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Complain about descriptive marks
Dear friends,
Those candidates who have good numbers in screening test; who have attempted the written papers well; but they have been failed in written part, please make complains on below emails. The larger the participation, the more chances for success. I think many candidates have been failed due to improper assesment by nts employee. complaintcell@mod.gov.pk http://www.mohtasib.gov.pk Contact numbers are also present on mod website and ombudsman website. We can not expect fair treatment from nts, because of their refusal to paper rechecking. |
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My screening marks were good enough to qualify for descriptive stage and in my opinion, I also did well in descriptive exam. And I failed in descriptive test. I do not have any reason to suspect the NTS intentions let alone any solid proof. There are many on this forum who succeeded to qualify for next stage which in itself negate the idea of any systematic deception on part of NTS. Therefore, I strongly urge to failures like me to stop whining and try harder next time.
Remember, It was the same assessment team (NTS) who passed all descriptive test qualifiers. If someone insist that the NTS was unfair to him/her in descriptive then by the same logic NTS was also unfair to let him/her pass in screening test. |
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Reasons to suspect NTS: - their history of incompetence - Court judgements against them - the farce that were the screening test MCQ's - their non-transparency in not revealing markers credentials/marking scheme - they are a private money grubbing organisation - i can go on... And screening is not the same as descriptive. MCQ's have a right/wrong answer, no leeway. Descriptive is largely judgement based, so heavily depends on the person marking it. I for one will follow arif comsian in sending these concerns to MOD.
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I simply put myself aside of all this mess because of dozens of emails to me since last night probably from those qualified test, cursing me and left no stone unturned in proving that marking was perfect. So ok mod ko wo log mubarak hon. Still just for others who are complaining, i sent a request to MOD, ISPR . Rest lies everything on mod if they hear or not.
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i called nts , marking was done by nts officials. i sent an email to secretary MOD lets see what happens and people who qualified should not feel insecure if they performed well in the paper. we are fighting for our right and we know damn well what we deserve kindly keep ur judgmental opinion to urself.
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on my way :p
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Letters/emails sent to:
MOD - complaintcell@mod.gov.pk Wafaqi Mohtasib - online form and ombuds.munawarsajjad@gmail.com; ombuds.adnanjadoon@gmail.com ISPR (you never know!) - GenAsifGhafoor@ispr.gov.pk; so@ispr.gov.pk; mareeakhaled@gmail.com (Editor Hilal) Here is what I wrote, I hope it sums up our concerns: Dear Sirs, Assalamualaykum, I hope you are well. I am writing to express my grave concerns on the conduct of the 2017 AD-MOD application process by the National Testing Service (NTS), which I have participated in until the second stage. May I draw your attention to several facts here: Firstly, the NTS is a highly non-transparent organization, despite their claims. And the AD-MOD application process was no different. Just to state a few examples of non-transparency, there was no marking scheme for the descriptive stage of the exam, and no information given on the examiners qualifications. For a ‘national testing service’ examining candidates for nationally important posts and which should be the epitome of educational standards the NTS falls woefully and perhaps even criminally short. The point on the examiners qualifications is very important as, if you see the content of the screening stage of the test, the paper was full of grammatical and spelling mistakes throughout and many of the questions were incomprehensible. This, from a national testing service! And if their questions are so inadequate, how can candidates, in the absence of any information from the NTS, trust their markers and marking process? Also, in the absence of transparency, how can the state institutions trust that the NTS, a private profit-oriented company, is working in the interest of the state? After all, considering history in Pakistan is it that incredulous to believe that the NTS has been infiltrated by anti-state elements, perhaps working on foreign direction? And in this case, reviewing candidates for our premier intelligence agency! Further, NTS is refusing to release the marked exam papers, which could either clarify or negate these valid concerns. Many of us deserving candidates have thus been forced to seek remedy from the MOD, ISPR & the Wafaqi Mohatsib’s office. Secondly, the NTS has a long recorded history of incompetence, maladministration and outright corruption. Apart from the many court judgements against them (with the LHC even declaring them illegal), the individual claims of corruption and maladministration which have been proven in court, and the persistent allegations of corruption, this application procedure alone has brought up glaring examples of the NTS’s incompetence and corruption. For example, the screening test mentioned above, which by any standard applied would be called a farce. Further, I have with my own eyes seen a screening test result which read ‘128.45’! How does one get ‘.45’ of a multiple choice question (MCQ) right? [some personal stuff] All this brings us to the important point of the descriptive test (the second stage of the application process). I and many other deserving candidates who have advanced degrees from prestigious institutions have been failed whilst those who cannot even string together a coherent sentence in English or Urdu have been made to pass. Speaking of myself, [some personal stuff]... Further, the questions in the descriptive test were from my field of study. There is no way that I could have gotten 66/200 for them. I know what I am capable of, and my answers in the exam were of the highest quality and substance, and would have by any reasonable standards of marking have attained at least 70%. But one cannot expect those who can’t even put a valid multiple choice paper together to do justice with marking essay questions which show innovation, academic discussion and critical thought, and which are not simple the run-of-the-mill pre-rehearsed general outlines given by the vast majority of candidates. The NTS has made a mockery of this application process and has filtered out many deserving candidates; many others besides myself who will also send these concerns to the relevant departments, including yourself. Many of us do not wish to take this matter to the courts as we are concerned that it may damage the good reputation of the MOD and the ISI. I have [personal stuff]..., only to fall victim to incompetence, corruption and a highly dubious process. To do such a thing is to deprive this great country of highly deserving candidates. Does the ISI/MOD want candidates who are qualified, adaptable and innovative, or those who conform to the low education standards of NTS markers? Is this what our people deserve? Concluding, I strongly recommend that the whole application process be suspended, a thorough investigation carried out, and if these allegation are found to be true the process should be annulled, with charges brought against the NTS. Then the MOD should carry out its own application and testing procedure. The concerns mentioned here cannot be dismissed easily, they are valid, have grounds and are backed by evidence. If this cannot be done, at least the descriptive papers should be remarked by qualified examiners from reputable universities. I have no doubts that if this is done the results will be very different indeed. Thank you for understanding, and I am confident that you will take the appropriate action here in the interests of the state.
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