compelled me to reply it, though i dont want to enter into any sort of idiotic discussion comparing Armed Forces with Civil Institutions or even between different flanks of Armed Forces or different occupational/service groups of civil services, nevertheless, this post wants some brief replies;

Originally Posted by afzi

Dear Ali its not like that army officers getting wrong favors. i think army is the only institution where high level of check and balance is maintained. Army does not forgive any of its officer who has been found guilty or corrupt. we have seen many examples in army (officers) going home irrespective of ranks ( what to talk about Capt or Maj even brig and Gen have gone their home). All are not equal.

Yes army is the only institution with lot of checks but we also use to come across certain examples, the most recent case of Asghar Khan, done at the instructions of top brass of the institution having maximum checks and balances. ... The army officers are certainly not getting any wrong favours, because it is their responsibilities to work for the nation as they get pays out of the taxes paid by the common people. And yes they have to be paid handsomely even in instances a Lt and Captain has to be given good salaries better thn those of counterparts in civil services because they have to carry out utmost duties in harsh circumstances. The allied facilities like good houses, schooling, hospitals, post retirement facilities etc should also be provided to them because they put their lifes at the stake for the security and integrity of the nation. People sleep and they remain awake at border.

Originally Posted by afzi

As for as comparison is concerned army has close lesion with civilian officers due to nature of their duty like Internal Security duties, floods, other disastrous etc. That's why they know much more cleverness and attitude of civilians, this is the reason that civilians take care more army officers than the others.

Excuse me, I tend to presume by this paragraph that civilians/civil officers are clever and try to dodge the other armed forces but because of close liaison with army officers due to armys deployment for international security, floods etc, they cannot dodge them and as such the civilians take care more for army officers thn others. I wish and i hope that my presumption is wrong! But at the same time I am quite aware of the fact that this is hope against hope.

Would you like to use a bit flexible phrases in your future posts and comments (at least while writing/typing), which may not harm the sentiments of any civilian reading it. I am just a common nobody civilian, but it really hurt to have such comments.

[romeo tango]

Aoa. Hope you all fine and enjoying your life.
quite interesting thread indeed ....
As i am serving in Pakistan Air force and i have army back ground as my father , grand father and all of my five uncles are/were in army
Officers from both organizations have same authorities and perks. the only difference is in the deployment ....as air force is not deployed in hard areas (due to war startegy) like rattu , jag lot, Astor, etc where army is deployed ,so they enjoy better life .. but if we come to operations both the forces have their own role and task and they are best at it.
Salary is all most same as per rank and service period. if we get flying allowance in PAF so they get hard area allowance which makes no difference in Pay
Mess life and family accommodation have some difference because of the strength. Army have a large number of officers as compared to PAF so accommodation is problem in army in some cases .....

[Amir Shafique]

In terms of perks and facilities there is no major difference.

In terms of nature of job Airforce is better.

In terms of nuisance value Army wins hands down.